Having to go back and forth to a summoning bell just to do inventory with retainers is very annoying...they should just add a system to where we can just manage inventory without going to summoner bells. And only make it required for putting things for sale in the MB. And also add a search bar for inventory because scrolling through trying to find one item in all my mess is very time consuming. At least the “sort” button helps a bit.
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03-19-2020, 01:41 AMRayddenPrimeRetainer inventory
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03-19-2020, 02:02 AMMomomiMomi
Yeah, that's not going to happen. It's designed the way it is for a reason, not just to be annoying.
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03-19-2020, 02:03 AMDivinemights
No, they should not.
If you thinks they should, mobile MMO is probalby better for you -
03-19-2020, 02:06 AMBackdrifter
I'd be happy if they'd just combine the bell and the market board. It would be nice to switch from my items being sold at the bell directly how such an item is being sold in the market.
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03-19-2020, 02:08 AMRayddenPrimeWell how come? Where would be the disadvantage in being able to summon ur retainer on the spot or maybe have something where you can get ur item delivered to u a bad idea? And having a search bar on there too..how is that a bad idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemights
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03-19-2020, 02:11 AMYatoShishi
/isearch "item name" is ur friend
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03-19-2020, 02:13 AMEldevern
Retainers are fine has they are. What you ask is to have some kind of inventory bank as it is in many MMO and that's so boring. And not really more comfortable since MB is independant from the inventory bank. Somehow, FF system is more comfortable.
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03-19-2020, 02:25 AMDivinemightsIt is bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by RayddenPrime
S/E should not recreate the same dumb mistake made by Blizzard with their mobile guild bank and laughable Garrison
Retainer Bell / AH is what keeps the game looks alive.
If everyone is comfortable with a mobile Retainer bell the cities will be ghost town.
Blizzard did a lot of thing for the sake of player convenience but many of these are directly and indirectly causing MMORPG dying as a genre -
03-19-2020, 02:47 AMAvidria
The inventory system in this game is one of the worst I've had to deal with in my time playing MMOs. I've played games where the amount of space you get is laughable, but even constantly having to clear out my bags was less irritating than clicking through 15 menus and searching through four different bags every time I want to grab something that isn't in my own bag. It's awful.
Would love an actual search bar in the bags... /Isearch only gets you so far when your eyesight is as godawful as mine. I have to squint and mouse over the icons to find crap half the time, even knowing which tab it's in. If there's a way to make the bag bigger I'd love to hear it but a search bar would definitely make my life easier.
Idk about mobile retainer access, not that I'd mind it really, but I'd definitely like to see some general improvements to how clunky and inefficient the retainer system is. At least give me an option to skip all of their dialogue and either make yes the default answer for exiting the menus, or get rid of that prompt entirely. :/ -
03-19-2020, 03:00 AMEldevernWe often read that but the genre is not dying. WoW, FFXIV, TESO, BDO, are working rather fine (We can still consider Rift, Neverwinter, Aion, Blade and Soul and a few others Marvel, SWTOR...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemights
The real problem is there are too many MMORPG released or to be released (more than 100) and all the WoW killers or the "old way" MMOs are big fails, because they are all medieval, all ArcheAge-like and poorly implemented with ridiculous graphics (especially to compare to BDO). MMOFPS, BattleRoyal or Hack'n'Slash have the same problem. They all want to be the CoD killer, the LoL killer, the Fornite killer etc.
Wildstar wanted to be more hardcore, more "the old way" but they failed because the translation in other languages came too late, building a community was not very easy and both the UI and the inventory stuff/system were lacking of clarity. -
03-19-2020, 03:09 AMMoonlite
I am a negative on the mobile retainer. But I would like retainer to vanish. They are a left over to some degree from 1.0 and not a good one. I would just like to see one interface for inventory like the FC chest. They can still charge for extra space, lets not kill the cash cow. Next rebuild the MB so it is separate and you post at the board or an NPC standing right next to it. Again if SE wants to tie extra slots to increase sub so be it. The player base likes giving them more money, lets just make it better. Finally move ventures into squadrons making squadrons more valuable. Or just keep retainer bell and we just use them for ventures.
Anyone who thinks the system is good now. Doesn't have to check 60 to 120 MB listings to see how the price has moved and reprice. Or balanced inventory over a two retainers. Is this a pressing matter, not really. Would I like to see a quality of life improvement over NG+, yes please. -
03-19-2020, 03:40 AMMansionTrying to sort stuff between inventory, retainers and saddle bag is just awful yeah. Without mobile bells, if I could right click on any item and "sent to XXX inventory" that's be a pretty good step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlite
They could also review items actually. There is so much stuff next to useless as the years go by, which could do with consolidation. Trial / raid tokens should not eat an intetory slot. Fishing baits too. Dye should be a system on its own. If dungeons are going to throw up stuff in my face, then the Arsenal should have either more space or another way of sorting it... I'd like improvement in this regard, rethinking how things could get streamlined to relieve a bit of space. -
03-19-2020, 03:48 AMGeminaNo can do. We interact with retainers for more reasons than just the marketboard. However, they could allow us to access our retainers from the MB. We just wouldn't have full access. Very similar to how mannequins are set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backdrifter
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03-19-2020, 04:08 AMMoonliteQuote:
Originally Posted by Mansion
All stuff that has been brought up before SE refuses to lower inventory bloat. They actually design around it and then when questioned it is always some sort of limitation. Beast tribe tokens used to sit in inventory. So instead of just making one token and making the items be rep based they were worried that someone would be able to buy a whole bunch of items from one tribe. No beast tribe item is so valuable they have to worry, and no the mats for ixal and moogles was just a way to slow down people from getting some gear. They also refuse to allow old mats to die meaning people would only have to hold new mats for one expansion. Or even just move most of that bloat to a simple vendor. Look at beetle glue made a big come back.
We should also expect some sort of defense of this awesome system in a few posts. -
03-19-2020, 04:23 AMBackdrifterYes, can do. And please do. I'm fine with them being seperate as long as I had the option to link to the market board from my items being sold to see how my current up-for-sale item is priced compared to what's currently being offered and what it has gone for in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemina
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03-19-2020, 07:16 AMRayddenPrimeWhich is why i said except for putting things on market board for sale. If that was really a reason than maybe they should remove athernets so the streets will also be more alive ..not just specific areas .that way everyone can just and have to walk around no teleport. Filling the streets and areas running around...making the world even more alive! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Divinemights
They really don’t wanna make it convenient to where on top of all that we have to pay real money every month ...to get extra retainers... -
03-19-2020, 07:18 AMKleeyaThere is some people who think the contrary, that the mmorpg genre did become successful beyond all expectations, and continue to be so : https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comm...tead_of_dying/ The reasoning being that mmorpgs aren't like all the others types of games which you finish in a few hours before hoping on to the next one. Mmorpgs are supposed to be persistent worlds in which to live in, with nether ending updates, and if all the big ones continue to be successful to keep their players along, of course all new mmos will keep failing, leaving a false impression of "mmorpgs are dead".Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemights
As for what the op is talking about, there is limitations when it comes to handle the items datas so that the servers can keep working correctly. For example SE already said that's why we can access the glamour dresser only in inn and squadron rooms, and not somewhere else like in every houses with a glamour dresser housing item. There would probably be huge problems of the same sort with giving players access to their retainers from somewhere else than the bells. -
03-19-2020, 12:57 PMKraniel
Sure, adding a search bar on the retainer inventory could be a plus.
However i disagree with the portable retainer idea. I think it would break the immersion even more. -
03-19-2020, 02:57 PMNezeriusMaybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking for, but you can already check the price of an item you're wanting to put on the market board. Click on the button in the top right corner of the window that's used to set the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backdrifter
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03-20-2020, 01:14 AMBackdrifter
I want to be able to do this from my retainer. If I need to adjust the price of an item that isn't selling, I currently have to walk to a MB to check the price, then walk back to my bell to change it.
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03-20-2020, 01:40 AMRayddenPrimeNo, i believe you can do this when clicking on sell item from inventory or retainer... just click on ur listed item and click adjust price right from retainer and click the little icon on the top right that say “ check pricing” or something like that.. that shows how much people are selling it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backdrifter
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03-20-2020, 01:41 AMFirstnameLastname
The retainer interface as a whole needs a serious overhaul. Currently its only function is effectively to waste your time.
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03-20-2020, 01:42 AMAvidriaNo you don't, you can click a button in the top right of the sell item menu and select "compare prices" (iirc, not at my PC for exact wording) from the drop-downQuote:
Originally Posted by Backdrifter
You don't have to run back and forth at all to check prices or adjust them for auctions already posted
The retainer menu system is clunky and awful but that is one problem it doesn't have
Might see if I can add a pic later. I think the icon is like a little paper page looking thing? Should be there in the corner of the adjust prices menu -
03-20-2020, 02:08 AMBackdrifter
My mind has been blown. Thanks everyone. Can't beleive I've missed this function.