Fury's 14 Duty Action Warrior Issue

Hello. I keep running into something when doing the new Savage raid with Ramuh.

During the Fury's 14 part, I keep doing the duty action properly, but it still knocks me off and kills the whole party. Here is how I'm doing it:

1. As soon as I see him dash off, I untarget him and use Holmgang.
2. I run inside the circle as soon as it pops up, and use the Duty Action.
3. I stand completely still - without turning the camera or doing anything - and analyze what is happening.
4. I look at my buff bar and see the yellow "Braced" icon.
5. Before any of this, I picked up an orb. It still has a lot of seconds on the timer.
6. Holmgang still has about 3 seconds left.

Yet when the charge hits, I live with 1 HP but still end up getting knocked off.

What am I doing wrong? It's driving me insane! Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This unreliability is making it so that I can never feel confident if I'm gonna be able to do it or not. And since there are two of these in the fight, I NEED to be able to know I can do it 100% of the time.

Is anyone else having problems with this? I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I had a similar issue today as a Paladin: Hallowed Ground used, Brace popped still got knocked off. Battle Log showed me taking 0 damage twice and Stand Your Ground and Braced falling off after being hit.

It worked fine for me every time. Are you facing the boss before using the action?

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Originally Posted by Launched

It worked fine for me every time. Are you facing the boss before using the action?

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I don't really worry about that, but technically I should be facing the boss considering I always chase after him after he dashes. I've tested out targeting him vs. untargeting him (I need to untarget him to cast Holmgang), and it still doesn't work 100% of the time.

I haven't personally performed the duty action yet but from my understanding you absolutely have to make sure you're facing the boss or it won't work.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

I haven't personally performed the duty action yet but from my understanding you absolutely have to make sure you're facing the boss or it won't work.

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I'm gonna try being extra careful with the direction I'm facing and see if that solves anything.

Hi, so how does it go so far?

I have the same issue, duno how many times you have to click on the duty action, even when I click 3 times on it, it still doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Mitis777

Hi, so how does it go so far?

I have the same issue, duno how many times you have to click on the duty action, even when I click 3 times on it, it still doesn't work.

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I have successfully pulled it off once and it only took 1 use of the action. The buff seems to disappear if you make any movements or use any other action.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I have successfully pulled it off once and it only took 1 use of the action. The buff seems to disappear if you make any movements or use any other action.

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I had no trouble with that mechanic yesterday and today I've been struggling every pull.

Perhaps it's because you need not to move as you said, gonna try this.

Thanks for the answer.

I make myself facing him directly, hit the duty action and then take my hands off the keyboard entirely to make sure I don't accidentally move.

So I was able to investigate this a lot. Apparently there are TWO buffs that need to be activated in order to stop you from getting knocked off:

One is the Stand Firm buff. This is the yellow buff that you get when you activate the Duty Action. Initially, I thought it was wearing off before the hit, but it seems to last unless you move.

The other buff is a blue buff, I believe it's called Braced. I've seen this pop up as soon as you step into the action circle, but looking back I noticed it wasn't always there. I think it has to do with whether you are facing the boss or not. However, I haven't confirmed this yet.

a question in E5S for WAR player, why my holmgang can't be active in 14 phase when i am not targeting boss, while i can do it without target normal everywhere else, the icon is not gray out, it has a red x simbol in bottom right of it, this that a bug or i am doing something wrong?

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

a question in E5S for WAR player, why my holmgang can't be active in 14 phase when i am not targeting boss, while i can do it without target normal everywhere else, the icon is not gray out, it has a red x simbol in bottom right of it, this that a bug or i am doing something wrong?

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When he dashes off during Fury's 14, you think you aren't targeting boss, but you actually are targeting him. He's off to the side, so the game thinks you're trying to use Holmgang on a far away target. That's why the red x appears.

Before, I used to untarget him and then use Holmgang. But now I run up to where the Duty Action area is and use Holmgang before using the Duty Action. I've been successful thus far.

So while it's not exactly a bug, it's still pretty crappy game design that you're forced to do it like this. If you ask me, trying to use Holmgang on a faraway target should just make it so that Holmgang gets cast without the chain. Either that, or increase the range.

Honestly from what I have seen the Duty action is finicky and might need to be looked at. I don't mind the fact looking at the boss as a requirement, but not tapping any buttons is a bit of a wierd inclusion, you know? Now I figure holmgang is going to be finicky with E5S which is why a few WARs I have played with generally will use holmgang on a tankbuster beforehand to save cooldowns for the Fury 14. Dunno if that's wise but seems the best option until its figured out every thing we can and can't do with this borked mechanic.

GNB, but similar context, what I normally do is spam the action, I've seen the action expire after a second but, hitting it again usually keeps it up long enough to survive the dash.