Titan Savage Fast Bomb Boulders are the worst mechanic in the game.

You can't even get a chance to read which way to go for bomb boulders because of how you can lose 3 rocks from dropping them down properly. The biggest issue is mainly avoiding fast bombs, because there are instances where certain classes(DNC in particular) get cucked if Titan decides to use his Car Opener. Also, the time it takes for the bombs to blow up is very fast, and provides no time if you get unlucky. You also have to hide behind a rock before Rock Bombs too, so it becomes even tighter.

It may seem like a simple mechanic, but it almost guarantees you get a raid-wide damage down if you can't barely get out in time.

https://i.imgur.com/b9cP9ka.png

Other methods include looking at the castbars in enemy list and timing your movement. Or you can just always go for the 3-1 bombs, which you can guarantee to happen, but this may cost you some melee uptime. Either way, it's not really that tight if done correctly.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

https://i.imgur.com/b9cP9ka.png

Other methods include looking at the castbars in enemy list and timing your movement. Or you can just always go for the 3-1 bombs, which you can guarantee to happen, but this may cost you some melee uptime. Either way, it's not really that tight if done correctly.

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This is what I personally do it. You can move to the center a bit before the cast from the central bombs go off, you don't even need to sprint. I've done it successfully with 170ms of ping. My group does the 1-3 one, costing them the uptime... but I like being a baller...

I almost never get hit by them if I stand on the edge of the safe tile and run as soon as the cast bar hits the "n" in Explosion.

Your tank suppose to guide the boss to the 3rd bomb to do the mechanic correctly, there plenty of time to do so... , people just lazy them because you can dodge it consistently even fron the 2nd bomb

u dont have to hide behind the rock until the bomb go off, u online need to be behind the rock until the end of cast of "wave" then you can move two lalafell distance and hit sprint, get ready to run after the 1st bomb.

DNC has En Avant, it has it way better than any other job in that fight.

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Originally Posted by Miminming

Your tank suppose to guide the boss to the 3rd bomb to do the mechanic correctly, there plenty of time to do so... , people just lazy them because you can dodge it consistently even fron the 2nd bomb

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Plenty of time if you don't mind losing melee uptime.

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Originally Posted by Miminming

Your tank suppose to guide the boss to the 3rd bomb to do the mechanic correctly, there plenty of time to do so... , people just lazy them because you can dodge it consistently even fron the 2nd bomb

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Doing this is brutal for melee and tank uptime though. You lose upwards 4-5 GCDs when you can just learn the 2-1 dodge and lose nothing.

I’ve done both the 2-1 and 3-1 dodge in Titan. It’s not that hard for either. Even without using En Avant.

I don’t see issues with the car phase versus the non-car phase either. After you get pushed back, you can immediately move into the next lane. The Yellow/Orange will snapshot over the place where you got knocked back, so you don’t run the risk of losing anything—Flourished procs or a Standard Finish.

Sorry talking from caster/healer perspective scratch that if its sacrificing 4-5 gcd ;

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Originally Posted by ImDingDing

u dont have to hide behind the rock until the bomb go off, u online need to be behind the rock until the end of cast of "wave" then you can move two lalafell distance and hit sprint, get ready to run after the 1st bomb.

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i also measure distances with lalafells.

but I also had to practice this for literally hours to get the placement right. things i learned:

-dont depend on the safety rock to be perfectly center, that will kill you.
-eyeball the center of the 2 boulders you're trying to dodge to find that safe little divot to stand in (that picture above is perfect for demonstrating this)
-you can move the instant seismic wave fills its cast bar

My grp has to do the 3-1 bombs as there are 4 of us with EU latency on NA servers (1 tank, 1 heal, me the dnc and our melee) it sucks to lose a little uptime but it is better than dying/getting dmg down doing 2-1 which is nigh impossible(hyperbole ofc) with our latency as you just can't react fast enough especially if you ever get a blip in connection. This mechanic is the only one way i feel my latency is a problem but thankfully there is a workaround. (if those few gcds cause you to hit enrage than there are other problems going on).

How does DNC get cucked in Titan? This entire raid tier is extremely cozy for DNC. If it's car first the only valid complaint is that you gotta hit the tech at the same time as you pay attention to the explosion cast bar but even then like it's not that big brain, just minor awareness needed. DNC has been a blessing for this raid tier. Easy class, easy alignment lol

Savage is not WoW LFR.

p.s.: I have yet to clear savage. This is just fine. Game is working as intended.

Do we really want there to be no challenging content? So that we end up with an army of players hiding on a 1.0 “Classic FFXIV” server?

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Originally Posted by Makeda

Do we really want there to be no challenging content? So that we end up with an army of players hiding on a 1.0 “Classic FFXIV” server?

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You mean that's not a thing already hadn't you heard 1.0 was the single best version of FFXIV there has ever been, will ever be, give us our plant pots with as many polygons as our characters because muh unnecessary high immersion /s

Ranged physical dps can go to the other side if they need to if that means holding technical for an extra few secs(10 at most) then that is what you have to do, with Titan it is better to be safe than sorry

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p.s.: I have yet to clear savage. This is just fine. Game is working as intended.

Do we really want there to be no challenging content? So that we end up with an army of players hiding on a 1.0 “Classic FFXIV” server?

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Everyone I've partied with these last 2-3 weeks agrees that this particular mechanic is the most unforgiving of the entire fight. sure, the debuff doesnt kill you if you get hit by only one, but its a pain to have at all. out of every mechanic, this one in particular took the most practice to nail 90% of the time for me. It doesn't need to be changed at all, IMO, but i'd be lying if I said it wasnt the most frustrating mechanic of the fight.

Assuming the boss is centered you can always run to the safe bomb that is on the 3rd set to do the 3 to 1 dodge. If its a far run you will loose uptime with melees but then nobody will die and that is not enough to make you hit enrage on the boss.

This not a difficult mechanic. Sprint isn't even needed. Just have to keep in mind bombs explode circular and don't take up the entire square they occupy.