can we expand trust to everything but make it only useable for 1st time run

So really can we take the trust thing and 1st off make it on every area of the game trails/dungons but only make it for the first time I've noticed. What happans is you just get done with a quest it builds up your hype and enjoyment/exitement for the battle and then you end up qing for way over a hour and half. At which point the fight is meha who cares by the time you get in. Adding in trust for everything on 1st time running not only would keep the hype for the fight but honestly the trust are really good for teaching you the fight without being a spoiler like the video nonsense.

No. Absolutely not. I want trusts for levelling alt classes/farming the same dungeon, first time only makes it useless.

Also, never gonna happen, TRusts are not being applied to old dungeons.

Why only make it a one time thing though? You haven't explained that part, much less watched your spelling.

Considering that they'd need to programm the AIs for every single fight to be able to handle the mechanics, I dont think this is a very... feasible idea. Theres probably a good reason that we can do all the ShB-dungeons, but not the trials with the Trusts, which would be that programming 7 NPCs to be able to handle the mechanics of the fight while still leaving room for the player to contribute and pick any job they'd like isnt all that easy. (Seriously with 7 NPCs who are more or less perfect at executing mechanics you might aswell replace the trial with a cutscene in which those NPCs simply defeat the boss...)

This effort seems even less warranted if its a one-time-thing only - and on top of that a one-time-thing that not every player is going to use.

I get the argument about queues interrupting your "flow" (thought, honestly: for what are you queueing and what time is it that you'd had to wait more than 30 minutes?), but I dont really think that its worth the investment into a one-time-thing.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Considering that they'd need to programm the AIs for every single fight to be able to handle the mechanics, I dont think this is a very... feasible idea. Theres probably a good reason that we can do all the ShB-dungeons, but not the trials with the Trusts, which would be that programming 7 NPCs to be able to handle the mechanics of the fight while still leaving room for the player to contribute and pick any job they'd like isnt all that easy. (Seriously with 7 NPCs who are more or less perfect at executing mechanics you might aswell replace the trial with a cutscene in which those NPCs simply defeat the boss...)

This effort seems even less warranted if its a one-time-thing only - and on top of that a one-time-thing that not every player is going to use.

I get the argument about queues interrupting your "flow" (thought, honestly: for what are you queueing and what time is it that you'd had to wait more than 30 minutes?), but I dont really think that its worth the investment into a one-time-thing.

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at the moment im at 2 hours q time well 136:37 q for Hades msq the dying gasp. lol


https://twitter.com/NekovampP/status...502146/photo/1
just because I know people won't believe words theres a ss (and its still going at the rate it will be another 2 hours lol at the least thats one reason why it should be done with trails sure its a little more work but in dungons they are programmed to know a fight its not that diffrent just a few extra code lines thats about it

no, no, NO, heck no, No, no never, nope, nuh uh. nah. why? no.

or we could just remove all storyline related stuff from dungons and groups because honestly it kills alot of the enjoyment in fights

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

or we could just remove all storyline related stuff from dungons and groups because honestly it kills alot of the enjoyment in fights

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More noes. And if your problem are queues, ever considered getting social and queuing with friends?

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

More noes. And if your problem are queues, ever considered getting social and queuing with friends?

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eh doesn't work when people are on half the people aren't renewed and the ones who are on I think can't read messages any more and honestly that should be a yes _-_

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

at the moment im at 2 hours q time well 136:37 q for Hades msq the dying gasp. lol


https://twitter.com/NekovampP/status...502146/photo/1
just because I know people won't believe words theres a ss (and its still going at the rate it will be another 2 hours lol at the least thats one reason why it should be done with trails sure its a little more work but in dungons they are programmed to know a fight its not that diffrent just a few extra code lines thats about it

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...just out of curiosity... that screenshot shows that its 7:13 am right now for you. Does that extend to the majority of people on your server (and datacenter), aka are you simply trying to queue for this trial basically in the early morning (a time people usually are busy with sleeping and getting ready for work/school/uni/whatever) and are surprised that nothing is happening? This is very much what I was refering to by asking "what times is it".

To me the question would always be: Is the pay off worth the investment - and in a case like this, I just dont see it. Queues are not as bad as an issue as long you as you dont try to queue in the middle of the night - and if you have to do taht (for work reasons etc.) you can always manage to find a server thats in a different timezone and therefor has different peak-hours, to match yours better.

I get that people only want to play through the story at their own pace, but personally I think a much better solution here would be to just provide them with a cutscene then. Maybe of a video of 4/8 of the devs running through the dungeon/trial. However, all endgame content - all optional dungeons, raids, trials, tomestones etc. - should be locked for a person who picks that option until they return and complete all the duties with other people to ensure you dont get someone completly cluesless in your next Eden NM or even EX-primal party.

...but yeah, queueing at a time when other people are actually awake would probably help quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

at the moment im at 2 hours q time well 136:37 q for Hades msq the dying gasp. lol


https://twitter.com/NekovampP/status...502146/photo/1
just because I know people won't believe words theres a ss (and its still going at the rate it will be another 2 hours lol at the least thats one reason why it should be done with trails sure its a little more work but in dungons they are programmed to know a fight its not that diffrent just a few extra code lines thats about it

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You are playing at 7:13 am local time... you are in FF14 off hours. People are asleep, going to work/school, starting their day, etc. That is one problem.
The other problem is that you are showing to be playing as a DPS... which always have long queue times. I am not surprised by your queue timer at all considering those two variables.

Before you ask for SE for changes to the trust system... which would take way too many resources to do... you can try to:
-Queue during better play times
-Play as a role that has faster queues
-Go with friends/FC mates who can queue with you (especially if that have Tank and/or Healer)

Or you can just sit there and wait until some more people start popping in after the daily reset.

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Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea

You are playing at 7:13 am local time... you are in FF14 off hours. People are asleep, going to work/school, starting their day, etc. That is one problem.
The other problem is that you are showing to be playing as a DPS... which always have long queue times. I am not surprised by your queue timer at all considering those two variables.

Before you ask for SE for changes to the trust system... which would take way too many resources to do... you can try to:
-Queue during better play times
-Play as a role that has faster queues
-Go with friends/FC mates who can queue with you (especially if that have Tank and/or Healer)

Or you can just sit there and wait until some more people start popping in after the daily reset.

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I do the 1st one I just happen to hit the area to finnally make the game standable to return to darkness and wanted to end it so I can focus on the jobs I really want to play. However Once I tried Mch I got addicted to it game play wise the job is like a drug once you play it it becomes so great and enjoyable. I wanted to switch to warrior in shadows but _-_ again mch grew more addcitive I do have a fc/friends just they aren't renewed and can't renew I was paying for one friends memebership(sending paypal money) for a few months but times got rather hard so i can't do it any more for them.