Since I'm just poking in between work and cant login to play, I'm curious as to how the restoration functions exactly.
It seems like a server wide progression, which sounds like it's entirely possible that a good chunk of things will be done before I even get a chance to login. Is this the case?
Are there Concerted Works that are constant which can be participated in no matter how much progress has been made?
Does this mean it will be impossible to see what things looked like when the area was completely untouched?
I can't say I'm a total fan of this system since it appears to be content that can't be repeated in its entirety, and players will miss out on the whole experience due to those rushing through it before others even get a chance. The patch notes didn't really explain it as detailed as I would've liked, so any further explanation is appreciated. Thanks!
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11-13-2019, 02:59 AMAndevomFor those of you doing the Ishgardian Restoration, could you clarify?
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11-13-2019, 03:59 AMEric_Riot
Siren 50% done with Stage one.
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11-13-2019, 04:05 AMCrushnight
I believe it follows Mor Dhona/Idyllyshie route of once done you'll never see previous states, i'll edit in what happens once Gilgamesh is rank 2.
Edit eventually: Gilgamesh just did the 1st fate when wake up see what next step alters if it does
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11-13-2019, 04:38 AMBlindheartThis sounds kind of terrible if it is... I liked the Doman area that you could see each stage as the quest advanced, I would hope that there would be stages locked to individual progression so new players always see the disaster and people who have done the quest see the finished product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
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11-13-2019, 04:51 AMAndevomI find it strange that the devs are concerned about players blitzing through the Main Scenario dungeons so much that they made the cutscenes unskippable...but then implement a system like this. A player could accept the quest to help restore Ishgard...only to see that everything's been built already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
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11-13-2019, 04:56 AMBarraindIts a server effort to rebuild it. If you get there after its rebuilt, there wont be anything to rebuild, but you'll be able to make a lot of stoves or beds!Quote:
A player could accept the quest to help restore Ishgard...only to see that everything's been built already.
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11-13-2019, 05:28 AMAlleo
Well a lot of servers already got one fate done and seemingly the next one is 8 hours later. Other than scrips and exp it does seemingly not give you more (and was disappointing). When the bar is completed you can still turn in all your items and just earn your exp and scrips. Not sure how it will be when the second fate is done but right now seemingly nothing much changed.
Still I dont really like that system. Too many people, fate is over fast and kinda boring and the rest is just custom delivery without an item limit. Doma restauration was also not much but right now I liked that one better because of the atmosphere.
I also wonder if that means that we wont get any cutscenes inbetween? Because if you are doing this later when the part is already completely rebuilt will you be spammed with cutscenes of the NPCs being thankfull for something you have not even done? I really liked the cutscenes in Doma, it would be sad if those are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
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11-13-2019, 05:30 AMNoitems
I don't think I've seen the specific fate yet. Do they give you the mats to craft or does everyone just bolt out and find them on their own?
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11-13-2019, 05:35 AMAlleoNo you have to gather the mats yourself (or buy them at the MB). They could have used fates all over the maps to let us gather the items, instead we just got more gathering nodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noitems
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11-13-2019, 05:36 AMJowyAtreidesI share this concern and I'm not even salty as I've got no crafters to level doing this anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
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11-13-2019, 06:11 AMErendis
Has anyone tried to complete fate as gatherer? Do you also get rewards?
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11-13-2019, 07:04 AMLosara
The Ishgard re-build appears to be script turn ins combined with a separate fate which has you and other players building once enough script turn ins have occurred server wide to fill up the materials gauge to 100%.
For players wanting to get started you will need to gather or purchase the new materials yourself (ignore what NPC says about the materials being provided since that is for the 2nd phase with the fate not the initial script turn in phase). The Ishgard rebuild materials that can be gathered are tradeable so gatherers can make some decent gil (the mats sometimes have multiple items per attempt e.g. 8+ and are quick gatherable) if they prefer that over any of the script reward items. -
11-13-2019, 07:14 AMACE135
What I wonder is, when people want to start in a few months, will the starting quest even be still there as there is nothing left to rebuild?
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11-13-2019, 07:56 AMZazayProbably not. And if it indeed ends like this, then I'm not really in favour of this kind of restoration implementation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACE135
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11-13-2019, 08:14 AMTsukinoFrom what everyone's been saying it sounds like it might not even be there when we get home from work.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACE135
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11-13-2019, 08:23 AMsomethingelfAnd because of the cross-server ability, I can't even get in to finish the opening quest as the fate is going on and it's too congested. Very poorly thought out.Quote:
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11-13-2019, 08:27 AMCanadane
I recorded the fate.
https://youtu.be/opI65ToHhIo
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11-13-2019, 08:41 AMBarraindYeah, the content that has 10+ hour time gating per step and wont fully be implemented for several more months is going to be over this afternoon, you should rush home quickly Mr. Fogg.Quote:
From what everyone's been saying it sounds like it might not even be there when we get home from work.
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11-13-2019, 08:46 AMAngelCheese77
My concern is that it doesn't turn into what happened with building spires and druid rings in EverQuest 2. Servers had so many people doing it, some were done in 3 days. So lots of people never got a chance to participate.
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11-13-2019, 09:23 AMHasratWhen I started playing this game, it took me about 2 years to get to 3.0, playing at my own pace, enjoying all the ARR content available before buying the expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barraind
So what I'm inferring from your sarcasm here is that, had I only recently started playing this game, in fact, yes, this content will be over long before I would have reached the ability to participate.
Personally, I don't make a mad dash to all the latest newest shiniest content. So, bit disappointing to hear that the experience will be intrinsically different for me than it is for everyone jumping in immediately.
On the other hand, it didn't really bother me any to know Mor Dhona was progressively built up (by the devs) to what it is now, and I'll never see what those progression stages were like. So, can't say I'll genuinely be all that put out by this. Ultimately... even if this is the case, maybe for the best. The game could probably stand to have more of these occasional server-wide things for that proper MMO feeling. -
11-13-2019, 09:24 AMFenril7LMAO, the prices have dropped over 1K per hour, the prices are now around 50g each and by tomorrow will be REALLY LOW. Gathering gets NOTHING out of this..... N O T H I N G Thanks for screwing me over SE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Losara
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11-13-2019, 09:25 AMJybril
The fact you can server hop is the true nightmare.
You're locking out people from their own server because of it.
Jebus man lol.
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11-13-2019, 09:59 AMTaleraRistainThis is EXACTLY what I thought of when I first heard about this. You had to live in the game if you wanted even the remotest chance to participate.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelCheese77
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11-13-2019, 10:10 PMAlleoOn top of losing out of that, it will likely be turned into the new housing ward..which then means that most people (if its not instanced) have restored and put work into a zone that they wont be able to even really use. (And this fully ignores the story implications that the first that Ishgard does after the war is to rebuilt a whole zone into something that adventurers can buy..while their own people still hunger, have no houses and would need places to work..) I really wish we would have gotten a instanced zone like the one in Doma and if a certain amount of players had done that, SE would unlock a second zone with housing..Quote:
Originally Posted by Zazay
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11-13-2019, 10:37 PMHasrat
I mean, the opening quest kinda covers that, with Edmont coming in and saying "hey, let's encourage our citizens to become adventurers, and we'll incentivize them with housing."
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11-13-2019, 10:46 PMAlleoI have a big doubt that a lot of the people that are suffering right now can simply just turn into adventurers that are somehow good enough to survive all of it but also get enough Gil to buy a house. Maybe if we got instanced housing with one house being there as a thank you for the WoL, and the rest being there to truly help the people then that would have been great. But the idea that this whole zone and all that work is done so that somehow a part of the people can turn into adventurers and earn enough to stay there. It just sounds bad imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
They could have easily done a whole story about this one and later when its done and the community has been successfull they could have opened up a new zone as housing.