Please Devs, Add Crystarium housing!

The Crystarium is many player's favourite city in the game, and I would really appreciate if if you devs could add housing to this place, even if it was only through the form of apartments.

I doubt it'll happen (definitely not anytime soon), but I would love to live in that city. If not a housing ward, just apartments there would be nice. Don't see much reason you couldn't have an apartment without a full ward, barring some limitation in how it has to be coded in maybe.

There is already lore in the game that outright states that accomodation in the Crystarium is at a premium (a Lakeland sidequest mentions about a npc that was hoping to move there and it was only because a vacancy opened up that she was able to do so, they would have had to turn her away otherwise), so actual FC-style housing is just not possible. We do have a fancy inn room there though so I think that will be the limit of 'housing' available there.

More likely you'll see Crystarium style brick and steel wallpaper and internal housing fittings to compliment the Crystarium furnishing already available, but as actual housing, I sadly don't think it will happen (Ishgardian housing is still yet to be added and that's been requested for years).

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

There is already lore in the game that outright states that accomodation in the Crystarium is at a premium (a Lakeland sidequest mentions about a npc that was hoping to move there and it was only because a vacancy opened up that she was able to do so, they would have had to turn her away otherwise), so actual FC-style housing is just not possible. We do have a fancy inn room there though so I think that will be the limit of 'housing' available there.

More likely you'll see Crystarium style brick and steel wallpaper and internal housing fittings to compliment the Crystarium furnishing already available, but as actual housing, I sadly don't think it will happen (Ishgardian housing is still yet to be added and that's been requested for years).

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Does lore really matter when the devs decided to completely overwrite the lore for Astrologian?

Ninety percent of the First is still covered by wastelands devoid of life. They don't really have the spare room to worry about housing for entitled adventurers right now.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

There is already lore in the game that outright states that accomodation in the Crystarium is at a premium (a Lakeland sidequest mentions about a npc that was hoping to move there and it was only because a vacancy opened up that she was able to do so, they would have had to turn her away otherwise), so actual FC-style housing is just not possible. We do have a fancy inn room there though so I think that will be the limit of 'housing' available there.

More likely you'll see Crystarium style brick and steel wallpaper and internal housing fittings to compliment the Crystarium furnishing already available, but as actual housing, I sadly don't think it will happen (Ishgardian housing is still yet to be added and that's been requested for years).

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Who's to say they can't try to expand a little or something?
Maybe by the time this expansion is done, all is well and maybe they can restore.
I'd take apartments too if the real housing is too much trouble.

To be honest, I barely care about the lore if it's gonna
keep pushing up for more fun stuff, but you never know.

Do you really think they have the resources and time to make land and specialized housing for the influx of adventurers not even from their own shard? We're on the First to help their home recover not build another Eulmore. On top of that, the Crystarium is not a fun-time adventure housing ward. It's a city of refugees. We're lucky to even have a room of our own considering how many people go there to seek shelter because they have no home of their own. Not to mention as someone above said, hundreds are turned away because there is no room in the Pennants.

There seems to be a pattern of people wanting a housing ward in places that canonically have literally better and more important things to do than establish a housing ward for foreign adventurers. You know like Ishgard and, though no one has asked for it but I'm sure someone somewhere has thought about it, Ala Mhigo.

Isn't the Eden raid story to it clearing up the damage done by the light to the land. Could see then towards end of the expansion the world being restored to mostly how it was. So could see inn housing maybe for the source towards the end. If think about it there is only one warrior of light so to npc's would only see the need for one housing plot or apartment room for warrior of light.

there are no other adventurers on the first other than "you". so there's no need for housing for "you".

I'd be all for it.

I'm not sure why people are trying to use 'lore' as an excuse for it not to happen, since there isn't really anything in relation to the story that stops a special house from being constructed for the Warrior of Darkness as a gesture of good will for not only saving the First but continuing to work towards keeping it safe.

Hopefully the story connects the Source and First somehow so that regular folk can travel between both and then there's even less excuse for there to not be a housing district.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

since there isn't really anything in relation to the story that stops a special house from being constructed for the Warrior of Darkness as a gesture of good will for not only saving the First but continuing to work towards keeping it safe.

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Why would you want a home on the First when your friends, family, and ultimate duty are on the Source? Why would you isolate yourself on the First when those who depend on you on the Source are unable to contact you when needed?

If it's style you want, SE can always add in more Crystarium themed furnishings and a Crystarium inspired exterior skin. But a housing district on the First makes no sense until the main story arc of the game is completed and the Warrior of Light is no longer needed. At that point, sure. Let the Warrior of Light retire to the First so he/she can fade into legend on the Source.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

there are no other adventurers on the first other than "you". so there's no need for housing for "you".

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There are adventurers on the First, mostly met through the role quests. There just isn't a formal Adventurers' Guild like on the Source, unless one counts Clan Nutsy.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'd be all for it.

I'm not sure why people are trying to use 'lore' as an excuse for it not to happen, since there isn't really anything in relation to the story that stops a special house from being constructed for the Warrior of Darkness as a gesture of good will for not only saving the First but continuing to work towards keeping it safe.

Hopefully the story connects the Source and First somehow so that regular folk can travel between both and then there's even less excuse for there to not be a housing district.

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Don't forget the time differential. Right now the Source and the First are "aligned" somewhat, but eventually the pendulum will swing the other way and the time dilation effect will cause a great discrepancy between the two.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

There are adventurers on the First, mostly met through the role quests. There just isn't a formal Adventurers' Guild like on the Source, unless one counts Clan Nutsy.

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they are all effectively NPC's though. they are not other "real" player characters.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

Don't forget the time differential. Right now the Source and the First are "aligned" somewhat, but eventually the pendulum will swing the other way and the time dilation effect will cause a great discrepancy between the two.

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This is why I expect that we will "Lore Wise" not be able to return to the First after the end of Shadowbringers. While we will be able to go back in game, story wise, after we leave, were gone. I do expect to see a compromise though where we will be able to build Crystarium themed houses on the Source.

Our suite at the Pendants technically is personal housing according to the story. We don't get to decorate it, but it is ours long-term and not just renting a room at the inn.

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Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7

Does lore really matter when the devs decided to completely overwrite the lore for Astrologian?

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If you mean the cards, that "complete overwrite" resulted in a minor change to how two of the cards are described, leaving the other four untouched, and the removal of Leveva's instructions on when to use each one during the initial battle sequence. They're still having the same lore-effect of empowering the person in various ways, just all translating to the battle system as an increase to strength rather than other attributes.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Why would you want a home on the First when your friends, family, and ultimate duty are on the Source? Why would you isolate yourself on the First when those who depend on you on the Source are unable to contact you when needed?

If it's style you want, SE can always add in more Crystarium themed furnishings and a Crystarium inspired exterior skin. But a housing district on the First makes no sense until the main story arc of the game is completed and the Warrior of Light is no longer needed. At that point, sure. Let the Warrior of Light retire to the First so he/she can fade into legend on the Source.

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The Crystarium is my favorite city/hub in game and I would buy a house/apartment there in a heartbeat. I don't RP or care much about the lore of the place myself, so 'isolating' myself on the first means absolutely nothing to me. For those who are into that, I'm sure they could easily create some story as to why the housing is being expanded in the First if they want to go that route.

I think the bigger lore-breaker is a new player joining an FC who have an estate on the First, visiting their plot before reaching the point in the msq that the Exarch pulls you into the First.
When you reach the 5.0 story it's like actually I've been to this world hundreds of times already to water my garden. This is normal.

Even leaving the lore aside, we're only getting to see Ishgard housing in 6.0 and it's been...how many years since HW came out? I expect if we ever get to see housing on the prime at all, it won't be for several years from now.

I'd love that, but doubt it will happen for many reasons, lore and such.

That being said, I hope we'll get more furnitures and perhaps a housing exterior skin. Some garden furnitures would be nice, like those big purple-ish trees. I'd love to have them in my garden!

Let's not make things up, now.

We all know 99.8% of people are still hanging out in Limsa.

I just want an apartment. Literally, I don't want a house there. An apartment would be MORE THAN ENOUGH for me. SEPls?

After some thought, maybe the easiest thing for the Devs to do is to add "instanced" small, medium and large housing to the Crystarium. They would not have yards outside the house as they are the structures on those little spires around the tower. That way they could dramatically increase housing but not have to worry about the server loads or stresses. They would use the exact small, medium and large instanced interiors already in existence, so the coding would be minimal.

As I understand, the majority of the "Server Issues" stem from the yards where people place their belongings. Allowing instanced housing would get around that and they could offer the pricing for 50% off as there is no yards. People would certainly buy them without question. They could even implement this in the main cities as they already have areas that are already "off limits" because those are for "special" people. I don't know of a single city that would not jump at the opportunity to have the WoL residing their city's special area.

if they could do instanced housing they would have probably done that from the beginning. but they wanted to have the neighborhood feel so they're stuck with it, and at this point i don't think they can change it on a whim to just start adding instanced housing. i have a feeling if any changes are made to housing to redo it everyone would have to lose their house and start over.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

i have a feeling if any changes are made to housing to redo it everyone would have to lose their house and start over.

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Which is very unlikely to happen because I can imagine the blacklash about this decision.

If anything, they should make apartments scaleable in size. That should be enough to solve housing issue almost completely. There are 90 apartments in every ward and every subward, which makes for 15 120 appartments in total, and this amount is almost unlimited even for very populated servers. Yes, apartments don't have yard, but for the very least opportuinity of having big size room will give players an opportuinity to have somewhat a home to decorate, not 2 meters where you barely can walk.

Add housing to Ishgard but make players actually have to build their home a bit at a time using crafting skills and maybe even earn their land plot in Ishgard through participation in the restoration sequence they added.

Add the instanced housing everyone's been crying for to be Sea of clouds. You get your house on your own little floating island all to yourself.

I wouldn't mind underwater housing in the Ruby Sea tbh...

Ishgard housing will come before anything i would imagine

I really like the inn room we have tbh. Would be fantastic if we could decorate it though.

Personally if we could get a house on the first. I would love for holminster switch to become a housing zone. Be kinda nice to have a house near a farm.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

Which is very unlikely to happen because I can imagine the blacklash about this decision.

If anything, they should make apartments scaleable in size. That should be enough to solve housing issue almost completely. There are 90 apartments in every ward and every subward, which makes for 15 120 appartments in total, and this amount is almost unlimited even for very populated servers. Yes, apartments don't have yard, but for the very least opportuinity of having big size room will give players an opportuinity to have somewhat a home to decorate, not 2 meters where you barely can walk.

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If they did it right, they could implement a different housing system with minimal backlash.

I'm thinking specifically of the ESO housing system where every house is a real world location, and every player in the game, theoretically, can own every house. So let's say that they made instanced houses like that in every zone that currently has housing for different purchase prices, and when they implement it, if you already own a small house, then your small house transfers to a deed for that small house in the zone automatically, and so on with medium and large houses.

Then they could let people purchase a house, theoretically, in every city if they wanted, and they could increase the limit on yard items since the game would no longer have to render the yards of every person in your neighborhood when you load in.

The down side is that the housing wards they do have are pretty nice, and those would be lost, though in theory the existing wards could also just be converted into FC housing only.

I'd rather get Ishgard and Ala Mhigo housing first. And when we go to the Empire possibly Garlean housing.

I hardly see why eventually the land can't return to normal and things like housing become necessary, y'all are acting like the events in ShB just happened yesterday. People just want to disagree to disagree because they think it's fun. "Do you really think..." arguments are pretty...assertive. Take it easy people. I for one think Crystarium housing would be amazing, and I truly hope that upsets people.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

There is already lore in the game that outright states that accomodation in the Crystarium is at a premium (a Lakeland sidequest mentions about a npc that was hoping to move there and it was only because a vacancy opened up that she was able to do so, they would have had to turn her away otherwise), so actual FC-style housing is just not possible. We do have a fancy inn room there though so I think that will be the limit of 'housing' available there.

More likely you'll see Crystarium style brick and steel wallpaper and internal housing fittings to compliment the Crystarium furnishing already available, but as actual housing, I sadly don't think it will happen (Ishgardian housing is still yet to be added and that's been requested for years).

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NPC: I'm sorry there is just not enough room for you- please understand, we'll place you on the waiting list.
WoL: *slides 200 million gil across the table*
NPC: We suddenly have all vacancies!

As for my usual dead horse drum, uhm.. instanced housing hurray! lol. In so much that the quantity of available houses, of the type and location desired, is always able to meet player demand, such like wildstar, eso, and loads of other mmos (it's certainly not something I'd say is easy, given the circumstances far from that, but at least it's also not unheard of black magickery lol). Without slapping many spoilers I still think that last zone in ShB opened up a great opportunity for instanced housing. That would have been a cool way to earn your own, manipulatable, space.

I'd love it tbh. And the people siting lore to say no like.. you realise we healed the land with the eden raids? They could establish housing there and just have it be we get a house and all other players are actually just the other ppl lore wise moving in to live their lives. Plenty ways to make it work.

That Eden land that's just beginning the first step in a lengthy recovery from a barren wasteland to being able to support life at some time in the future? Yeah, let's dig that up and put up a giant chocobo house.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

That Eden land that's just beginning the first step in a lengthy recovery from a barren wasteland to being able to support life at some time in the future? Yeah, let's dig that up and put up a giant chocobo house.

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Yes, lets! Come end of endwalker it could have been years over there in theory since it was already established that time moves differently there when we first arrived, the other scions had already been there for a considerable time. The building of a settlement there makes sense to me! Braving the unknown and cultivating the land and helping it grow.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Yes, lets! Come end of endwalker it could have been years over there in theory since it was already established that time moves differently there when we first arrived, the other scions had already been there for a considerable time. The building of a settlement there makes sense to me! Braving the unknown and cultivating the land and helping it grow.

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Except that would then have to mandate completion of the Eden raids simply to acess, as for those that don't want to raid or couldn't be bothered with it (because it is after all optional content) wouldn't be able to go there (I myself hate raiding and have never bothered with Eden), due to creating a plot hole where from their perspective the Empty still exists.

Given the who-ha over having to mandate the Crystal Tower raids for ShB's storyline, I do not see SE doing anything like that again. So restoring the Empty to a proper geological environment is and will remain optional content.

I still want to live in the Macarenses Angle. I don't care about NPC's, Lore or whatever someone might miss there. I love that Place. So why not make there Apartments? Yeah it is under Water and we can breath under Water (only God knows why). And we don't need there NPC's or whatever. Plain and simple 2 Room Aparments with a Balcony. Emet invited us to the Macarenses Angle, why waste a Place like that? I am sure that I am not the only one who wants to live there.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Yeah, let's dig that up and put up a giant chocobo house.

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Now you're cooking with kupo pom poms! ;)

I was honestly thinking of a something something area that relates to someone named Emet (last zone); though having a place in Eden sounds cool. .

Of course to me I'm still thinking akin to Wildstar or ESO and in which case my brain says "why not both?" lol. Because that would totally be do-able, even from a lore perspective, if you had the right housing system. In Wildstar you'd just collect the essence of zones to which you replicate them in your own aether space. The latter would obviously just be being able to own multiple houses just like that game (and being more serious you could lore in why your presence in a fragile area is good, part of the area could have some sort of stabilization effect, easy peazy lore).

Naturally if we use our exact current housing system, doing either would be relatively "wut?". Lock entire ward behind level 80 MSQ / a raid, huehue...hueheuehehehehehe lol.

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

I still want to live in the Macarenses Angle. I don't care about NPC's, Lore or whatever someone might miss there. I love that Place. So why not make there Apartments? Yeah it is under Water and we can breath under Water (only God knows why). And we don't need there NPC's or whatever. Plain and simple 2 Room Aparments with a Balcony. Emet invited us to the Macarenses Angle, why waste a Place like that? I am sure that I am not the only one who wants to live there.

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Because

a), the city is fake, and there are no real apartments there at all - they're just mostly fake buildings Emet made with a few facilities to show what things were like 12000 years ago. The place is just a very fancy glamour he laid over the ruins of the real thing like a tablecloth.
b) He only created the place to prove a point to you about how great his civilization was at it's height (and because he was lost in his grief of losing said civilization), it was never meant to be an actual functioning city.
And c) the guy who created it is now dead (well, Emet is in the Lifestream sleeping but there is basically no distinction ;)).

I mean, there is nothing stopping SE adding more Amaurotine inspired furnishings and housing components to make your house/FC chambers/apartment resemble Amaurot 12000 years ago (there is already the distintinctive Amaurotine wall lamps available), but an actual Amaurot

residential area for players is about as likely as FFXIV 1.0 being restored I'm sorry to say.

Well first we need to create a transdimensional moving company to get all our crap from the other housing areas over to the first shard.