FFXIV for Google Stadia Any Plans [Dev Request]

While streaming video games is going to be hit or miss across North America for at least another 10 years or more, where it works has been epic. I've been streaming FFXIV since June 2019 and now testing Stadia out, from Texas it runs perfectly in the browser (still some slight issues on chromecast ultra)

That all being said, playing Destiny 2 on Stadia with how fast it loads and how good it looks, makes me hope we can see FFXIV on Stadia at some point in the future.

With the FFXIV coming to Xbox, Project XCloud could end up bringing this to more devices and Stadia could also help with that as well and remove the concept of "console limitations" in the future.

Anyway, thanks for all the hard work you do. :)

I cannot imagine playing this game on a streaming service. I get hit by aoes I'm not in even now!

Yoshi said that they did look into it but latency is their biggest concern. If they can overcome that, they will revisit it.

It doesn't matter where you are after the cast bar ends. You could be in another dimension. If you were in the AoE end of cast you take damage.

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It doesn't matter where you are after the cast bar ends. You could be in another dimension. If you were in the AoE end of cast you take damage.

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I wouldn't have wasted my time typing it if it wasn't apparent some people were unaware.

Stadia port coming just as soon as they finish the Ouya port lol

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I wouldn't have wasted my time typing it if it wasn't apparent some people were unaware.

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Lord almighty... It was a joke.

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At the UK London Fan Gathering Yoshi appeared to say they were at this very minute making plans with regards to other platforms. PS5 looks likely from what we could tell from the translation but I dont think Stadia was mentioned. I'd certainly give it a go on there though.

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PS5 looks likely from what we could tell from the translation

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I think that's a given from the time they bothered even making a PS3 port with full cross play with PC. I would be surprised if they don't support a future PlayStation platform assuming FFXIV is still going strong.

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It doesn't matter where you are after the cast bar ends. You could be in another dimension. If you were in the AoE end of cast you take damage.

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I've run out of an AoE marker, and THEN it disappears and then 0.5-1 second later, take damage from the attack.

Especially on Titan.

Titan loves to cheat. Get out of his AoE WHILE IT IS STILL VISIBLE and still end up flying off the edge.

Given how they've already had to literally rework jobs from the ground up because of the latency issues that exist in the base game as it is, I have little faith a streaming FF14 would work all that well.

If you've read any reviews on Stadia, then you'll find it's likely a hard no for XIV. The lag is insufferable over anything but a premium wired connection. Just my opinion but Stadia will be shuttered within a couple years or less anyways

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I've run out of an AoE marker, and THEN it disappears and then 0.5-1 second later, take damage from the attack.

Especially on Titan.

Titan loves to cheat. Get out of his AoE WHILE IT IS STILL VISIBLE and still end up flying off the edge.

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Despite the marketers trying to sell us their services and telling us (again) that this time it is for real, that the future of gaming is here, seeing how Youtube has sometimes a hard time sending me a plain video in low quality, i kinda doubt that Stadia will send me flawlessly a generated on the fly 1920*1080 stream on top of having no latency problems with all the keybords and mouse inputs.

What else was the revolution of gaming not so long ago ? Oh yes i remember, VR headsets XD

I think I said this already, but every man in the middle is a bad thing. I use a Personal Computer for a reason, not a workstation dependend on a mainframe/master server.
Another problem: Legal stuff. Look, imagine you get banned from Stadia for whatever reason (mind: You have a contract with them), you lose your access to this particular Square Enix product. Why would you want to have another contract in the middle?

I hate that already with Steam. Normally, it should be CUSTOMER <-> GAME DEVELOPER.
Now it's CUSTOMER <-> STEAM <-> GAME DEVELOPER.

I am using a wired connection and it's 99.9% reliable. But I would never want that not for the connection, but for another company grabbing my wallet, bringing their own technical problems, possible downtimes, licenses and legal jibber-jabber, etc. with them. No, thanks.

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Despite the marketers trying to sell us their services and telling us (again) that this time it is for real, that the future of gaming is here, seeing how Youtube has sometimes a hard time sending me a plain video in low quality, i kinda doubt that Stadia will send me flawlessly a generated on the fly 1920*1080 stream on top of having no latency problems with all the keybords and mouse inputs.

What else was the revolution of gaming not so long ago ? Oh yes i remember, VR headsets XD

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I would never play 2d ever again if there were more "big" VR titles out. It really did revolutionize gaming for me at least. Most of my friends too. Problem is, not many people are willing to spend big money on a AAA title when they dont know how well it'll sell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My video streaming is amazing, too. I stream movies in 4k with almost no problems, ever. Though there is definitely a delay when I am gaming and streaming to my tv from my pc. Almost a 4th of a second delay. It looks good, sure, but unless you are playing turn based games...Avoid streaming games at all cost lol.

Lmao I would not want this game on Stadia.

It already has enough issues working with games as simple as Samurai Shodown, and that's just a simple 1v1 fighter.

Stadia is a nice concept but if they have to develop for the lowest common denominator it means we're going to have "Stadia limitation" memes instead of Ps4 ones.

Here's the obligatory reminder that Stadia is a Google project and as such it's safe to assume it will be quietly abandoned by... I'll give it Q2 of next year, and officially shut down a year or two down the line.

Because Google.

They will most likely continue to iterate upon the underlying technology because despite Stadia's flop, streaming still has a lot of potential in non-gaming applications, but I certainly hope nobody was naive enough to buy into the early adopter programme.

Never could see this game streaming not till they fix server tick issue to it. Where game will thick your standing in AOE when first shows up and run out of it or never was standing in it and still get hit by it. Every area would need to first have super high speed internet. I know where I live fastest is 5mb for internet.

From the sounds of it Google Stadia is having a rocky start with people.

If cloud gaming is for you, I’d probably recommend Shadow if it’s available where you are. They are the best I’ve come across, I decided to give it a go when I was worried my PC was gonna die on me.

Latency is the big issue these services suffer from. Shadow’s infrastructure is built to reduce the latency as much as they possibly can on their end so that it is barely noticeable. And you’d be able to play FFXIV straight out of the box because they provide a full desktop experience. Although they are more expensive they are introducing new pricing tiers in Feb to offer cheaper options. From what I am seeing of Stadia so far, if you are in the niche that would make use of such a service, Shadow is probably worth it. Plus, as it is a full desktop experience, if say, SE did release a Stadia version of the game, you’d have to pay for the game again (and given the pricing of current titles on Stadia, they’re not good value, which I know is one complaint). Whereas you wouldn’t with Shadow.

The only probable I had with it is that I don’t think my PC gets along with their software, I used to get audio problems (like you might expect with poor decoding) that I didn’t get on my iPad or Android phone. But I saw plenty of people on YouTube not experiencing it.

Of course early days for Stadia, they could get better, but versus competition, there is the risk it’d go the way of Google Plus and some of their other projects. Hopefully they’ll iron out the problems, though it surprises me given if anybody has the infrastructure to make something like this work, it’s Google.

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I've run out of an AoE marker, and THEN it disappears and then 0.5-1 second later, take damage from the attack.

Especially on Titan.

Titan loves to cheat. Get out of his AoE WHILE IT IS STILL VISIBLE and still end up flying off the edge.

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you just still don't know how the game works, if you stand in bad when the cast finishes, you get hit.

1) Stadia is complete garbage
2) Google is complete garbage too for trying to advertise it as a 4k 60fps platform, putting games on it that are not actually 4k 60fps products, and then blaming the developers for it

SE has better things to do with their time than try to make this game work on it. Let them stick to supporting the dozen or so Tomb Raider games that are on it for the dozen or so people that might actually still be using a Stadia within a year's time.

I rather not it happens, alot of people will disconnect or drop in dungeons or raids trying this junk out, no thank you, i rather people have a good connection than wasting other peoples time.

It could work for non-battle contents like crafting, fishing and gathering. But how is subscription going to work here though, double dip from google and se ?

Cloud gaming can/does work well, but it's dependant on a lot of factors. I've personally used Parsec and Rainway for FFXIV and it's worked well enough for all aspects of the game I play. (Crafting, gathering, dungeons, alliance raids). But I'm also situated in an ideal location to make use of cloud gaming. I live relatively close to my datacenter (Southern California) and I work close to home. Something like Parsec only adds about 30ms to my gameplay which is still more than playable.

While I don't doubt that the compute clusters Google has will have any problem playing the game and encoding a video/audio stream to the client, network factors will be more of a big deal, especially if the person in question has a poor internet connection in general.

Google Stadia is a joke. Sure some like it for the very "few" good features it has but other then that i would never waste money on it.
Not to mention it will depend on players connection, this game is more forgiveable to some extent for those with a somewhat slower connection.
Stadia is not the case so SE would never go that route

Companies tried "streaming for games" in the past and it failed horribly.
Google Stadia will fail horribly as well, no matter how much money Google is going to throw against it.


The majority of internet connections are not suited for this kind of gameplay.
They're either unstable or capped on data-limits. I really don't want to see the cost of people with limits, or people raging cause the stream cuts out every 10 seconds because the line cannot handle it.
Not to mention the requirements on bandwidth...


So far I haven't seen a single positive experience with any of these "streaming services"
Only promises they will address the concerns raised.
Till they show it's actually possible to play online games without above mentioned issues, it simply isn't worth it.


The other main concern I have is the availability, accessibility of the games being offered.
Subscription fees to play certain games at certain periods?
When I buy a game, it's to keep it, and play it when I want, not when Google feels like it.
What if Internet cuts out? How do I get to play then?

Stadia runs great, but it's not for everyone and streaming isn't for everyone just yet. I don't know if they plan to port FFXIV to it, but it would be awesome as Cloud gaming could really benefit MMOs. :)

Honestly I hope SE waits to see how Stadia will work - as in stay around. I fully expect Google to abandon it in 1-2 years like they do most other initiatives they put in place. I'd hate for SE to devote any resources to it for Google to just say "whoops nevermind".

Also streaming games, while perhaps in the future will be the thing, right now there are not many places that have the infrastructure to actually make this kind of service reliable. Not to mention people have data-caps and such on their plans. Until ISPs want to actually invest in their network capabilities, Stadia and the like are going to be only for a very niche market in the right geographic locations.

Might wanna wait at least 1 year to see if it even survives or google just abandon it.

A lot of the reviews I've seen say its playable to awful, depending on the game. Some games have levels of input lag that are awful.

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A lot of the reviews I've seen say its playable to awful, depending on the game. Some games have levels of input lag that are awful.

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On my end, it actually ran pretty well. I played Samurai Shodown and Destiny 2 and I didn't feel any input lag at all. I was able to parry and dodge attacks on Samurai Shodown without issues. I didn't experience that horrible input lag like how some reviews are showing. But that's probably because I have 1gbps speed and the nearest google DC to me is like a 30min drive. so if that's what it needs to run well, then they shouldn't have marketed it as if it's something that everyone can use. And the launch and how they handled feedback was a complete fiasco.

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On my end, it actually ran pretty well. I played Samurai Shodown and Destiny 2 and I didn't feel any input lag at all. I was able to parry and dodge attacks on Samurai Shodown without issues. I didn't experience that horrible input lag like how some reviews are showing. But that's probably because I have 1gbps speed and the nearest google DC to me is like a 30min drive. so if that's what it needs to run well, then they shouldn't have marketed it as if it's something that everyone can use. And the launch and how they handled feedback was a complete fiasco.

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One of the reviewers tested it on both 1gbps Google Fiber (lol) and a 100/100 commercial line, and had issues with a lot of games (Steve from GN).

Bandwidth is only one of a few factors, the others being latency, datacenter availability, and the actual host computers/servers.

I'm sure Stadia would be great in my city. We've got some corporate Google buildings and multiple data centers from other companies as well. A simple h264 or h265 stream isn't gonna eat a ton of bandwidth at ~1080p, but I'd imagine that having a good connection to one of Google's datacenters where they host Standia connections will be the biggest factor.

I'll probably stick to using Parsec and hosting on my own computer for the time being. The game is plenty playable on my 10Mbps upload connection, even if it gets a bit pixelated at times.