Instances Sharing Progress will fix Ishgard Restoration Crossworld Congestion.

Greetings! I come today to propose this plan to the developer team for fixing future Crossworld Ishgard Restoration concerted works contribution and FATE participation:

My proposition is an instance system in which progress bars for the Ishgard Restoration are shared, and once it has been filled, the FATEs will begin and conclude at the same time- therefore preventing any abuse by changing instance once the FATE ends.

All new content since Stormblood has had instances to prevent congestion, and it would truly be a blessing if it were introduced to the Ishgard Restoration event, alongside a way to synchronize the progress bars and FATE timers in each instance.

The event was originally made for everyone to contribute to, in order to help lower population servers, as well as servers that simply didn't craft as much.

All was working fine and dandy, pardoning congestion. This congestion lead to discord toward the very people that were visiting other servers to help craft alongside them.

"Homeworld vs Wanderer" was an easy target to vent onto, and one that was misdirected and not the cause of the issue, as congestion still occurred without wanderers once the bar filled and the FATE began.

As soon as the change went into effect, it was clear that things were slowed to a crawl, and as earlier mentioned, wouldn't solve the issue of congestion.

Instances with shared progress and synchronized FATEs would fix all of this and more. It would allow crossworld assistance once again with zero issues, and accommodate every player who wishes to take place in the event- whether they be a crafter, a gatherer, or a happy log carrier who doesn't have either leveled, and simply wants to have fun in this lovely game.

I thank you for reviewing this, and thank you for the wonderful game you strive to maintain and improve. Have an excellent day, and safe travels!

No it's fine as it is. You don't need to rush the event. Let the people experience this event in their own pace. Everyone will get there.

Except for the continued congestion once the progress bar fills completely, as well as the pace at which things proceed being at a now slug-like pace.

Even when ignoring the pace at which things complete, congestion will continue to be an issue once the progress bar is full and the FATE scheduled to begin.

That needs a solution, which was one of my primary ambitions in proposing this, as well as proving that crossworld contribution was not the issue.

It is less of a problem than what it was.

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Originally Posted by Duplo

"Homeworld vs Wanderer" was an easy target to vent onto, and one that was misdirected and not the cause of the issue, as congestion still occurred without wanderers once the bar filled and the FATE began.

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No, it doesn't fix the issue of the instance being completely full.

What it does achieve is maximising how many individual people can experience the event.

If world visits are allowed and all instances are filling to capacity, every time someone travels to another world and takes part in an additional instance besides their own, that takes away one spot from one other person.

Blocking world visits prevents this doubling up.

World A will have 300 people from World A. World B will have 300 people from World B.

Whereas with world visits allowed, 50 people from World A could then travel to World B, take 50 spots in that instance, and then only 250 from World B can participate. Multiply by however many worlds are in the data centre.

With a solid cap on numbers and more demand than there are places available, visits can only cause total participation to be reduced.

This is what people were objecting to, and what the ban successfully prevents.

Instanced areas imply multiple instances for multiple people, that means that total participation would be increased, not reduced.

There weren't 900 people trying to join one server, most were still spread out crafting on other servers. That means everyone can join in the crafting and the merriment rather comfortably.

While it is true that maybe 3+ Instances could fill, that's more than was held in the past or the present, and would still benefit everyone.

You also skipped over the fact that the firmament is still being congested once the progress bar fully fills, regardless of there being no crossworld interaction at the moment.

This needs remedying, and instances are the easiest way to handle it, and re-enable crossworld assistance at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Duplo

You didn't read my post. Instanced areas imply multiple instances for multiple people. That means everyone can join in the crafting and the merriment.

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I read your post. I was addressing a specific point within it.

Whether there could have been a better overall solution or not, with the current setup of single instances and strictly limited participation slots, frustration towards wanderers taking multiple turns was not "misdirected". They were - undeniably, mathematically - reducing the overall number of people who could have a turn at participating in a FATE.

Your "solution" of multiple instances with a shared timer also assumes they can in fact implement this system, and simply need to have it suggested to them. They may not be able to.


(And a side note on forum functions: I keep seeing you reply to people without quoting them. Please press "reply with quote" if you're addressing a post not immediately above you. "Reply" does nothing to link your post to the one you are addressing.)

All I want is to suggest an amiable solution to make things accessible and enjoyable for everyone. Yet all I'm met with is cynicism.

Will it require extra coding? Possibly, but these are talented developers, and I know that they care about their game.

And the Wanderers had every right to be there as much as home world players. They were helping to craft and gather as well, as proved by the heightened speed of completion.

And yes, while there were those wanderers who were incapable of contributing, the same applies to the homeworlders who lacked the ability to craft.

All men and women are equal, and undeserving of this prejudice.

If those "helpful wanderers" fully committed themselves to a single visited world and only did FATEs in that world? Sure. They're still one person taking one turn regardless of where they do it.

If they do the FATEs both there and on their home world, no. They are taking multiple turns and preventing someone else from joining in.

Blocking world visits does not mean that no wanderers were genuinely helping.

Blocking visits is not designed to prevent congestion of any sort, only a specific sort.

It simply ensures that people cannot take multiple turns, where each turn takes away someone else's ability to participate at all.

Whether we have one instance, whether we have multiple (that might still all fill), each person can participate in one world's FATEs, not multiple.

And if you're concerned about letting as many people participate as possible, you should be seeing that as a good thing.

Everyone had the ability to world visit to assist others as well as take part in the event. I'm not speaking solely of the past system with its limitations / imperfections and only focusing on the negative aspects it had. I'm focusing on an ideal solution and the possibility of a better future for the event. Congestion will still be an issue with the current system.

You're blind to all reason if you disagree that blocking world visits was put in place to halt congestion. It was never truly about the prejudice and hate people were speaking of "greed" when visiting worlds, seeing as all non crafters from each world, even those that complained in regards to it on their homeworld, did so. That too is only focusing on the negative, not looking for a way to improve it to a positive outcome.

I ask that we simply leave it at an agreement to disagree- as we will never see eye to eye on this matter.

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Originally Posted by Duplo

You're blind to all reason if you disagree that blocking world visits was put in place to halt congestion. It was never truly about the prejudice and hate people were speaking of "greed" when visiting worlds, seeing as all non crafters from each world, even those that complained in regards to it on their homeworld, did so. That too is only focusing on the negative, not looking for a way to improve it to a positive outcome.

I ask that we simply leave it at an agreement to disagree- as we will never see eye to eye on this matter.

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And I would say you're trying to make this all about "prejudice" when it is a simple matter of maximising participation in the current system, where preventing world visits is the surest way to prevent certain people from doing the event multiple times to the detriment of others. Congestion is inevitable, but what changes is who is causing that congestion - and the world-restricted version is fairer.

But as you say, we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Prejudice went both ways sadly, some of each side felt the other at fault. But as the saying goes, you don't judge the tree rotten for one or two bad apples, or the sins of the father being the sins of the son.

I absolutely don't want that to be the focus, or for it to happen at all, but when you brought up greed, that was a direct tie-in.

I just don't want to be judged guilty for another's crime whilst offering a solution, ye know? Even if we don't agree on the solution, I hope that we can agree on this.

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And the Wanderers had every right to be there as much as home world players.

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Nope. All the wanderers I saw were just hopping from world to world, waiting for the FATEs. I saw them standing around doing nothing while waiting for the one on my world. It's greed and nothing more.

Only thing I think they need to change for it. Is have a npc for turning in items outside it and turn the fate into quests like Doman Enclave had at each stage. Then ones wouldn't miss out on it and showing the progress to it.