The title should be self-explanatory. There has a been a multitude of requests, of reverts or changes from the community. Now, I don't know how often the community gets a response, I do know that you guys did respond to the GC stack a month or two back. But, there's just so much more the people want. While this may be a controversial pick, but the topic of Open-World PvP has continued to resurface, there is a genuine desire for it despite 'balance' being a means of excuse to saying, "no we should not have this," kind of mentality. If the playerbase wants more options to PvP, I see no cause for harm. In 2.x you guys were more serious about balance when you had things like, a larger hotbar of actions. You even had different uses for certain actions in a PvE and PvP environment. You even had a more serious leveling system that gave purpose to PvP ranks. You made all those changes to appease to the less dedicated and wanted a free pass. Now, these days. I get people come up to me and ask me about PvP and how they want to take it more seriously. And, I agree with the desire. If they want to start taking it more seriously. Then let them Square, bring back the PvP rank relevancy, listen to the feedback of the major PvP discords, things like Rival Wings still needing a roulette to just queue out of certain events like the current Moogle Tome event. Just a lil more dedication to the other side please. You given enough hardcore content in this game. There are still players that have yet to attempt some of these fights. Please. Work on other stuff.
Square-Enix, please look at the feedback.
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02-12-2020, 05:09 AMDarkKumoriSquare-Enix, please look at the feedback.
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02-12-2020, 07:40 AMShinklet
Just play another pvp game. SE doesn't care about pvp. Even if they did, if six years is anything to go by, they don't have the expertise to make an engaging pvp experience either.
Few mmos coming out this year, maybe one of them will get it right. -
02-14-2020, 02:31 AMDivinemights
PvP in mmorpg is just a desert and will never be main course. It is a fact. You are being delusional if you says other wise.
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02-14-2020, 03:35 AMElladie
Actually the title isn't self explanatory at all. What feedback? Feedback about what subject? I had to read a few sentences of your OP before I had the faintest idea what you were talking about
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02-14-2020, 03:49 AMDakuryon
If you desire PvP from a different MMO, I strongly advise against joining TERA Online. BHS no longer cares for its playerbase, in fact they tossed all their lore right out of the window in favor of those accursed nekomimi midgets whose name I refuse to speak ... It just outright doesn't care for integrity anymore.
... I would suggest Warframe for PvP, if you happen to like games that feature space ninjas with a pretty good backstory :3 -
02-14-2020, 04:08 AMMoonliteQuote:
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02-14-2020, 04:41 AMBloodRubyXIII might enjoy my main course, but I always look forward to the Dessert. You can't have a meal without Dessert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemights
Metaphorically and literally speaking.
I want something like how Rift was when it first came out again, the talent tree system and PvP in that game was absolutely bomb until they ruined it and I haven't seen anything as good as that since. You give me a game like that again and I'm out of here; even if it lacks a ranked mode or solo queue I'd play it. I had such high hopes for Diablo 3 PvP too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinklet
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02-14-2020, 06:29 AMDivinemightsIt is not like I don't want a better developed PvP in mmorpg but the fact is fact, PvE is the primary focus and PvP got dev's spare time.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII
The only PvP only mmorpg hit the market few years ago (already forgot the name) didn't even last a year. -
02-14-2020, 07:23 AMShinkletI still think a lot of current feast can be salvaged. A skill spec system that is either job or role based that allows you to pick 3 out of 12-15 modifiers, that are blanaced as can be, but have individual impacts could be super fun. Like in Shb, but more impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII
Also the addition of a grandmaster tier at 2500 to keep high rank games popping for longer.
But small things like this will never be added as long as people keep requesting PLS ADd A WOlF cOLLar sTore and liKE 50 glAMS PlS sQUARe!!! Which drowns it out.
Who am I kidding, pvp isn't going to get anymore dev time! -
02-14-2020, 07:57 AMDakuryonAh, my apologies! I should have explained more thoroughly. It doesn't, but I named TERA as an example of which game to never turn to for PvP since BHS has ruined it. Not only with the lore, but with a lot of other things, especially the gear upgrade system, dungeon system, and other mechanics (including PvP). They made it impossible to enjoy anymore, unless one is a masochist who enjoys the mental torture one would be subjected to the moment they step into it. It's a rapidly dying game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlite
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02-15-2020, 12:14 AMStormfur
Have you seen the whole fiasco over the waymarks? That was like putting a cast on a papercut. If there's that kind of reaction to something so small, I can't imagine how it would be to create something like a talent tree for PVP (as much as I would LOVE it, don't get me wrong. I love games where you can have that kind of impact on your own character's growth).
There are just so many things that can be done...but I feel like with regards to PVP, there's one guy chained down in the basement working on it all. -
02-15-2020, 12:46 AMKaiche
I kinda miss the old point system we had where we could upgrade certain skills like retaliate to do more counter damage etc, perhaps they should consider bringing that back because atm its so bland and there's clear go-tos for additionals.
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02-15-2020, 01:21 AMBloodRubyXIII mean being serious here, suggest an alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur
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02-15-2020, 03:01 AMStormfurLeader of the party alone has the ability to create waymarks. If they don't want to do it, assign lead to someone else. /shrug. Seems easy enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII
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02-15-2020, 08:41 PMBloodRubyXIIYou forget that the Party Leader is randomized in RF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur
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02-15-2020, 10:45 PMtestnameJup, I don't even care about pvp but just to get a mount and outfits - that is the end of pvp in this game -Quote:
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02-15-2020, 11:58 PMSaberMaxwellExactly what they did with presets, but don't lock waymarks once combat begins. Monitor for programs that actively inject inputs into the game, and flag suspicious activity.Quote:
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Bam, you defeated Paisley (it's Dev won't update the program anymore once the program's function becomes first party), which alone should cut down on the cheating using waymarks completely. -
02-16-2020, 12:36 AMBloodRubyXIIThey've already said in the LL they can't/won't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell