Ifrit on this server....

WHY DO ALL YOU BLM ON THIS SERVER FIGHT IFRIT IN THE MIDDLE........

JFC!!!!

Almost all the BLMs and THMs on Wutai I played with stood on Ifrit's right, in the next safe spot past the healer on that side.

It's funny how things like this can vary from server to server. There are a bunch of theoretically safe places to hang out as a BLM on Ifrit though.

Because Black Mages draw a lot of hate so don't want to risk pulling eruptions onto the healers, and the middle spot is out of Vulcan Blast range.

Were you having problems with them there?

Do you mean melee middle? If so, I think your playing with the wrong linkshell bud

Yeah our Blms usually stand on the left side and we or I should say THEY don't have issues with catching us Healers in Eruptions at all. *shrug*

Maybe the risk turns them on?

Why would you stand behind the healer & block their escape route? :(

why would you put all BLM on one side.... or even on top of the healer... or even in the middle?

If you put all BLM on 1 side... each eruptions means all the BLM has to move and when nails come up, some nails are out of range....

If you put them on top of healers... ok that's just plain stupid...

And on this server.. BLM love to stand in the middle behind the melee (if there is one).... Same thing.. eruption will be on all BLM and when he jumps the BLM has to move and wonder why they wipe all the time.

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

why would you put all BLM on one side.... or even on top of the healer... or even in the middle?

If you put all BLM on 1 side... each eruptions means all the BLM has to move and when nails come up, some nails are out of range....

If you put them on top of healers... ok that's just plain stupid...

And on this server.. BLM love to stand in the middle behind the melee (if there is one).... Same thing.. eruption will be on all BLM and when he jumps the BLM has to move and wonder why they wipe all the time.

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So dont put them on the sides with healer or middle with melee, check, got it. Stand with tank then?

In our parties we put two THM on the right side and Three on the left side in safe spots and the one WHM on the left and one on the right NOT with the THM's in safe spots.

I could see that being ideal. Then half of the THMs can continue casting when the other group gets hate. They'd have to run back, rather than toward the middle to avoid eruptions though, especially late in the fight. If hate #2 and #3 were in different groups and both ran toward the middle they could collide and take each other out with the eruptions.

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Originally Posted by Nighthawk

In our parties we put two THM on the right side and Three on the left side in safe spots and the one WHM on the left and one on the right NOT with the THM's in safe spots.

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Thank you!... at least you know the efficient way of doing it. I've spent too much time trying to show the people on this server where to stand.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

So dont put them on the sides with healer or middle with melee, check, got it. Stand with tank then?

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You're an idiot. read nighthawk's post.. that's the proper way of doing it. You probably transferred from lindblum :\

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

You're an idiot. read nighthawk's post.. that's the proper way of doing it. You probably transferred from lindblum :\

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Oh my. Just giving you a hard time.

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

You're an idiot. read nighthawk's post.. that's the proper way of doing it. You probably transferred from lindblum :\

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Its the same on our server. I quit because people were so bad. Moogle on the other hand is a breeze now.

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Originally Posted by XxSlyfox

Its the same on our server. I quit because people were so bad. Moogle on the other hand is a breeze now.

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ARTON I MISS YOU hahaha... yeah we cleared moogle like 9 times last night going for AV speed run tonight.

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The way it's done. no dd should ever stand outside those lines cos all your going to do is trap the healers with the later phase eruptions. 1 healer left. 1 healer right. all dd behind ifrit. WIN.

my blog on it
over 150 wins with this strategy so it works. and it's also very popular on sargatanas and saronia.

epic win set up. 1 war 2 whm 2 blm and 3 brds. song fest of tp mp and accuraccy buffs on the whole group. win in under 7 minutes

We win in 4mins with 1 WHM 6 BLMS 1 WAR. Atleast Selbina was good for something. Why would anyone ever bard in Ifrit that is just dumb.

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Originally Posted by Mcbone

We win in 4mins with 1 WHM 6 BLMS 1 WAR. Atleast Selbina was good for something. Why would anyone ever bard in Ifrit that is just dumb.

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because bards can go balls to the walls and not give a monkeys about mp conservation and if you have any common sense you time your combos right after eruptions and know where the plumes spawn you never get touched spam the living hell out of them as well as giving the war acc+tp to only further cement his hate and throwing macc+mp on the mages. as a bard i consistently deal more damage than most black mages while at the same time helping everyone else deal more.

the trouble with bard is that when people who dont know how to play consistantly get caught by animation locks the majority of the player base frowns upon them all. but it really is as simple as saving your 3 step combos for right after eruptions where you have ~25 seconds to get them off. ifrit never (or perhaps extremely rarely) does the same tp twice in a row

i rarely parse but when people do i usually come in very near if not on top. but if you can win in 4 minutes. thats quite impressive. good job.

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We win in 4mins with 1 WHM 6 BLMS 1 WAR. Atleast Selbina was good for something. Why would anyone ever bard in Ifrit that is just dumb.

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Not everyone is a blm.

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

ARTON I MISS YOU hahaha... yeah we cleared moogle like 9 times last night going for AV speed run tonight.

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Hey yo check out my grandma taru. 'slap a ho' lol hey ima slap you lol shit was funny.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

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The way it's done. no dd should ever stand outside those lines cos all your going to do is trap the healers with the later phase eruptions. 1 healer left. 1 healer right. all dd behind ifrit. WIN.

my blog on it
over 150 wins with this strategy so it works. and it's also very popular on sargatanas and saronia.

epic win set up. 1 war 2 whm 2 blm and 3 brds. song fest of tp mp and accuraccy buffs on the whole group. win in under 7 minutes

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Why have everyone in the middle for? If you have 2 on the left and 3 on the right... most of the time one side gets erupted and not the entire DD group. that's why you do 7 minute ifrits and not 4-5 minute ifrits.

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

Why have everyone in the middle for? If you have 2 on the left and 3 on the right... most of the time one side gets erupted and not the entire DD group. that's why you do 7 minute ifrits and not 4-5 minute ifrits.

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Safetymode, less chances whms die.

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

Why have everyone in the middle for? If you have 2 on the left and 3 on the right... most of the time one side gets erupted and not the entire DD group. that's why you do 7 minute ifrits and not 4-5 minute ifrits.

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i would mostly attribute your 4-5 minute fights down to you having 6 dds over the standard 5 to have more of an impact than the dds positioning. you effectively put out 120% of a conventional groups dps taking 6 dds over 5 which is obviously going to hae a large effect on the fight time.

personally though outside a group of people i know well, I would not trust most pick up groups with such a risky strategy.

ITT we rage about 1.19 content

Reminds me of the Odin bazaar in FFXI in Batallia Downs while every other server had their bazaars in Rolanberry..... odd people oO

Waaaay back in the day on Alexander, we had bazaars in Batallia Downs too :)

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Originally Posted by datboycuong

Why have everyone in the middle for? If you have 2 on the left and 3 on the right... most of the time one side gets erupted and not the entire DD group. that's why you do 7 minute ifrits and not 4-5 minute ifrits.

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The middle is safe. For a lot of reasons.

1) If cracks appear under healers, they can move without endangering BLMs. This means BLMS are free to continue DPSing without having to worry about running.

2) If cracks wipe out a healer, they aren't gonna wipe out anyone else. If you stack BLMS with healers, then you run the risk of having multiple ppl wipe from one freakin crack.

3) If you have melee DD its easier if BLMS stand behind them. That gives us a pathway to run to the top right or top left corners without endangering BLMs OR WHMs. You basically take a diagonal path to the side and up.

All in all everyone is safe when you have a whm on each side and everyone else behind ifrit.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

The middle is safe. For a lot of reasons.

1) If cracks appear under healers, they can move without endangering BLMs. This means BLMS are free to continue DPSing without having to worry about running.

2) If cracks wipe out a healer, they aren't gonna wipe out anyone else. If you stack BLMS with healers, then you run the risk of having multiple ppl wipe from one freakin crack.

3) If you have melee DD its easier if BLMS stand behind them. That gives us a pathway to run to the top right or top left corners without endangering BLMs OR WHMs. You basically take a diagonal path to the side and up.

All in all everyone is safe when you have a whm on each side and everyone else behind ifrit.

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You do realize there's no need to stack blms on whms right? There are two safe spots on both the left and right side.

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Originally Posted by Fated

ITT we rage about 1.19 content

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lol this is all I keep thinking the whole thread.

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Originally Posted by XxSlyfox

You do realize there's no need to stack blms on whms right? There are two safe spots on both the left and right side.

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But that doesn't give healers a place to run *if* you have melee DD. If they run back towards the blms, blms will have to run too. If they cut to the middle, melee dps will have to run. Having BLMS in the middle towards the back is really the best place.

I stand on the left, and only have to move from cracks. middle is stupid

Its stupid to call a spot stupid thats as safe as the one you favor..

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Originally Posted by Gentaro

Reminds me of the Odin bazaar in FFXI in Batallia Downs while every other server had their bazaars in Rolanberry..... odd people oO

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Hey! Ramuh had Batallia Down bazaar too! :P

Oh boy I remember many nights leaving Seffy standing there aaaalll night... I liked the music there. I'd just leave it on and go to sleep. <.<

There is nothing wrong with the middle spot, maybe you can't handle it, but for many people it just works. Being in the middle means to safe spots for healers. Meaning there is less of a chance of both healers dying.