Blu spells

So I've been leveling Blu and actually enjoying it for the most part.

That is until having to group up in Dragons Neck to get two spells Snort and 4 ton weight.

I'd like to know how in the world did people get these two spells. Had three different PF up yesterday and no dice on any. I don't see how all BLU could make this happen with the 100% learn rate.

We tried and failed many times. couldn't even get the bosses hp to 50% before wipe.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Oh and I have all the spells you can get up to that point via blu spell list on google

If people can clear savage content, they can probably clear the Dragons Neck... you are probably not very lucky.
Maybe a lack of coordination? (like deciding on who are the 2 BLU that will be tanking)
Check if you can do a party with your FC.

I tried asking fc but no one on at the time had blu either unlocked or at level 50. Also, on one of the many attempts we tried having a tank and could not hold agro at all. IN no way can you compare this to savage, you don't have standard rotations and rage check nadda. Also, very weak dps to boot

I did them with a couple 80's and we took turns gettting the spells. No idea how a blue party would fare doing it.
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Originally Posted by Jimmymagic

I tried asking fc but no one on at the time had blu either unlocked or at level 50. Also, on one of the many attempts we tried having a tank and could not hold agro at all. IN no way can you compare this to savage, you don't have standard rotations and rage check nadda. Also, very weak dps to boot

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People have cleared a12s with all blue mages though.

Dragon's Neck has been one of the harder ones I've noticed for most groups. I've been taking my friends unsynced and just running it on repeat until they get it which made it way better

I successfully cleared Dragon's Neck and got 4-tonze weight but not snort. I am not sure why. The one I've had trouble with in synced groups is Shiva. In many of my attempts there has only been one tank which isn't really workable synced, since she stacks debuffs on the main tank that a second tank is supposed to take her so they drop off the first tank.

Snort requires some significant wait time, when I learned it recently. Specific conditions and all that. At least, we assumed as much, and it eventually paid off. Biggest problem is just that there's loads of extra random excess damage going out everywhere. Helps a ton to have a healer with shields or regens.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I successfully cleared Dragon's Neck and got 4-tonze weight but not snort. I am not sure why. The one I've had trouble with in synced groups is Shiva. In many of my attempts there has only been one tank which isn't really workable synced, since she stacks debuffs on the main tank that a second tank is supposed to take her so they drop off the first tank.

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You could actually Solo Tank Shiva Ex back in the ARR days, the burn just needs to be there, which is a non-issue for BLU. The only issue of BLU solo tanking is a lack of mitigation options available. You have Diamondback but that just doesn't work for Shiva as she has plenty of mechanics that place Vuln stacks on you and while you could get away with maybe 1 Stack, more than that is just not possible, not to mention a missed timed Diamondback can quickly lead to your death, such as if i falls off just as she goes into Bow and you die to Glass Dance (seen this happen WAY too many times earning my own Glass Dance that I wanted to cry)

It CAN be done but I don't think its worth the hassle honestly.

this fight is challenging on synced blu, but it is clearable
I cleared in on the 3rd pulls tho, first pull is wiped by snorted out of arena (yes all of us does snorted out of arena), 2nd pull by too many dead imps (and the rest is snorted as well), then 3rd pulls clear flawlessly

Mind telling us why your group wiped ?
we might have some insight if you do...

could it because of too many snorted out of arena ?
or too many imps can't transform back to (whatever race they initially is) ?
enmity jumps everywhere ?
not enough dps ?
not enough healing ?
not enough mitigation ?
dead body everywhere ?

When i did Dragon's Neck recently the main problem was that only me and one other player had White Wind. So if both of us got Imped, we would wipe. Still, it requires some coordination, while anyone can WW, you still need someone to tank hits. So if/when your dedicated tank gets imped, someone should pop MG and get aggro from Ultros. Also the only unique spell in this Trial is 4-tonze weight. You can learn Snort and Aqua breath from Carnivale 20. And Aqua Breath is available from Levi as well.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I successfully cleared Dragon's Neck and got 4-tonze weight but not snort. I am not sure why. The one I've had trouble with in synced groups is Shiva. In many of my attempts there has only been one tank which isn't really workable synced, since she stacks debuffs on the main tank that a second tank is supposed to take her so they drop off the first tank.

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To get Snort you need to kill Ultros first.
Typhoon will also do an AOE snort - that's the spell you want to see. Snort comes out very late in the fight and even when going in with low DPS, usually you will have to stop DPSing to see Snort.

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

To get Snort you need to kill Ultros first.
Typhoon will also do an AOE snort - that's the spell you want to see. Snort comes out very late in the fight and even when going in with low DPS, usually you will have to stop DPSing to see Snort.

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Pretty sure Ultros wasn't dead when Ty used Snort, the time I learned it.

Snort DOES come VERY late in the fight, though, well after the second spinning fungah. It's all-too easy to kill the pair before Ty ever uses it.

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Originally Posted by Kokonji

this fight is challenging on synced blu, but it is clearable
I cleared in on the 3rd pulls tho, first pull is wiped by snorted out of arena (yes all of us does snorted out of arena), 2nd pull by too many dead imps (and the rest is snorted as well), then 3rd pulls clear flawlessly

Mind telling us why your group wiped ?
we might have some insight if you do...

could it because of too many snorted out of arena ?
or too many imps can't transform back to (whatever race they initially is) ?
enmity jumps everywhere ?
not enough dps ?
not enough healing ?
not enough mitigation ?
dead body everywhere ?

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well mostly dps was terrible just about everyone was turned into imp and then snorted off the platform = wipe
and agro was everywhere. we tried adjusting by having two tanks but that didn't work and also everyone had white wind to my knowledge it was spammed a lot.

I learned snort in the Carnival
That's an alternative way to get that one at least... haven't tried for 4 tonze weight yet though

Keep them separated with two tanks. The players that get turned into imps will need to have Ultros do the aqua breath attack on them for the buff, then have them hit Typhoon with it when he goes to the middle and casts. The rest is just dodging. It's a pretty easy fight. There are videos for the fight as well if you want to see the mechanics done properly.

Nowadays you don't even need to do the imp punch on typhon thing. They nerfed the heck out of that fight and as long as you stand in the middle of the platform when he snorts, no one should get knocked off. Even with 8 BLU's, if you're wiping in that fight it is because you are completely disregarding the mechanics of the fight. Stand in the middle when he does the big charge up snort, rotate with ultros when he does the rotating snort, and stay in the center and keep moving forward when he does the repeated snort. Nobody should be wasting time attacking Typhon except the person tanking him, since he will give his HP to Ultros throughout the fight and doesn't really need to be dps'd down at all.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Pretty sure Ultros wasn't dead when Ty used Snort, the time I learned it.

Snort DOES come VERY late in the fight, though, well after the second spinning fungah. It's all-too easy to kill the pair before Ty ever uses it.

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Apologies, I must have been misinformed.