Why do so many FF XIV players have anxiety??

I'm always hearing about tank anxiety and I don't get it. It's just a vidya game. You just pull the stuff and keep running. What is there to be anxious about??? Are you guys taking your nerve pills?

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Before anybody feeds it. There's a lot of trollish posts from the OP. This is very likely one of them.

Bashing the community won't get you anywhere. Hundreds of thousands of people play this game, people from all ages and etc.

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

Bashing the community won't get you anywhere. Hundreds of thousands of people play this game, people from all ages and etc.

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This is a great community, don't get me wrong. Just why is everyone so anxious?? I don't think people in WoW get tank/healer anxiety. Or at least I don't remember hearing about it like I do here. Like, I'm on nerve pills myself and I never have any trouble tanking or healing. :v I don't understand it.

Ugh these threads by the Op aren't very entertaining and almost made me wish we still had the slightly funny troll posts from Super Bee Brain.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Ugh these threads by the Op aren't very entertaining and almost made me wish we still had the slightly funny troll posts from Super Bee Brain.

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He had a couple of good goes, but if I were to leave a Yelp review I might give 2 stars.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

He had a couple of good goes, but if I were to leave a Yelp review I might give 2 stars.

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Maybe, but at least with his threads you knew he was delusional. Where most of Lacan's threads just belittles a huge part of the player base. Anywhere from parent shaming to now going after anxiety suffers.

Assuming the OP is serious...

The hard enrage,
The game's dependency on instant kill/party wipe mechanics,
The dps focus,
The grind, the loathing of certain types of grind,
The pf doldrums that occur before too long into a patch.

I mean, take your pick.

I suggest if you really want to know then do some research, There have been studies done It's not hard to find (google is your friend)

It's like that for lots of people, no matter the game ^^ Some people are just scared of healing/tanking.

They have their reasons, even if there is no reason to be scared at all.

I mean, whhat's gonna happren? They fail! Big whoop~

It's not the end of the world!

C'mon Lacan. You can troll better than this. 2/10

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

It's like that for lots of people, no matter the game ^^ Some people are just scared of healing/tanking.

They have their reasons, even if there is no reason to be scared at all.

I mean, whhat's gonna happren? They fail! Big whoop~

It's not the end of the world!

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Yea, that's the way I look at it too. If stuff goes bad you can always do over. :v What's the big deal??

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Just why is everyone so anxious??

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Everyone? While tank/healer anxiety is common it's not common enough to make such a statement.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I don't think people in WoW get tank/healer anxiety.

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Yes they do.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Like, I'm on nerve pills myself and I never have any trouble tanking or healing. :v I don't understand it.

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Sorry I don't believe you. If you really were on pills for your nerves you would at least understand that different things make different people anxious. You're here to troll and eat popcorn. It's painfully obvious.

Most people are probably being jokingly hyperbolic. I sometimes say a mechanic gives me anxiety when I'm prone to fucking it up randomly, doesn't mean it actually gives me anxiety.

Trolling asides, anxiety issues (in whatever form) is something only the people affected by it can actually understand (but maybe not necessarily explain why), not speaking of anxiety can come in different levels and shapes. For "normalos" it's quite an abstract thing like the "funny" cultural differences between Asian countries and the West. Social anxiety and probably co-existing (or not) tanking/healing anxiety is, from what I've heard, related to the fear of failures. Yes, it's just a DF group, but many people don't want feel like a burden even from their own PoV. The point is: People with those issues are likely aware of and know that their "fear" is exaggerated or self-afflicted, but it still re-occurs frequently, from time to time etc. Depending on the seriousness, it may be even so bad as the many positive experiences cannot outweigh a few negative ones.

its about taking certain responsibility in a party.
for tanks,its mostly maintain boss positions,mechanics and keeping steady rotations to keep agro in most mmo's
for healers,its keeping the party alive especially the tank while doing mechanics.
for dps,its just avoid death,do mechanics and do damage.

so most prefer to main dps cause its easier to do cause its much more forgiving to screw up as dps(mostly cause it less likely to cause a wipe) compare to healer's and tank's which are usually blamed first.(again its in most mmo's)

also its basically depends on the mindset of the person, to some it is easier to not care about others and just focus on dealing damage and get thrilled when they are the highest in dps.
others find it easier/fun to cover for others and keep party members alive more then just dealing damage.

so people feel a bit scared or stressed because most people prefer dps and are inexperienced in tanking/healers roles(maybe they find different aspects a bit hard for them to handle or don't want to be the reason for blames/wipes) but that is why most people appreciate the ones that take the mantle of being healers and tanks in party more especially good one.

EDIT: its ok if people are nervous about tanking/healings, it shows they care about their party members and understand the important of those roles,whats not ok is you judge them for it.

They dont.
Anxiety is mental disorder associated with physical symptoms through panic attacks, depression, chest pain, vertigo and etc. this is being treated with drugs by medical professionals.
Playing game is not going to trigger anxiety disorder, especially FFXIV, people are just oversensitive and think being nervous is anxiety disorder.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Like, I'm on nerve pills myself and I never have any trouble tanking or healing. :v I don't understand it.

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You're on something all right, but I don't think it's nerve pills...

https://i.imgur.com/zGpGsA2.jpg

OP is on my ignored list but i forgot why, then I opened this thread. lmao

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

They dont.
Anxiety is mental disorder associated with physical symptoms through panic attacks, depression, chest pain, vertigo and etc. this is being treated with drugs by medical professionals.
Playing game is not going to trigger anxiety disorder, especially FFXIV, people are just oversensitive and think being nervous is anxiety disorder.

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Way to go from 0-100, no one is saying they have a disorder. You can get anxious without having a medical condition and still call something related to it as "tank anxiety".

Tank is the role where your skill or lack thereof is the most obvious. Rather than be silently critiqued if I'm using cooldowns wrong or using the right rotation, I'd rather just heal or DPS.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

You're on something all right, but I don't think it's nerve pills...

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BURN!!!

10/char

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Way to go from 0-100, no one is saying they have a disorder. You can get anxious without having a medical condition and still call something related to it as "tank anxiety".

Tank is the role where your skill or lack thereof is the most obvious. Rather than be silently critiqued if I'm using cooldowns wrong or using the right rotation, I'd rather just heal or DPS.

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This is a word misuse imo.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Way to go from 0-100, no one is saying they have a disorder. You can get anxious without having a medical condition and still call something related to it as "tank anxiety".

Tank is the role where your skill or lack thereof is the most obvious. Rather than be silently critiqued if I'm using cooldowns wrong or using the right rotation, I'd rather just heal or DPS.

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no one is silently critiquing you tho, that's in your head. As long as you're using your cooldowns and using aoe when you should be, you're fine. :v

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Originally Posted by Lacan

no one is silently critiquing you tho, that's in your head. As long as you're using your cooldowns and using aoe when you should be, you're fine. :v

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This is why we don't feed trolls.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

This is why we don't feed trolls.

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>_> that isn't trolling, that is literally all it takes. Use your cooldowns at appropriate times and make sure you're using aoe when you've got 3+ mobs. I mean I can't speak to savage stuff, but everything else in the game is very doable on tank as long as you pay attention. They have the simplest rotations in the game outside of healers.

Don't stress it. You can do it. No one is judging you. :v

This gives me forumxiety

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Originally Posted by Lacan

>_> that isn't trolling, that is literally all it takes. Use your cooldowns at appropriate times and make sure you're using aoe when you've got 3+ mobs. I mean I can't speak to savage stuff, but everything else in the game is very doable on tank as long as you pay attention. They have the simplest rotations in the game outside of healers.

Don't stress it. You can do it. No one is judging you. :v

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I'll add that I tank, heal and DPS.

The reason I see your follow up to be trolling is that is that it is fairly well known that one of bigger pet peeves for anybody with a mental issue is being told "it's in all your head" and is often considered to be very unhelpful. Trolls of course can find nuance in their trolling by using language they know will get a hit and when challenged they are free to play the semantics game. Given this thread has approached anxiety as both a feeling and as a disorder, it is plausible you'd try to get hits there.

You made a previous post suggesting you are being medicated for an anxiety problem, whilst showing a lack of understanding of anxiety.

And your history of troll posts doesn't help, otherwise I might be more likely to give the benefit of the doubt.

Not gonna lie I got some anxiety even logging into the forums today. It's too scary uwu;

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

I'll add that I tank, heal and DPS.

The reason I see your follow up to be trolling is that is that it is fairly well known that one of bigger pet peeves for anybody with a mental issue is being told "it's in all your head" and is often considered to be very unhelpful. Trolls of course can find nuance in their trolling by using language they know will get a hit and when challenged they are free to play the semantics game. Given this thread has approached anxiety as both a feeling and as a disorder, it is plausible you'd try to get hits there.

You made a previous post suggesting you are being medicated for an anxiety problem, whilst showing a lack of understanding of anxiety.

And your history of troll posts doesn't help, otherwise I might be more likely to give the benefit of the doubt.

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I'm not saying the anxiety is just in your head. I know people are genuinely feeling that. I'm saying that this idea that "people are silently judging me while I tank stuff!" is just in your head. People aren't doing that unless you are reaaaaally messing stuff up. :v

Folks I've listened to in regards to tankxiety have all said the same thing: They are scared of messing up and wiping the group. Even on my 74GNB and a lot more confidence than when I started out as a baby GLD 3yrs ago(now 70PLD and 60WAR and 70DRK), I still worry a bit about how I'm pulling. Overtime you don't think about all the other stuff, but starting out, it hits you like a bus. Mob control, positioning, CD usage, pace, etc all of that can weigh down on someone not used to being perpetually in charge of 3 lives for the next 15+min.

Fear/Avoidance of negative stimuli in the form of:
1) Potential for combative social interactions.
2) Guilt from mistakes impacting others.
3) Stress from increased attention/responsibility requirements.

Thus, in a game environment, they may elect to bypass additional stressors, however minimal they may or may not be.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I'm always hearing about tank anxiety and I don't get it. It's just a vidya game. You just pull the stuff and keep running. What is there to be anxious about??? Are you guys taking your nerve pills?

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Being a tank means you are responsible for keeping the party alive, along with the healer(s). So there's a lot of pressure NOT to mess up. A lot of people don't really like that type of pressure, and that is why dps outnumber tanks and healers 10 to 1. If a dps goes down, then there's not really much harm done outside of Savage and the like. If a tank goes down? Or a healer even? It can take a really big turn for the worse very fast. I've been a tank main since Shadowbringers thanks to GNB becoming a thing, and while I have gained a lot more confidence as time goes on...I still get nervous sometimes. I was a PLD main when I played FF XI years ago, so as far as I'm concerned, things have come full circle and I'm back to where I need to be. The anxiety still lingers a bit though, but with time I will be fine. Going from being a dps main for the better part of 8-9 years across various games is a huge change. And it takes time to adapt.

Thankfully I have only had 2 situations where my skill has been called into question, and only one of them was totally valid. A Titania NM run was ugly, and as a tank I still wasn't sure of how the fight worked. So yeah, the criticism I received was all but necessary. The other one was a healer who wasn't healing enough during large pulls and blamed me for dying despite the fact that I was cycling through my CDs as they came up. Thankfully after a few wipes and a few back and forth responses later we were finally on the same page. And I didn't even need Superbolide once the entire run. I have done these pulls more than enough times to know what people can and cannot do within reason. If I have survived a pull dozens of times prior, and am now having issues, then the issue isn't necessarily with my personal skill level.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I'm saying that this idea that "people are silently judging me while I tank stuff!" is just in your head. People aren't doing that unless you are reaaaaally messing stuff up. :v

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If you really have anxiety you already know this isn't how it works. If you don't really have anxiety... this still isn't how it works.

I suspect the number actually isn't all that high, it has simply become fashionable for people to self diagnose and use it as an excuse for any and all inconveniences in their lives. It's particularly horrible since it reflects badly on people with genuine crippling issues because they're not taken as seriously as a consequence.

I've also encountered a lot of manipulative individuals within the FFXIV community who exploit 'anxiety' as an excuse to behave terribly and/or try to shame someone for confronting them about something.

what is the entire point of your thread?
blaming people for feeling nervous to tank roles or that they feel nervous while playing tanks?

p.s "people are silently judging me while I tank stuff!" idea isn't just in their heads since there are those who run third party programs to check dps for a run you know.
you can find plenty of post about people complaining about rdps and pdps (for their class as well as other people they had runs with)

This probably sounds pretty pathetic but I have pretty bad social anxiety irl and it carries over into the game. Basically as long as I make the decision to interact with other players and have the time to prepare for it such as queuing for dungeons or asking a question in NN I'm fine. But if a player randomly runs up to me and starts chatting and emoting to my character I freeze up and usually just don't respond because I haven't had the time to prepare. Luckily this hasn't happened much. Only 2 or 3 times in the months I've been playing. I managed to respond to respond to player that did this recently but I think it was because I was extremely tired when they approached me so I guess my brain decided it wasn't worth the effort to go into high alert and lock up the way it usually does.

Probably boils down to people using the word in the wrong context, or people take what they say in the wrong context.

I do think when people bring up anxiety when it comes to tanking and healing they more so they find the potential responsibly as stressful.

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Originally Posted by Awha

Probably boils down to people using the word in the wrong context, or people take what they say in the wrong context.

I do think when people bring up anxiety when it comes to tanking and healing they more so they find the potential responsibly as stressful.

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And this is wrong really wrong, because anxiety actually is being used as a medical term for pretty heavy mental disorder.
I had anxiety relative to my health issues when i was thinking about the worst every day, every hour thinking i am going to die in early age, any pain in chest triggered panic attack, feeling heartbeating thinking i am having arythmia and afraid to go to sleep, feeling sick for every serious medical case info (someone having cancer), feeling dizzy, world shaking or having fatique and so on, even tingling in hands associated with having hands in one strain position i was able to call a stroke.
This is anxiety not that tankiexy/healxiety stuff, whenever i hear someone has "anxiety" because they need to play a tank in video game i facepalm with both hands, its ridiculing the serious condition that is anxiety disorder.
Its like someone calling themselves schizophrenic because they cant decide the job to play in the game, please stop this.