Suggestion: Title/reward for healer in Frontlines

In frontlines, everyone needs a healer, but no one wants to play one.

Square Enix, could you please introduce maybe 1 or 2 title/rewards for healers similar to Slaughterhouse/Hand of Mercy title rewards?

A friend suggested 1 billion cumulative heals would be a good achievement to obtain a title. It would give healers something to work for, to incentivize healing in a mode where healers are necessary.

Some titles: Pulse of Life (like LB3), The Healer, Battle Medic

Thank you!

healers really need some more love becuse they have a lot harder time to get any kills and progress towards the kill achievements is slow, maybe give the feast class based achievements to frontlines as well.

Would probably have to enforce jobs on players during the queuing process as currently you can switch freely inside of Frontlines (in your base), and I'm not sure that would go down well as being able to switch often helps to fill gaps in roles/jobs that the party might need. Also the way in which exp is rewarded now at the end goes to the job that the player queued up as, so there is little incentive to switch once inside the duty. I'm not sure many people do PvP for healer experience....

Would love this simply because it would benefit me, I love to heal in frontlines and it's the only kind if PvP I like to play. The commendations after a good run are a nice reward in themselves and I honestly enjoy it, but I am always welcoming to more rewards.

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

healers really need some more love becuse they have a lot harder time to get any kills and progress towards the kill achievements is slow, maybe give the feast class based achievements to frontlines as well.

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Kinda funny though how they make it harder for other jobs to get kills since they never seem to die, especially when there's like 4 of them. Or better yet, the legendary healer team. Yes, I have seen more than my fair share of those. I'm of the opinion that if they were to buff their damage, then healing would need to be nerfed to compensate. In PvP only, of course.

I think it's a neat idea
But would become stupid with full healer teams

As a healer in PvP, don't nerf healing. I've been playing since ARR frontlines and it's already at its least fun right now for healers, and perhaps weakest. Nerfing healing would just turn off even more healers.

Healers that focus on doing dps in frontlines just make me kinda mad as a healer, as usually there's stupidly high amounts of damage being done to the team, people dieing, and I see a healer spamming their 2 dps moves, while everyone dies around them

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

As a healer in PvP, don't nerf healing. I've been playing since ARR frontlines and it's already at its least fun right now for healers, and perhaps weakest. Nerfing healing would just turn off even more healers.

Healers that focus on doing dps in frontlines just make me kinda mad as a healer, as usually there's stupidly high amounts of damage being done to the team, people dieing, and I see a healer spamming their 2 dps moves, while everyone dies around them

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What does this have to do with this thread?

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Originally Posted by Samsta

What does this have to do with this thread?

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Just responding to the two people who were talking about helping healers get more kills/nerfing healing and buffing dps. I wasn't at my computer, so was using my phone, and quoting multiple people can be iffy on my phone

I'll never really understand the reluctance of people to play healers when they're easily the most important role.

They desperately need to buff WHM/SCH so they aren't garbage compared to AST, though. Their free swiftcasts coupled with their stronger cooldown abilities make them way better then the other two healers.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'll never really understand the reluctance of people to play healers when they're easily the most important role.

They desperately need to buff WHM/SCH so they aren't garbage compared to AST, though. Their free swiftcasts coupled with their stronger cooldown abilities make them way better then the other two healers.

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It might be the easiest but it's the least engaging and fun role in pvp. Then again, pvp doesn't have any depth so that already has a huge hand into how healers play.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

It might be the easiest but it's the least engaging and fun role in pvp. Then again, pvp doesn't have any depth so that already has a huge hand into how healers play.

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Yeah, it was much more fun in HW and ARR, healers had the full range of their abilities then. You also had to pay attention more, or else an almost instakill dps LB could take someone out, or a Bard/MCH burst could take someone out if you didn't get dots/status effects off in time. There were also much more CCs to deal with, so knowing when to attune or purify was key.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

It might be the easiest but it's the least engaging and fun role in pvp. Then again, pvp doesn't have any depth so that already has a huge hand into how healers play.

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Ironically Frontlines is at it's most fun when it's queue is near empty and it slots you in for the 8v8v8 mode. It feels actually tactical to play like that, as opposed to the 72 man which more often than not is a zerg fest.

Also I'm down for a title to be added, but I request it be called 'Herder of Cats' because that's exactly what healing in Frontlines feels like half the time.

Absolutely in favor of healers getting more love in Frontlines and just PVP as a whole. It's such a demanding job and you ALWAYS get targeted so you might as well be an honorary tank.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'll never really understand the reluctance of people to play healers when they're easily the most important role.

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I'd guess it probably has something to do with knowing that if you go healer the opposing team is going to be placing a #1 mark over your head while telling everyone in their alliance focus on killing healers first.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'll never really understand the reluctance of people to play healers when they're easily the most important role.

They desperately need to buff WHM/SCH so they aren't garbage compared to AST, though. Their free swiftcasts coupled with their stronger cooldown abilities make them way better then the other two healers.

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In the Feast, AST really is powerful. In Frontlines...I've noticed WHM are far more powerful, or at least my teams seem to have problems taking them out compared to SCHs and ASTs.

They should buff healers to make it more attractive ( not like ARR when Frontline came out and you could solo 4 players with WHM alone ). But Healers must be stronger imo, they die fast and their damage is a lame, being usually the first one to die isn't a incentive when your resistance is so weak and everybody targets on you ( i don't play Rival Wings anymore because i never find people to do that so i don't know if changed, but healers in Frontline should be like there, Healers isn't/wasn't a egg shell where only 1 opponent can rape you alone like in Frontline now, where you must run for your life or stand and die because your damage won't kill anyone and your heals isn't enough to sustain yourself )

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Originally Posted by Enla

Ironically Frontlines is at it's most fun when it's queue is near empty and it slots you in for the 8v8v8 mode. It feels actually tactical to play like that, as opposed to the 72 man which more often than not is a zerg fest.

Also I'm down for a title to be added, but I request it be called 'Herder of Cats' because that's exactly what healing in Frontlines feels like half the time.

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secure is absolutely horrible with 24 players, seize and shatter are ok though.

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

secure is absolutely horrible with 24 players, seize and shatter are ok though.

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24-man Secure is terrible. If they were so determined to keep the giant Borderlands Ruins map for 24 people, they should have just made it Slaughter rules. 24-man Slaughter was way more enjoyable than 24-man Secure ever was. All teams were more or less confined to the middle area and drones still spawned for hefty points. Home bases also had a launch pad directly to the center of the map. The map is just too big and flags too far apart for teams of 8 people.

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Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers

They should buff healers to make it more attractive ( not like ARR when Frontline came out and you could solo 4 players with WHM alone ). But Healers must be stronger imo, they die fast and their damage is a lame, being usually the first one to die isn't a incentive when your resistance is so weak and everybody targets on you ( i don't play Rival Wings anymore because i never find people to do that so i don't know if changed, but healers in Frontline should be like there, Healers isn't/wasn't a egg shell where only 1 opponent can rape you alone like in Frontline now, where you must run for your life or stand and die because your damage won't kill anyone and your heals isn't enough to sustain yourself )

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Healers 100% are not weak, Their heals heal far more than attack normally deal damage, I have survived against 4 people attacking me for 30 seconds just by healing myself, killing a healer can be done with cc and focus, or just simply using adrenaline rush, though even that can be survived, but I have never felt that my heals are weak, quite the opposite, attacks feel really weak compared to heals, just look at the potencies of attacks and potencies of heals, 2500 potency is a number that only the strongest damage abilities have, but it's the potency of a normal heal, combine that with the stronger 5000 potency heal and all the oGCD heals you have and you are a fucking tank without the enemy being really good at focusing you down, at which point they deserve the kill. Have you ever played a healer in frontlines? I have completely different experience and what you are saying makes no sense, it's impossible to kill a healer 1 vs 1, your damage simply is not enough.

Healers being the absolute levels of busted they are is incentive enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Healers being the absolute levels of busted they are is incentive enough for me.

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I think you just mean AST because it's way too easy to pressure WHM/SCH with how few instacast heals they have.

It raises a serious question of whether they intend to bring AST down in 5.1 or buff the other healers up to their level.