I have been scouring forums for a while trying to dig up any information on level caps as I can, but to no avail. I'm curious if anyone (particularly Square-Enix representatives) has any official information on what sort of level cap increases are ahead, and if they are pre/post 2.0. I've come back recently and seen the game has vastly improved and could possibly be ready for a level increase before 2.0 hits, but there is no word whatsoever on it. If anyone has any info to share on this, official or not, please contribute a post to this topic.
...and maybe if we beg SE enough, we'll get a cap raise before 2.0! :)
Level caps?
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03-26-2012, 11:40 PMOverdriveLevel caps?
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03-26-2012, 11:47 PMSephrick
The only thing they've said about it is that they weren't considering it up to 1.21 because they don't want current players too far ahead of the rerelease/PS3 crowd.
That said, I don't see the point in raising the level cap any time soon. I could understand if leveling were quest-based and more levels meant more story, but we'd be leveling just for the sake of leveling. Leveling in XIV, as in XI, is a very dull experience. -
03-26-2012, 11:52 PMMeatdawg
Just like everything else......
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03-27-2012, 12:42 AMTibian
XIV does not need a level cap increase now, and shouldn't see an increase after 2.0 either. As Sephrick said, the only official mention of level cap was that there were no plans to raise it up to 1.21.
There is no benefit to increasing the level cap right now as it will only hurt the game in the long run. Content needs to be condensed into lower levels with focus on 1-30 and then 30-45. The journey to 50 needs to be much more exciting and filled with diverse things to do.
Raising the level cap only defeats the purpose of all of the work that is being done for 2.0. -
03-27-2012, 12:44 AMMatsume
I forget which Letter from the Producer LIVE video it as that mentioned lvl cap (1.20?) in any case Yoshida clearly mentioned it somewhere along the lines of considering lvl cap raise around 2.0 launch, but I doubt it.
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03-27-2012, 12:45 AMWolfie
Don't need a cap raise yet. The game needs more stuff to do besides only leveling; there's enough of that from level 1 to level 45.
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03-27-2012, 05:18 AMIStolzINo way, adding any pre-50 content is a waste. Lvling is so fast that even new players skip by most of what is there, and there is a good amount. You go to shposhae to get new gear from the coffers and by the time you get a key your high enough lvl to equip something better. You spend some time in the 20s to join a GC and get choco, then get a drop from totorak at 30 next day your equipping the 35 nm drop... next day your equipping a lvl 42 weapon and day after that you're 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibian
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03-27-2012, 06:14 AMTezz_Xivectro
I'd prefer more content & "barancing". If they do raise it, i hope it's not until at least spring~ 2013 or with the 1st expansion.
While it would be nice to see people participate in low level content, i just don't think it will be possible unless people are using Content Finder & leveling through the content (looting along the way). It sounds so typical of most modern MMO's, but i doubt anyone will take interest any other way. -
03-27-2012, 09:30 PMMaxthunderIm sorry quest based leveling no thanks. Let me level in an exp grind, quests are ok but if I have to run here there and everywhere just for 5k exp, no thanks!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephrick
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03-27-2012, 09:32 PMSeirra_Lanzce
i bet even if 2.0 comes out, it wont come til maybe... another year! 2014!
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03-27-2012, 10:16 PMKyra
would be way to much work to increase level caps before 2.0. Think of all the content they would have to add for every single class and now jobs to. No they wont be increaseing level cap untill 2013 when 2.0 has been out for a while. Personaly i dont want to level 50-60 in the same boring maps anyway, would much rather increase my levels on the brand new 2.0 maps.
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03-27-2012, 10:32 PMRojI can assure you sir that we most certainly do not skip anything! How dare you! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by IStolzI
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03-27-2012, 10:39 PMDziankinda exactly why i think levelling is far too fast. need to slow it down alot and make a ton of content to do on the journey.Quote:
Originally Posted by IStolzI
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03-27-2012, 10:45 PMOverdrive
I understand many people don't wish for the cap to raise before 2.0, however I actually made this thread to hopefully gain raw information instead of opinionated reasons why we don't need a cap raise. I see all the disadvantages of pre-2.0 cap raises, but I'd still like to know about when we can expect them even if it won't happen until 2013/2014. I think all the stuff that comes with a cap raise (given from FFXI's experience, an expansion with new jobs and areas to explore along with new content) would make a lot of people happy. I know you can get new jobs/areas/content without raising the cap, but I don't think any of those would have an /airquotes "complete feel" to it while still being stuck at 50 which doesn't feel quite mature enough to be end game-ish.
I'm reluctant to play the game for level 50 gear when there's level 90+ mobs roaming around the core area. I also believe it would be kind of crappy to develop real "end game" content for level 50 when it doesn't feel like an "end game" level. To me, level cap raises mean better content besides these dungeons and primals to keep us busy until they are ready for it. -
03-27-2012, 11:24 PMMajidahLeveling in XIV is nowhere as dull as leveling in was in XI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephrick
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03-28-2012, 05:00 PMChoyiIts in fact even duller... without any challenge whatsoever on exp mobs and no need to employ battle tactis, XIV is one of the most boring MMORPGs to grind levels in..Quote:
Originally Posted by Majidah
XI was a grind in that it took a long time to level up, but the actual experience of party play etc was often very enjoyable to many, in XIV it just feels like a mindless repetetive grind even if you get levels faster...
Grinding solo, in pt or doing repetetive leves, its the same few combos over and over and over again, no skill, no tacic, no risk-reward choices and no party tactics needed for leveling(an exp party in XIV is more like 8 people soloing togheter then actual team work).
I dislike the quest hub style of leveling that WoW and its clones, but I still would prefer that any day over grinding in XIV, at least they try to be entertaining with quest stories, events and most of all variation and sometimes even challenge.
On topic, I doubt we will see a level cap increase any time soon, because why would the obsolete what little content we have by making us outlevel it?
As others said I would'nt expect a level cap raise until at earliest 2.0 but most likely we could expect to see one within a year from now. -
03-28-2012, 05:06 PMJakeRoon
[QUOTE=Choyi;613641
XI was a grind in that it took a long time to level up, but the actual experience of party play etc was often very enjoyable
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are you on drugs? -
03-28-2012, 05:12 PMChoyiare you? :>Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeRoon
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03-28-2012, 05:17 PMJakeRoon
yes, perhaps you should try some, might clear up your dementia.
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03-28-2012, 05:17 PMChoyi
To clarify however, both XI and XIV for the most part where terrible grinds which offered little in regards of fun and excitement, but for me XI is the lesser evil due to that you at least had to put some effort into winning your fight, aka earning your exp.
If only XIV could take on a more single player aproach to leveling (while keeping valid party play options incorporated), let us do intressting thigns to earn our exp and fight badass mobs, and not slaughter scores of marmots, coblyns and dodos etc.
And you have to agree that leve quests are one of the most repetetive boring way to level ever put into a MMORPG.
Its the same few quests over and over again with no backstory, no context and just sligthly varied enemies and locale. -
03-28-2012, 05:17 PMRojQuote:
Originally Posted by Choyi
If he only played melee he really could actually believe that, ya know.Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeRoon
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03-28-2012, 05:17 PMMirana
I think better wait until 2.0 for the new players that will come when 2.0 begins
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03-28-2012, 05:18 PMindira
they need instance level caps and drops that scale to your level that way theres no waste, no lv caped players soloing content made for a party, and keeps everything from becoming obsolete once you pass that level. and it keeps content where you still have work for it.
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03-28-2012, 05:19 PMChoyiOh I am sorry, so if my opinion difffer from yours, then I must be mad?Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeRoon
You know, people have different taste in all kinds of things right? -
03-28-2012, 05:26 PMChoyiThe jobs i played the most where RDM, SMN, NIN and SAM, I enjoy party play, the feeling of having a good party ripping trough enemies by working togheter using *gasp* teamwork is something I enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roj
Same as I'd rather enjoy instance grinding for exp a'la WoW over any means of exp that both XIV and XI offer.
I play MMORPGs cause I like playing with others as a team. -
03-28-2012, 05:33 PMRojWell I'll let you off this time because that exactly how I feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choyi
If I was to say "Madauders job should have been Dark Knight, Warrior is too generic and doesn't fit the team style of play that jobs were supposed to enhance and encourage." would you, or anyone else agree? -
03-28-2012, 05:42 PMChoyiWarrior is basicly a hybrid class atm, and the problem with hybrid classes in MMOs is that they are very hard to balance, make it not excel in either of their potential roles and they will not be widely employed, make them too good in each of their roles and people will use them too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roj
Warrior atm is a problem due to that it can perfom both of its roles simultaniously, and with great effect at that, a way to fix it would be as some suggested in another thread; to have them take different stances depending on what role they need to fill.
Warrior is somewhat OP atm, but its more complicated then just that... a WAR is good DD while tanking, but as a pure DD they are slightly behind DRG and MNK.
Its good that we have more jobs that can tank (and hopefully more jobs in future who can heal) or there might be many groups waiting for that elusive PLD or WHM to join the last spot for the instance.
As much as I'd like to discuss this, I just realised we're going heavily off topic : ( sorry OP! -
03-28-2012, 08:31 PMHaibel
Only other thing ever really said about the level cap is that the game was designed around a final cap of 100.
however that was the tanka XIV. No idea if that has changed since yoshi.