when can we get that hyur beard from the shb benchmark?

https://i.imgur.com/qTqFyxO.png

Please SE!! I'm tired of looking at all these baby face hyurs!!

Right after Viera get hats, but right before Hrothgar can use the aesthetician to change hair styles.

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

so.. in 2077

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It'll still be held back due to PS33 restrictions.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Right after Viera get hats, but right before Hrothgar can use the aesthetician to change hair styles.

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And there after M. Highlanders get eyebrows.

It seems to be a customised face made for that character, even though it's used the generic / pre-existing-character's face as a starting point.

We wouldn't be getting it until they can (via technical issues or budget) increase the number of options made available in the character creator. There is nowhere to put it in the current format.

Yoshida literally said in a previous live letter that giving everyone stubbles would be “too hard.” And I absolutely lost it, lol. I’m not even a male character and I want it to happen, yet, it’s “too hard.” Triple A company, folks.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

And there after M. Highlanders get eyebrows.

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Now that's just saying when h3ll freezes over.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It seems to be a customised face made for that character, even though it's used the generic / pre-existing-character's face as a starting point.

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It's not. It's an actual facial hair option that can be toggled and it's compatible with any jawline and hair color you choose, but it's only available for face 5.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

It's not. It's an actual facial hair option that can be toggled and it's compatible with any jawline and hair color you choose, but it's only available for face 5.

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That's the way every face works though. Every character with the option for a beard has a uniquely-designed one built for that character model so it is, as you said, compatible with the jawline options.

The beard for Midlander face #5 (eg. as used for Ardbert in-game) isn't quite the same as the one used for the Midlander-face-#5 "generic WoL" in the trailer/benchmark. It's a custom model they've made by starting with that straight-from-the-character-creator NPC and customising it in ways that can't be accessed in the character creator*, and they seem to be unable to add new options unless they rebuild how character customisation (and everything that relies on it) works.

If they did add the trailer version, it probably would still be only for that face.

* Customised faces that just make minor alterations to standard ones seems to be a really common way for them to make unique NPCs. All the Scions have custom faces despite seemingly being straight from the character settings (presumably to add their Archon tattoos) or you get things like Yugiri who uses face #3 with the horns from face #1.

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

Yoshida literally said in a previous live letter that giving everyone stubbles would be “too hard.” And I absolutely lost it, lol. I’m not even a male character and I want it to happen, yet, it’s “too hard.” Triple A company, folks.

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Big XD
Change few textures is so hard.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That's the way every face works though. Every character with the option for a beard has a uniquely-designed one built for that character model so it is, as you said, compatible with the jawline options.

The beard for Midlander face #5 (eg. as used for Ardbert in-game) isn't quite the same as the one used for the Midlander-face-#5 "generic WoL" in the trailer/benchmark. It's a custom model they've made by starting with that straight-from-the-character-creator NPC and customising it in ways that can't be accessed in the character creator*, and they seem to be unable to add new options unless they rebuild how character customisation (and everything that relies on it) works.

If they did add the trailer version, it probably would still be only for that face.

* Customised faces that just make minor alterations to standard ones seems to be a really common way for them to make unique NPCs. All the Scions have custom faces despite seemingly being straight from the character settings (presumably to add their Archon tattoos) or you get things like Yugiri who uses face #3 with the horns from face #1.

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Either way...it's still not impossible since they did confirm that they can add more options for existing character creation options/categories but not add any new categories. Au Ra with horn choices regardless of face type is different from having more facial hair options. They also considered it, too.

5.1 or riot.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Either way...it's still not impossible since they did confirm that they can add more options for existing character creation options/categories but not add any new categories. Au Ra with horn choices regardless of face type is different from having more facial hair options. They also considered it, too.

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The "extra features" aren't the same as other categories like hairstyle or face choices where you pick one option from a list, but only ever have one option active at a time. The extra features are all toggled independently and you can turn on as many as you like, so I don't think they count as a list they can add more options to. It's more like they're five separate lists with the options "on" and "off".

Think of it like a form you could fill out where you select the items you want:

Face: [space to write a one-digit number]
Hairstyle: [space to write two-digit number]
Beard?: yes/no
Scar?: yes/no
Etc: yes/no

If the form was originally designed to handle four face options and 15 hairstyles, they could still increase it to nine faces and 99 hairstyles without needing to redesign the form. But they can't add a single extra yes/no option without creating a new space for it.

Soon, I'd hope.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The "extra features" aren't the same as other categories like hairstyle or face choices where you pick one option from a list, but only ever have one option active at a time. The extra features are all toggled independently and you can turn on as many as you like, so I don't think they count as a list they can add more options to. It's more like they're five separate lists with the options "on" and "off".

Think of it like a form you could fill out where you select the items you want:

Face: [space to write a one-digit number]
Hairstyle: [space to write two-digit number]
Beard?: yes/no
Scar?: yes/no
Etc: yes/no

If the form was originally designed to handle four face options and 15 hairstyles, they could still increase it to nine faces and 99 hairstyles without needing to redesign the form. But they can't add a single extra yes/no option without creating a new space for it.

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They can still add it. The beard isn't compatible with the other two beard options available to them, so all three can't be applied together. If they do it this way (which is how it works right now anyway), they can totally add it in. Hell, any fuller beard option, really. No point in having the tiny mustache and goatee when you're going to apply the beard. It makes no sense.

It'll come after we get our long awaited Egi Glamours.

If they had to spend resources for an expac just to re-do the character creator to allow more options (instead of having a few faces with a few specific facial features on each face or locked horns/hairstyles), I'd be all for it. If Blizz could completely re-do all the character models of the races, no reason SE couldn't spend some time to add better customization.

The developers seem like they don't really want to deal with that hassle, though, because they always talk about just focusing on new content and ignoring things like that.

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If they had to spend resources for an expac just to re-do the character creator to allow more options (instead of having a few faces with a few specific facial features on each face or locked horns/hairstyles), I'd be all for it. If Blizz could completely re-do all the character models of the races, no reason SE couldn't spend some time to add better customization.

The developers seem like they don't really want to deal with that hassle, though, because they always talk about just focusing on new content and ignoring things like that.

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I will say it many times more. In one of last year Q&A Yoshi said that they have 300-500 developers working on game AND new expansion. All they can do - produce new content, cant even fix their own netcode or tweak engine.

I want more facial here for miqote too! The face with the cool beard isn't my jam and my cat boy only has a little chin guard.

Likely never.

They should absolutely add it at some point as it's been a common request since the game launched for additional character customisation options to be added.

yoshi pls .

5.3.5 maybe?

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

5.3.5 maybe?

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Not likely.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

Not likely.

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we should sacrifice another dungeon

We can't have just new face remodels or touch-ups or longer hairstyles because Square Enix is a small, indie company & never has any funding

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

Yoshida literally said in a previous live letter that giving everyone stubbles would be “too hard.” And I absolutely lost it, lol. I’m not even a male character and I want it to happen, yet, it’s “too hard.” Triple A company, folks.

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thats bc enix is a small indie company with limited staff and funding!

Honestly, I think the stubble on the WoL in that benchmark looks pretty bad. Wouldn't want it, even if I were a Midlander.

Do want better beard options for all guys though, or at least guys that have facial hair. Spikier chins for Au Ra too.

I refuse to believe it is that hard to add in a freaking stubble.