Excuse my english and excuse this sensitive message. I'm being more emotional thoses days i just lost someone in my family.
I'm working as a barman in RL and one customer recently told me : (in french not sure of the traduction for english)
" The trip is the destination, thats why I take the train "
What he meant is that whatver we want: working to get it is the real pleasur of life.
The distance between A and B is what make B different.
And for FFXIV : i don't want of a perfect game. Neither do you (I think).
All we want is to work together with this shared goal. Every little step foward will be a real satisfaction. And thats why i'm playing this game. If Yoshi and us keep working and playing we will achieve wayyyyyy more than a WoW experience or any other near perfect game on release.
It's really nice to feel that. I was happy when Yoshi decided that we would, togheter, take the train and enjoy this very fun challenge to go from A to B.
a sensitive message :p
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03-22-2011, 01:10 PMKaboushia sensitive message :p
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03-22-2011, 01:14 PMBelgianRofl
What I get from that message relates more to playing FFXI than the development process of FFXIV. I'd rather there be a game where I get to experience and overcome challenges. Right now, the only obstacle is requiring enough patience to see if this game stops being so lousy before some really great games release.
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03-22-2011, 01:15 PMVicious
I like it. We're not paying anything yet, and we have a front row seat to see the game evolve.
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03-22-2011, 01:17 PMEolrid
That's a pretty cool way of looking at it.
Really, one of the reasons I'm sticking around (aside from the fact that I ultimately like the game) is that it's interesting to watch it progress. I understand that Square Enix should have released a game that was ready, but I don't feel burned. And if I didn't see its potential and think that SE were really trying to turn things around, I wouldn't still be here.
Hopefully the journey ends well. -
03-22-2011, 01:30 PMCoombahI agree. I like seeing the game evolve and being some of the first to expeirence it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious
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03-22-2011, 01:36 PMEvangela
no
this is not working, it's about playing!
when you play the game you need happiness during your way from A to B
that guy and his quotation is good but useless with our issues here -
03-22-2011, 01:43 PMtrinta
First of all, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss.
The English phrase as I've heard it in the past is "It's not the destination, but the journey."
That being said, I disagree with its application to XIV. While it was nice to see, for instance, the introduction of a market search feature, that does not justify the game having released without it. I don't get a thrill of exhilaration from seeing Improved Targeting!!! (that still doesn't function well for me).
I enjoyed XI, and I really like the potential of XIV, so I continue watching the game's development and even playing it, in the hopes that one day it will be what I want, but as for the idea that seeing these improvements is itself a reward... That's a thrill for alpha testers, not retail customers. -
03-22-2011, 01:45 PMBelgianRofl
The mystery man's message is about playing the game to reach the end, and about not just starting at the end.
In a way, it's like how FFXIV tries to hand the user everything on a silver platter, making the path between A and B as short, simple, and easy as possible. Ex. Can teleport anywhere at any time, Aggressive Monster Icons, no difficult battles on the way to the level limit. -
03-22-2011, 01:48 PMKaboushi
I'd say its why we feel chocobos more fun than animas! Thx trinta, thx all for reading too.
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03-22-2011, 02:31 PMJagermeister
im in it for the journey as well. and its pretty cool that there are teams of people working to make my journey better. without a monthly fee i really cant have any complaints ^.^
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03-22-2011, 03:56 PMARoyI agree on the initial point; it's not about the difference between playing a perfect game and building an imperfect one, it's the difference between playing a game and finishing one.Quote:
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Other than that
A) Battle would be be more difficult (Read: Interesting) if they bothered to make it more strategic, I've given various examples of how they can do this around the forum, not gonna get into it again.
B) Screw you and everyone who thinks that aggro icons make it too easy; no one likes running through an area and getting one shotted and forced back thirty minutes worth of holding up/w because some monster decided he didn't like your hairdo and felt the need to convey the hatred it brought forth from a hundred feet away thus leaving you wondering why you're suddenly dead. No one. The aggro icons were a good idea and they better damn well stay.
If you like living dangerous, then ask for an option to turn them off. But by the time you feel that way, chances are you're already going to be an experienced enough player to know which is which. -
03-22-2011, 06:55 PMNoMX
It's pretty damn easy to tell which mobs agro anyways... if it looks evil, it's probably evil. There's only a few exceptions... Vultures for one. I was surprised the first time I got agro'd by one, since I was so used to them being passive in FF11. It was a fun twist of events but I thought it was funny at the time. Like ARoy mentioned, a toggle to turn them on and off would be acceptable. Then again, it's kind of ironic that WoW was never under fire for having visual cues that let you know if a mob agros or not (they had a red hp bar above their head, passive had a yellow one). The reason i say it's ironic is so many FF14 players are ex WoW players.
And in regards to the OP... I like ff14 because I've always had the desire to get in on an MMO from the start and help set the standards on how things are done. I've always been a year or two too late in games before, but thankfully I got in on FFXIV in time to join a shell that kind of revolutionizes NM fights. As more and more people see us, they adapt our styles of playing. That's what drives me... Being on the cutting edge of strategy. This game allows that. -
03-22-2011, 07:04 PMDeltara
The journey is the destination!
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937585
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03-22-2011, 07:10 PMShaolinlol, good stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Deltara
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03-22-2011, 07:21 PMKaboushiI loled lolQuote:
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