Echo Drops still working in palace?

I noticed Echo Drops doesn't work anymore in duties (e.g., Amon's sleep), I wonder, is that still usable in potd/hoh?

Should work on any 'silence' related negative status that has that little blue/white bar on the top of it. That little bar means it can be dispelled with esuna or medicine.

Echo Drops specifically cure silence - not sleep and not any Esuna-curable status, although it probably does need to be marked-as-curable Silence.

I do wish they were more usable outside of Palace... but as people have said it needs to actually be cleansable. So, a Silence icon on its own cannot be cleansed, but a silence icon with a white bar on the top can. Usually folks just have the healer take care of it since it's usually not worth having a DPS waste a GCD on it.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

I do wish they were more usable outside of Palace... but as people have said it needs to actually be cleansable. So, a Silence icon on its own cannot be cleansed, but a silence icon with a white bar on the top can. Usually folks just have the healer take care of it since it's usually not worth having a DPS waste a GCD on it.

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If a caster is silenced, then that caster wouldn't be able to use any GCDs while silenced anyway, so they absolutely should Echo Drops themselves if they're affected by a removable silence unless they're a RDM who just happens to get silenced at the exact moment that they're ready for a melee combo or in the middle of one.

Last time I ran PotD (last month) Echo Drops still worked (are are absolutely necessary for any healer there)

I keep Echo Drops and Spine Drops on me at all times and they're very handy.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

If a caster is silenced, then that caster wouldn't be able to use any GCDs while silenced anyway, so they absolutely should Echo Drops themselves if they're affected by a removable silence unless they're a RDM who just happens to get silenced at the exact moment that they're ready for a melee combo or in the middle of one.

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Fair, I was kinda saying why medicine in general isn't used (for example you never see people using spine drops for paralyze or antidotes for poison.) In this specific example yeah, it can be better to remove it yourself... though that said I can't actually think of many cleansable silences outside of PotD.

What made me wonder, is when Amon sleeping the ally, in the near past Echo Drops did remove the status, but today it doesn't anymore. Hidden change maybe.

Edit: echo drops won't works anymore even in the guildhests. Witnessed in the one you have to kill the Sylphie at the end.

RIP Echo Drops. potd only it seems.

Echo Drops work just fine on any Silence debuff with the white bar at the top indicating it can be cleansed in some manner. If it doesn't have the white bar, then they aren't going to work.

I have never seen them able to cure Sleep in 5 years of playing. Amon's fight has an attack that will Silence everyone. That can be cured by Echo Drops as I've cured myself as healer at that point.

I was racking my brains to think when Amon ever cast a sleep or silence spell anyway... do you guys not bother killing the slimes? Why wouldn't you? They practically melt as soon as you look at them.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I was racking my brains to think when Amon ever cast a sleep or silence spell anyway... do you guys not bother killing the slimes? Why wouldn't you? They practically melt as soon as you look at them.

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Had plenty of raids that don't bother with adds at all in that fight and more than once recently have wiped to there being no ice to hide behind.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

...Amon's fight has an attack that will Silence everyone. That can be cured by Echo Drops...

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That's no more. Try do that today, the potion is locked now. At least in my hotbar. Didn't tried to use a macro for it, 'tho.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

That's no more. Try do that today, the potion is locked now. At least in my hotbar. Didn't tried to use a macro for it, 'tho.

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It... shouldn't be? If the option is grayed out did you perhaps put them in your saddlebag or something? It still lets me try to use any potion even if they're useless.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I was racking my brains to think when Amon ever cast a sleep or silence spell anyway... do you guys not bother killing the slimes? Why wouldn't you? They practically melt as soon as you look at them.

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You’re asking for a lot to ask people to kill the adds and not just burn the boss. The silences tend to go off quite often in a lot of the Syrcus runs in in because people ignore the slimes.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

You’re asking for a lot to ask people to kill the adds and not just burn the boss. The silences tend to go off quite often in a lot of the Syrcus runs in in because people ignore the slimes.

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Put it down to cultural (or at least data-centre) differences then. We always kill the slimes and they die quickly. I've never seen sleep or silence spells go off in that battle - I only remembered it could happen from reading a guide.

We do get the occasional wipes when people smash the ice pillars, but that's a learning curve and a bit of luck regarding who gets to play the toad. It doesn't happen a second time in the same run.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Put it down to cultural (or at least data-centre) differences then. We always kill the slimes and they die quickly. I've never seen sleep or silence spells go off in that battle - I only remembered it could happen from reading a guide.

We do get the occasional wipes when people smash the ice pillars, but that's a learning curve and a bit of luck regarding who gets to play the toad. It doesn't happen a second time in the same run.

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I’d definitely agree on it being data center differences. I’ve always heard JP respects mechanics more, where as NA is super hung up on the “burn the boss” mentality. I can’t say I’ve seen Sleep happen in Amon, but the silence happens quite a bit.

I’ve only had one wipe recently to people burning the ice while a frog. It was more amusing than anything else though. But the ignoring slimes thing (and really, adds in most older 24-mans) is staggeringly common.

I bought some of these when I played some ptod for fun and keep them around. Amazing as a healer being able to cure your silence mid fight.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

It... shouldn't be?

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They are now working again! YAY!