World Visit has been restricted in Ishgard Restoration

Thank you devs for listening!

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/1d9d1be2c35a2d0d14f19c8a0ca79d0b3c4697f4

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Thank you devs for listening!

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a79d0b3c4697f4

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One of the many reasons this is the best mmo on the market today.

Good. I was sick of the greed of people on other worlds blocking out people trying to do it on their own. That's what you get.

Good.

I was lucky in that I was able to get into all of the fates I was around for as I just bought hundreds of mats and just levelled my carpenter over the last couple of days, but I've had a couple friends locked out of their home servers because of the influx.

I fully support this move.

Good, but the ones who are still inside will probably stay inside now.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

Good, but the ones who are still inside will probably stay inside now.

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I’m not so sure, with no access to their retainers or other content I’m sure it will just be a mater of time till they get bored and leave

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

Good, but the ones who are still inside will probably stay inside now.

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I fail to see a reason why? Still Pixie beast tribe to do as well.They will just be playing themselves at this point.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

Good, but the ones who are still inside will probably stay inside now.

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Luckily there's nothing in there. If they want to AFK for the chance of getting 3 sets of scrips a day, that's on them. But if they want to go and do anything like getting more mats, doing daily beast tribes for the easy experience, or getting gold saucer stuff even once, then that's them.

I don't doubt there will be some staying in there just to be jerks, but that's a level of dedication I think will deter a significant number.

Well that sucks. I enjoyed hopping worlds while helping them craft. Didn’t have a problem getting into the place. It only gets full about 30 minutes before the fate. I mean if you weren’t there crafting in the first place then perhaps you didn’t care for the restoration at all? I’m sure this is temporary until the excitement dies down.

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Originally Posted by LalafellDown

Well that sucks. I enjoyed hopping worlds while helping them craft. Didn’t have a problem getting into the place. It only gets full about 30 minutes before the fate. I mean if you weren’t there crafting in the first place then perhaps you didn’t care for the restoration at all? I’m sure this is temporary until the excitement dies down.

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No, on my sever the fates were happening around the time people were getting home from work, it’s not that they didn’t want to participate.

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Originally Posted by LalafellDown

Well that sucks. I enjoyed hopping worlds while helping them craft. Didn’t have a problem getting into the place. It only gets full about 30 minutes before the fate. I mean if you weren’t there crafting in the first place then perhaps you didn’t care for the restoration at all? I’m sure this is temporary until the excitement dies down.

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It was full on Lamia almost a full hour before it started yesterday.

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Originally Posted by LalafellDown

Well that sucks. I enjoyed hopping worlds while helping them craft. Didn’t have a problem getting into the place. It only gets full about 30 minutes before the fate. I mean if you weren’t there crafting in the first place then perhaps you didn’t care for the restoration at all? I’m sure this is temporary until the excitement dies down.

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People like you are why this was implemented. I got home Tuesday and was unable to even finish the quest. Wednesday I got in and finished it then went it gather the materials I needed, came back and it was full for the rest of the night, but I guess u didn't care about it as much as you right?. Do act like you were there to help with anything when you knew you were locking other out.

Let's be real here it was never about helping lower pop servers why people hopped to other servers.They can claim this "just to help bs" when the fact of the matter is these players just abusing an exploit in the system to their benefit to get them out of doing hard work and earn scrips the normal way.It was a shortcut because they saw mounts and glams and wanted be the 1st to have it to show it off like they were some raider that got a mount from a savage raid.If history taught us one thing about FF14 player base is that players are greedy and will exploit when they can to get what they want (Granted not all players but most).No benefit to helping other servers in their restoration other than your own, it like trying put lipstick on a pig.Those players can keep lying here about it to build a foundation to reverse the restriction but we all including developers are seeing through it.

Place your bets! What will people whine about next? Concerted works happening while they're at work? Not enough people? Find out in under 24 hours!

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Originally Posted by Gula

Place your bets! What will people whine about next? Concerted works happening while they're at work? Not enough people? Find out in under 24 hours!

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Ffs, people weren't "whining", there were legitimate concerns about doing the content properly. If you love something enough, when it does something wrong you ask for help to fix it so it's better for everyone.

Leviathan last night was completely full from the time i got on (7PM) up until like 12:00 in which i was finally able to enter, i guess because people went to bed.
So it is great they did listen

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Ffs, people weren't "whining", there were legitimate concerns about doing the content properly. If you love something enough, when it does something wrong you ask for help to fix it so it's better for everyone.

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Yes they were. There were some legitimate concerns, yes. But. There was plenty of "waaah" level responses as well. Unless you are just that patient and gentle to never see a tantrum as what it is, a tantrum.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Ffs, people weren't "whining", there were legitimate concerns about doing the content properly. If you love something enough, when it does something wrong you ask for help to fix it so it's better for everyone.

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I agree that bringing up the concern was fine and legit, but after Yoshi P replied all the people going “NO CHANGE IT NOW DO IT NOW”! were pushing it.

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

I agree that bringing up the concern was fine and legit, but after Yoshi P replied all the people going “NO CHANGE IT NOW DO IT NOW”! were pushing it.

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True, I personally posted afterwards just to comment that it seemed to get more toxic, but he wasn't going to do it I would have just delt with it.

Ah well. No more being told to get out of peoples servers and <wanderer> only parties anymore. :[

Only real tantrum I see is this

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Originally Posted by Gula

So now that babby has its pacifier, the complaining will stop. Right?

It's always, dev's don't listen! Fire Yoshi P! Then those voices go silent with no sense of apology.

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Seems someone is upset they not gonna be able to get scrips the easy way.

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Originally Posted by Chrisnetika

Seems someone is upset they not gonna be able to get scrips the easy way.

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Nice projection because where in any of my posts do I even allude to that?

I just checked the https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...rogress_report

And I see half of the Crystal Data Center is behind. Now we can see which servers were doing the most hopping. :p

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Originally Posted by Miu-Tiiu

I just checked the https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...rogress_report

And I see half of the Crystal Data Center is behind. Now we can see which servers were doing the most hopping. :p

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It's really just the smaller pop ones in the end that are going to lag behind. Even on the EU end Twintania and Spriggan are both behind, mainly due to the amount of players on them since they're both recent.

Really think in this case the idea I recommended about other worlds being able to send supply kits to the worlds that need it the most are going to be an eventual reality

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Originally Posted by Gula

Yes they were. There were some legitimate concerns, yes. But. There was plenty of "waaah" level responses as well. Unless you are just that patient and gentle to never see a tantrum as what it is, a tantrum.

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The only "waaah" level of complaints I saw were gatherers complaining they had no content to do with Ishgard Restoration.

As a leviathan player, I was on Framfrit server all day helping them out and I don't even care about being locked out , because there are other ways to level. This is a big slap in the face for people helping lower craft servers.

Yes I'm upset

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Originally Posted by Gula

Place your bets! What will people whine about next? Concerted works happening while they're at work? Not enough people? Find out in under 24 hours!

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1/10 troll post. Try adding something constructive once here ...

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Originally Posted by Miu-Tiiu

I just checked the https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...rogress_report

And I see half of the Crystal Data Center is behind. Now we can see which servers were doing the most hopping. :p

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You're not going to see much of anything because the Stage 3 progress bar requires far greater contributions than the stage 1 and 2 bars did. If you look at all worlds, you'll see that almost everyone is showing Stage 3 Works Pending despite a few worlds, like Balmung, having unlocked Stage 3 in the first 24 hours.

If you're expecting some amazing relevation to suddenly show up on the tracker thanks to this change, you're going to be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat

As a leviathan player, I was on Framfrit server all day helping them out and I don't even care about being locked out , because there are other ways to level. This is a big slap in the face for people helping lower craft servers.

Yes I'm upset

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Did Famfrit ask for your help? Did they even need it?

This isn't a big slap in the face to anyone. You get to do the exact same content for the exact same rewards on your home world. You weren't getting anything special by "volunteering" to help a world that didn't ask for and doesn't need your help.

This isn't content that we're intended (or will be able) to rush to completion in a couple of days. The low pop worlds are fine for now. If SE finds that progress on the low pop worlds is falling far behind what they intend, they'll open the Firmament to Wanderers again.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

The only "waaah" level of complaints I saw were gatherers complaining they had no content to do with Ishgard Restoration.

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I think those people just aren't seeing things from a pragmatic standpoint. I believe the lowest level crafter is lv20 to contribute. You can get from 1-20 in less than 30 minutes by just going down the recipe list. And lo, by having gatherers leveled, you would be gathering materials anyway. There. DoH can contribute.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

1/10 troll post. Try adding something constructive once here ...

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Your definition of troll post seems to be "post I don't like." Because it is absolutely the truth, a bitter taste I know.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Place your bets! What will people whine about next? Concerted works happening while they're at work? Not enough people? Find out in under 24 hours!

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That's bait if I ever saw it.

That person was throwing a tantrum in the other thread too, and now talking about their words are the truth.Haha.. some people on here.

Well, that's disappointing. I bet it'll just lead to the place being congested an hour or two in advance - at least on the busier servers.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

That's bait if I ever saw it.

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Bait for discussion? Absolutely.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Well, that's disappointing. I bet it'll just lead to the place being congested an hour or two in advance - at least on the busier servers.

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...? It was often congested 1-2 hours in advance before this change. If it happens again, it'll at least be due to only server natives this time, in which case they can just open instances. A server-wide event should have been server locked to begin with. This content was not meant to be unlocked in a few days, people.

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

...? It was often congested 1-2 hours in advance before this change. If it happens again, it'll at least be due to only server natives this time, in which case they can just open instances. A server-wide event should have been server locked to begin with. This content was not meant to be unlocked in a few days, people.

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Yeah, so the situation isn't likely to change much at all. It's very curious that they chose to adopt this approach despite taking a first come, first served stance for hunts and player housing. Some consistency across the board would be welcome.

It's already been helping. A poster from Malboro in the larger thread on this issue was actually able to participate, along with many others on their server. I can't speak for that yet on mine as it's still progressing in the third stage, but once people start getting off of work/school things will obviously change, but I seriously doubt there will be lock outs. If there is, again, SE will likely implement instances, so I don't see what the issue is. This change was a large net win, no contest.

I enjoyed the thrill of the 'every man for himself' approach. ;)

So, you were part of the problem then. Good to know. :P

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

So, you were part of the problem then. Good to know. :P

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I enjoyed being able to help out other servers with their progress.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I enjoyed the thrill of the 'every man for himself' approach. ;)

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I enjoyed being able to help out other servers with their progress.

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Something about these statements seems incongruent.....