I think the 2nd ring slot is not really needed from a gameplay perspective

For one it is only useful if it was for glamour purposes if you like your different rings.

But from a gameplay perspective there is no real purpose to have two ring slots unless those rings had unique abilities (which very few of those actually exist like the EXP Buff). Now if this game was more like the classic Final Fantasy Games where accessories had unique abilities then I could definitely see the need for 2 ring slots.

However

There isn't a reason for it because most rings in this game just have their stats, you're better off with one ring slot with the newly absorbed stats, and re-adjustment to Materia slots for all rings.

If anything if people still want that 2nd ring slot then I would just regulate it for glamour use only where you can simply copy the ring you have on or a different ring in your armory to have it appear on your other hand.

Also while I'm at it, I want to talk about belts. So from what I understand once upon a time that Belts were able to be seen, but it would be nice that old feature was re-enabled again and was given the option to be invisible just like your helmet.

I understand that some people apparently didn't like the belts though.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Also while I'm at it, I want to talk about belts. So from what I understand once upon a time that Belts were able to be seen, but it would be nice that old feature was re-enabled again and was given the option to be invisible just like your helmet.

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Belts can't be seen because modelling them to fit gear was apparently a nightmare. Viera and Hrothgar can't even get all of their headpieces, and you want them to model all belts (a task they refused to do even back in ARR because it was too difficult) to be visible?

My only beef with rings in this game is how tomestone/drop rings still are limited to 1 per character by the 'unique' flag. If only they could raise the limit to 2, just for rings.

I would love for the waist slot to be used for the sashes and skirts that are currently modelled into either the body or leg gear. It would open up a huge amount of mixing and matching. I can understand why they don't want to *need* to include a visible waist item (or leave space for one) in every design, but I really wish it was something they could use intermittently.

As for rings, I guess making it a single item that appears on a designated hand would be much like the bracelets currently work - though I would hope you could get versions for each hand (eg. weathered ring goes on the left hand but the identical brass ring goes on the right hand) and I don't think they do that with bracelets.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

My only beef with rings in this game is how tomestone/drop rings still are limited to 1 per character by the 'unique' flag. If only they could raise the limit to 2, just for rings.

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This brings up something from a past expansion that I’m baffled the devs haven’t done again since.

At the end of Heavensward, there were actually THREE potential sets of BiS accessories instead of the usual two. Tome, Savage raid, and Proto Ultima. So for classes that ended up with crap sub stats on one of the standard rings, the third set awarded them another option instead of going for pentamelded crafted or double tome (one upgraded and one without).

I thought the devs would actually try this again with Eureka. Apparently not.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

But from a gameplay perspective there is no real purpose to have two ring slots unless those rings had unique abilities (which very few of those actually exist like the EXP Buff). Now if this game was more like the classic Final Fantasy Games where accessories had unique abilities then I could definitely see the need for 2 ring slots.

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From a gameplay perspective gear slots can be divided into three categories: weapons, armor and accessories. Within each category it doesn't really matter if there's one slot or five. They could be reduced to 1 weapon, 1 armor and 1 accessory and gameplay would remain largely unchanged. Heck, armor and accessory could probably be merged too since they give the same types of stats. The choice to divide up the slots in the way that they are is largely based on convention and aesthetic values.

Armory chest capacity for rings should be double.

But like OP said, what's the point of getting two of the same ring? They could adjust battle system or just double the stats on one ring.

From a gameplay perspective, glamouring is entirely pointless.

Not everything has to be about gameplay.

... really wanting less for increasing stats how bad can you be honestly we need a 2nd ear ring slot a second bracelet slot ..... and honestly we should have got a cape slot

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

... really wanting less for increasing stats how bad can you be honestly we need a 2nd ear ring slot a second bracelet slot ..... and honestly we should have got a cape slot

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I'm kind of failing to understand the first part of your message, are you saying players suck at the game for wanting one less ring?

Yes please, cause armory space for rings is not enough when you don’t have all your classes same level.

I don't care about any belt/etc shenanigans, but they definitely should double the stats on rings and reduce the slot to one. Ring management is a huge pain in the ass if you have a lot of jobs at different level ranges. Materia bonuses can be dealt with by giving rings four or five open slots and a broader ceiling on additional stats. And while they're at it, they need to strip the "unique" flag from all items and not use it anymore.

I despise the two ring slots. It does nothing but clutter up the single ring pane that you have to put 2 rings for each job.

1) Combine the rings into one bigger stat item,
2) Remove the 2nd ring all together, or
3) Remove the 2nd ring and implement something else (trinket, cape)

My only problem with rings is that the armoury chest section for them is the same size as all others even though you always need to have two rings while other slots need only one. Personally this frequently causes inventory issues in the armoury chest, so sometimes I have to put rings in my normal bags.

I like having two rings from a gearing perspective because it can give you more options. That being said it won't ruin my day if ring slots are merged into one, as long as we can still glam two different rings.

It would be nice to have cosmetic slots so we can mix and match earrings and bracelets, but that's another topic of conversation.

I miss the time when we had four ring slots and two earring slots.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

eThat being said it won't ruin my day if ring slots are merged into one, as long as we can still glam two different rings.

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That's not going to happen with the way glamours work here - they need an equipped item to attach to, or there's nowhere to store the information. (Its why you can't glamour, for example, a shirt and separate hat onto a cowl that prevents you from equipping headgear. There's nothing in the head slot for a glamour to be applied to.)

Either we keep both rings for glamour purposes and get inconvenienced while gearing, or we remove it for gear practicality and get inconvenienced when glamouring. :(

While I get that it seems unecessary to have two ring slots, I'm not seeing why it would be necessary to merge them.
The 2nd slot may be somewhat superfluous, but it's not really hurting anything, and it provides additional materia slots to make use of.
I also can't see them doubling the value of ring stats to make up for it either, that would be very odd.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That's not going to happen with the way glamours work here - they need an equipped item to attach to, or there's nowhere to store the information. (Its why you can't glamour, for example, a shirt and separate hat onto a cowl that prevents you from equipping headgear. There's nothing in the head slot for a glamour to be applied to.)

Either we keep both rings for glamour purposes and get inconvenienced while gearing, or we remove it for gear practicality and get inconvenienced when glamouring. :(

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Yea I get that, they would have to change how the game reads gear and glams to be able to let us have cosmetic slots. Still would be a nice thing to have though.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Armory chest capacity for rings should be double.

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I would think this would be a huge issue with having dual rings take up armory space. Oddly enough, it really hasn't been and I have at least one set of rings for all available roles in the game. I think the reason is because I rarely hold onto rings for glamour purposes. The ones that I do go into the glamour dresser or armoire if applicable. Even then, I only need to put in one ring, and not the pair.

What I would like is that they either replace the extra ring slot or belt slot and give us a face slot so we can have glasses, eyepatches, masks, etc. with hats & helmets at the same time.

There are like... 5 people playing this game that do NOT glamour that ring to 'emperor's new ring'...

That slot exists for them to show off their epic bling.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I would think this would be a huge issue with having dual rings take up armory space. Oddly enough, it really hasn't been and I have at least one set of rings for all available roles in the game. I think the reason is because I rarely hold onto rings for glamour purposes. The ones that I do go into the glamour dresser or armoire if applicable. Even then, I only need to put in one ring, and not the pair.

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It's not like I'm not having enough space, it's just annoying to have it near full all the time. Especially when leveling a job for example, I'll do dungeon runs and I usually take more loot than I need so I can sell or deliver it. All other slots have plenty space for reserve except the ring spot. I have to either sell quickly or check in my inventory if there aren't any pieces there that isn't being detected by "Recommended Gear". If "Recommended gear" also checked through your inventory, there wouldn't be that much practical difficulties for me personally.

Biggest argument though for me is just that it's not a nice sight to have armory chest near full and inconsistent with all other pieces.

It'd be nice if both ring slots are combined into one, it would certainly help inventory space, and [ideally, one can dream] a second sub slot exclusively for glamour purposes - something like 2 ring slots, 2 bracelets, 2 earrings *cough* a second 'head' slot so we can finally wear hats and glasses or other stuff *cough*

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Originally Posted by SamRF

It's not like I'm not having enough space, it's just annoying to have it near full all the time. Especially when leveling a job for example, I'll do dungeon runs and I usually take more loot than I need so I can sell or deliver it. All other slots have plenty space for reserve except the ring spot. I have to either sell quickly or check in my inventory if there aren't any pieces there that isn't being detected by "Recommended Gear". If "Recommended gear" also checked through your inventory, there wouldn't be that much practical difficulties for me personally.

Biggest argument though for me is just that it's not a nice sight to have armory chest near full and inconsistent with all other pieces.

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I don't share the same problem for some reason. I have a pair of rings for every role in the game, plus some that I should get rid of and still have room. I do not hold onto leveling gear though, especially accessories unless they are currently equipped. It is very easy for me to craft whatever I need for leveling jobs even if I don't have any of the mats on hand. Only gear I hold onto are the 50/60/70 tome gear, and even that isn't really necessary for anything other than ironworks since poetics can't be obtained pre 50 iirc. That's a stretch too though if you already have a max level job and grinding out roulette for current tomes.

Even if I didn't have crafting and Gil resources, I would still be hard pressed to hold onto anything I'm not currently using. This is an issue for the left side since I have so many glamour options. Accessories though isn't even remotely close to getting the same treatment.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

I'm kind of failing to understand the first part of your message, are you saying players suck at the game for wanting one less ring?

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i didn't say anything about sucking

I said wanting less when honestly we should have 7 ring slots at the least on realisim makes you a very bad person. I mean really more is always better

I'd be fine with removal of all accessories and belts.

Males, FemRoes, and Vieras should get 3 ring slots.

I'd be good with a merge as long as I can glamour them separately still somehow. Or at least choose what hand the ring goes on. I glamour my wedding ring on one and usually glamour the other one too if it isn't already cool looking :(