No new haircut yet again. I really need a note for myself to no more trust those Developers. They cannot hold a proper promise.
Funny,they say they're going adding newest haircut after 5.0 on Viera. Look I understand older ones might need adjustments but newer ones c'mon Square Enix. I spend 1800 tokens for fake advertisement.
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11-18-2019, 02:07 AMZarkovitchViera.
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11-18-2019, 02:11 AMVidu
Did we really need a third thread on the front page about this? (Spoiler: No. No, we did not - and it wont help to raise any awarness with the devs if people split up issues into several threads. One big one is much more helpful with that than 100 small ones.)
Also: They never promised that Viera would get all the new hairstyles after 5.0 - as far as I recall they only said they would get more hairstyles later down the line. That people misstook that for "every new hairstyles will be available to Viera" is their own problem.
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11-18-2019, 02:37 AMRasikkoYes we did.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 02:39 AMViduNo, we did not. As I explained: One big thread = more ffective than a lot of small ones. So unless the goal actually is to not to direct the devs intention to this, it would have been better to post in one of the existing threads.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 02:56 AMFirstnameLastname
Gotte get the post counter up someway, eh?
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11-18-2019, 03:30 AMLaylaTsarraThere is a 12 page thread on it already and it's on the first page.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 03:44 AMJowyAtreideshttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Discussion%21Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:03 AMDoozerTo be fair, you probably should've waited to see if Viera could even use it before you bought it yourself.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:13 AMalthenawhmNaw, the WHM 4.0 thread did jack to change anything and it was over 350 pages long.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:25 AMCallinonLarge threads are no guarantee the devs will care what you have to say. It's just the best way to get their attention on something.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:29 AMalthenawhmIn other words, putting it all in one thread does nothing.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:32 AMCallinonWell ok but that's not what I said at all. I said large threads were the best way to get attention on a particular topic. More condensed feedback, less noise.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 05:11 AMhynaku
Best way to get the Devs attention post in the Japanese forums there only ones that matter to them. NA and EU they never listen to. Them never adding any new hair styles to Viera why I changed back to aura and new plan to change to another new race again since SE likes limited races now.
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11-18-2019, 05:32 AMCallinonThat's your choice, but don't pawn off your own responsibility in the decision-making process. You're choosing to keep race changing, no one's making you do that.Quote:
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And as for "only listens to JP" .. we already know that's not true. Direct communication between us and the Japanese dev team is obviously quite limited but that doesn't mean they aren't listening. I'd wager SE has more than a handful of translators working for them; probably one or two on the community team at least? -
11-18-2019, 05:42 AMTheMightyMolluskOn the other hand, multiple threads for the same topic just annoys people, which means the threads fill up with dismissive comments and negativity that don't accomplish anything. And needlessly floods the front page of the forums.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 09:17 AMhynakuThink your lying if they gave a care they would gave updates on ones getting those dx11 errors here instead we just got same copy and paste responses. Tells us of one time they have listen to NA player base and not just JP one?. Getting tired of ones thinking it is ok to not include all races know what that is called when they don't racist which is not allowed.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 09:38 AMTheForceNah I'm living proof that that's not true. At least, it's not true all of the time. I played Destiny 2 at launch, and I remember there was MASSIVE public backlash against a change Bungie made to the Eververse (the real money shop). I will never forget it, literally like the first 5 pages of the forums all had the title "#removeeververse" (proud to say that I was apart of this movement and also made a few of these threads), there were countless Youtube videos about the forums being like this too. And although Bungie didn't outright remove Eververse, they definitely acknowledged that they'd heard us, and they made some really good changes to Eververse.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 10:20 AMTheMightyMolluskThis isn't Destiny 2. It's not the same company. It's not a relevant comparison.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 01:55 PMSenorPattyTo be fair, the large threads are only better by slight margin. A reccuring thing about them is the back and forth slugfest that can go on for dozens of pages before it finally gets back on topic. And if the topic is can't even reach a single common point? That pretty much sends the idea that we don't know what we want.Quote:
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11-18-2019, 02:46 PMCallinonI'm not, but if you'd like to point out a statement I made that was knowingly false with the intention of being deceptive, I'd be interested in seeing thatQuote:
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Oddly specific.Quote:
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Viera are in the game. Do you have any idea how long the NA forums were asking for Viera? Well here ya go.Quote:
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Wut? No seriously.... wut?Quote:
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11-18-2019, 04:39 PMCelefYet someone would still end up being f***** upQuote:
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11-18-2019, 06:01 PMreivaxeThey NEVER promised that Viera would get new hair styles that other races get. They have, a number of times, said that Viera and Hrothgar would get new and unique hair styles at some point. Never said when though, only that it wouldn't come as fast as other hairstyles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarkovitch
No they didn't, stop your lies sad Viera...Quote:
Funny,they say they're going adding newest haircut after 5.0 on Viera.
This is funny because they've been careful to NEVER advertise any head stuff on Viera or Hrothgar that players couldn't use.Quote:
Look I understand older ones might need adjustments but newer ones c'mon Square Enix. I spend 1800 tokens for fake advertisement.
Like, before the team went out of their way to make the gear that does work Yoshi wouldn't let them give NPC Viera something as simple as a monocle/ glasses cause people would go "If this NPC Viera can wear this head gear why can't my Viera??".
They never advertised this with a Viera so it was never fake advertisement. You should know by now that they will likely show you when Viera and Hrothgar can use head stuff unless it looks straight up stupid like that Mog Station cosplay hood.
I like looking at these kinda threads for the lulz but really, you all need to just make one thread. No reason for there to be so many small ones. -
11-18-2019, 07:23 PMYencat
Actually, this is what was translated from a Famitsu interview with Yoshi in regards to Hrothgar and Viera hairstyles:
"Since Hrothgar have hairstyles tied to their character creation options rather than being separately selectable, you will not be able to apply unlockable hairstyles, but they might implement more face types after 5.0. As for Viera, there's some legacy hairstyles they'll able to eventually implement, but not all of them. Some of unlockable hairstyles should be supported, others may not be."
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11-18-2019, 09:16 PMHysterior
The topic is: "Viera".
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11-19-2019, 02:11 AMTheForceThat doesn't really matter. My point was that making a bunch of threads can sometimes bring about change. Whether it's Destiny 2, or WoW, or DC Universe Online means nothing, it's all about what kind of folks the devs are and how they wish to take feedback. To simply say "Devs will only address an issue if it's being talked about in one thread" is just plain false. Wanted to clear that up.Quote:
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11-19-2019, 02:13 AMTheForceThen...how about people just don't feel the threads up with negativity? I'm assuming we're all adults here, you do have a choice when it comes to being kind or unkind.Quote:
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11-19-2019, 04:11 AMTheMightyMolluskOh, you sweet innocent child.Quote:
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11-19-2019, 05:25 AMSelovaSpamming multiple threads on the same topic when there are already mega threads about it is just going to resort to your post getting deleted or it fading into obscurity. The more people that post in one consolidated thread the longer it stays on the front page and shows the developers that we want feedback, not that they are obligated to respond of course. The Male Viera thread and the DF thread are prime examples of this. If you want them to take your feedback seriously, just post in the threads already discussing the topic.Quote:
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