Don't know what to do.

My Ps4 recently died and I'm in the market for something new. I dunno what'll play better for XIV.. buying another PS4 pro with a new tv.. OR saying buck it and buying this laptop. I say laptop because my funds are limited to pretty much 800 bucks. Still got bills to pay.. but here is the laptop. I need help choosing.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g3...?skuId=6350872

vs just buying a PS4 pro.

I mean, I couldn't imagine playing this game on a console. However...if you do go laptop, you'll have to buy the game license for the PC version. Your PS4 license only lets you play on a PS4, not PC.

If it's solely for ff14 then maybe buying PS4 pro and investing in a SSD (they are cheap and easily installable in a PS4) would be good choice.

For 700$ you could build a really nice desktop that will play your game in 90+ fps and you still will be able to play it with controller without problems.
Something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szwHzN
Also need to keep in mind that once you switch platforms you have to buy FFXIV once again for that certain platform.

Just buy a PS4 pro and a SSD along with it, so FFXIV load times will be faster. (PS4 Pro makes it much easier to swap out SSDs. It takes like 5 minutes to do.) If you buy a laptop you’ll need to buy the PC licenses, and that includes expansions. Keep in mind that PS5 is coming out around November - December2020. PS5 will also have a Ryzen + ray tracing + SSD according to rumors.

So, either wait for that to come out and wait for Yoshida to add FFXIV to ps5, or just get a PS4 pro now. Plus laptops aren’t really as optimal as an actual desktop.

This is harder then it needs to be. Well a few points out the way I forgot to mention. If I go laptop I did have a plan for the rebuying everything again. I took that into mind before asking, but that's on me for not mentioning it. I seriously was thinking about it but for some reason didn't jot that down also. The other thing is I was debating on where a PS4 pro sits between that laptop or a desktop. No matter what I do by the way I'm spending pretty much 800 bucks either way as I have to buy a new tv if I get another PS4 pro. So sadly it's not just a PS4 pro vs that laptop.. it's more like the PS4 pro plus a tv vs just getting that laptop with the game plus a controller cause I can't play on M&KB.. I just can't.

I dunno if that makes it better but yeah. Also.... I wish I could wait til PS5 but that's a YEAR.... I'm already having withdraws and it's just been a WEEK. Yeah.. video games are my life... I can't wait longer then I'm waiting now. And I just have to wait 5 days lol. A year would kill me. So this is why I'm lost on either the laptop or the PS4 pro.. I'm shocked the playstation seems to be winning. Figured people would pick the laptop xD.

But with those details spelled out.. does any of you guys choices change os am I just better off buying the PS4 Pro?

Personally I'd go with the PS4 if you're not really a PC gamer anyway, it also means buying a new TV for what ever reason you had so at least you get that out of the way as well, and you get to keep all of your PS4 games that you couldn't play again if you get a laptop, saying that though, if you don't care for any of your games and aren't particularly bothered about getting a new TV, then the laptop seems quite good for what you'd be paying.

Dont buy a laptop, its a junk in 90% of times and you really have to know the insides outs to choose a proper one. The one you have choose is not really that good and will not last you for long. I had 3 gaming laptops that i bought from a good shop and they just died because of poor design.
Ps4 has terrible exhaust solution causing overheating of the components it does not live long enough either.
Also trust me i have ps4 pro and i wasnt too happy due to the fps dropping below 50 on it in ffxiv which has a big impact on my job.
Get yourself a good desktop, build it yourself, you will thank me later and it will allow you to play any mmorpg you want since a ton of them are not available on console.
You will be able to plug in two monitor screens and play game on one and do something else on another when for example you craft something or gather.
It will cost you more but its worth it.

Just get a PS4 pro. There are plenty of sales on right now where ever you are in the world. It will also be the easiest option for you to just carry on as usual without needing to buy extra game licences.

The risk to bear in mind with gaming laptops is their hardware ages and becomes outdated quicker, it's harder to upgrade parts and upgrades can be limited. Gaming laptops don't always last, depending on what you get because they can generate a lot of heat, which can affect the life of parts. So I usually err caution when it comes to gaming laptops. Plus laptops spec for spec are more expensive.

Nowadays I have a desktop computer, the nicest thing is they're easy to upgrade when something does break or you need new specs. Recently my HDD was on its way out and suffering heavily, it didn't take much to fit a new one and clone my old one onto it.

But really, it depends on what works for you, if you're not much of a PC gamer, the PS4 might be more economical over a gaming laptop or PC and can take some of the hassle away you might get with a PC.

I used to play this game four years with PS4, then it died and was time to upgrade my desktop because that was dying as well. But it is true you have to buy the lisence again (cheaper at some places) but the graphics and game experience has been better on PC. Even I am still stuck with a controller...

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Originally Posted by Raltar

I mean, I couldn't imagine playing this game on a console.

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This game is built for controller play and not very graphics intensive; I'm on a normal PS4 and I do Savage content.

Anyway Black Friday is in a little over a week so there will definitely be plenty on sale. Looking on garage sale sites can also net you a deal; friend got a barely used PS4 for $200 with several games.

Don't know about all the console licenses and everything. But a trash laptop at that price range isn't going to be that great for gaming, especially going into next gen. More convenient, yes. but if you want a laptop that will last, and still be decent, you will probably want to spend double that. At that price range, you would be better off building a PC (desktop), or buying a prebuilt - if you do not have the experience.

However, if FFXIV is the only game you plan on playing a laptop at that price range is probably "good enough".

I've had the same laptop for 3 years and it runs the game max settings like a champ. I cant even begin to imagine playing this game on console comfortably, plus computers have more use if you're just worried about ffxiv and no other games.

Im not sure how good other brands are, but mine is an msi and it runs pretty much any game beautifully. Ps4 pro is kind of a waste of money imo.

PS4 pro. I was om the same boat as you and I went with both. I play ffxiv exclusively om the PS4 now.

If your only gaming interest is FF14, just stick with PS4 and consider a Pro.

If you want to venture out onto other MMO's, consider a PC.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

The risk to bear in mind with gaming laptops is their hardware ages and becomes outdated quicker, it's harder to upgrade parts and upgrades can be limited. Gaming laptops don't always last, depending on what you get because they can generate a lot of heat, which can affect the life of parts. [...]

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Well, if she had a computer she could've changed that part instead of throwing away the console as a whole. And this "heat generation" is a myth I hear since ages. Laptops - especially gaming laptops - are designed for those higher temperatures. Less voltages, quicker throttling and mobile parts are engineered for a reason. Also, the temperature threshold for CPU are often 100°C and above and then the lifespan of the part is long enough to survive for several years even when lowered. Disks like it when it's warmer actually.

I ran the original version of the game on a GTX670. Granted, it was 1080p, but I had stable 60 fps. That was 2012 hardware. I am sure any "normal" mobile GPU can handle this game on a satisfying level on a budget system.

Go Ps4 Helluuuuu

Played on PS3 - PS4 - PC in that order. game loads so much faster on PC. but i prefer playing with a gamepad rather than mouse and keyboard.
So much easier, neater and faster in my own opinion.

With the next generation of consoles around the corner, as they are, it might be smarter to invest in a decent desktop PC and start playing games on that - You can always upgrade it later, the PS4 pro though? Nope, best you can hope for it to sell it at a loss and get the next generation console along.

Trust me, now is a good time to get in to PC gaming especially with black friday coming up. It'll take you like...40 minutes of research for how to build a PC, its commonly referred to as "Lego for adults" for a reason, its so deceptively simple.

So yea...If i were you, i'd build a desktop PC and start playing games on PC - You then have the option of many different controllers including both playstation and xbox controllers, and keyaboard and mouse, and games are typically cheaper on PC, and you can upgrade it when your performance in games starts to suffer.
The only real downside is that yes, you're going to need to buy a new game licence for FF14 for PC.

The answer will depend on your individual needs.

If you don't usually game on anything other then console, then buying a gaming PC might not work out cost effective. You will also have to buy XIV and its expansions on the PC again and register them to your account, so take that into consideration.
But with a gaming PC, you have access to steam summer sales (do not buy XIV on steam, just buy its normal PC stand alone edition for the love of Nophica) you can watch netflix etc if you have accounts and of course owning a computer at home is just down right convenient for life, though a laptop really is a downgrade compared to a desktop PC, so perhaps the PS4 Pro is right for you?

Black friday and Boxing day sales will be upon us soon, so you may want to hold out. There are also no interest pay systems depending on your country of origin,
(Afterpay, Certigy, Ezypay. Basically they charge you $4/month to have an account, but NO interest on your purchases usually for 24months+)
I like these systems and instead of paying the minimum, I pay them off over 12 months, that way if there is ever a financial emergency, I am well ahead in my payments. Plus you look good paying it off early.

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Well, if she had a computer she could've changed that part instead of throwing away the console as a whole. And this "heat generation" is a myth I hear since ages. Laptops - especially gaming laptops - are designed for those higher temperatures. Less voltages, quicker throttling and mobile parts are engineered for a reason. Also, the temperature threshold for CPU are often 100°C and above and then the lifespan of the part is long enough to survive for several years even when lowered. Disks like it when it's warmer actually.

I ran the original version of the game on a GTX670. Granted, it was 1080p, but I had stable 60 fps. That was 2012 hardware. I am sure any "normal" mobile GPU can handle this game on a satisfying level on a budget system.

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Actually they are not.
The gpu and cpu chip will not kill the laptop, but the quality of a solder and power supply units on the motherboard which is always lackluster in those "cheap" laptops.
The heat and always changing temperatures to the extremes is the most common reason why these gaming laptops doesnt work that well.
The cooling solution used in laptops just cannot cool it fast enough, temperatures are being spread around the motherboard streching components and solders back and forth thanks to the temperature differentials on the motherboard.
This thing happens in desktops aswell but to the much lower degree thanks to the air circulation in the pc case.
Also because cpu and gpu chips are taking less power it also makes them a lot weaker than their counterparts in desktop, making it more expensive in general.

That laptop has the minimum ram, I'm assuming it's at least a quadcore. Nice score on the processor... It's still too much money for me personally.... that's why i bought a tower this year.