Is Lustrate the new Physick?

Lustrate feels like it doesn't do much and I find myself actively avoiding it. I don't know if Lustrate's aetherflow stack or Physick's GCD is a worse cost to pay. How are people dealing with this?

Lustrate>physick, but generally speaking, you don't want to use either. If you need a huge boost of health, your best option after lustrate and excog is e-tactics into adlo.

Lustrate does feel weak at the moment for some reason. I'm not entirely sure why; it's more than 85% of a cure 2, but cure 2 feels much more powerful for some reason. I'm guessing it's just that I'm used to casting lustrate at level 70 in Scaevan and Rakshasa gear, so my heals are weaker in general than they were.

For me now lustrate become situational, usually if excog in cd, if the target too far away and sustain critical damage. I would say its still an "oh shit" button for sch. Rarely use it but still useful since its instant cast, i would not hesitate to use dissipation to get more aetherflow stack if needed

During dungeons it's my "Excog is down and I don't want to interrupt my Art of War/Broil spam so here's an oGCD heal" ability.

In 8-man content it's my "A single DPS stood in something they shouldn't have and I don't want to spend a GCD to heal them" ability.

Occasionally it's my "Oh crap the tank is at 5% health and I need something RIGHT NOW since ET+Adlo will take a couple seconds to cast" ability.

Lustrate is still pretty useful simply because it's an instant oGCD heal.

Granted, it does feel weaker this expansion, but the same could be said about every healing ability tbh.

Just because it's your lowest priority aetherflow heal doesn't mean it's useless. If you have to...God forbid, heal someone, you can do a Physick into lustrate for a chunky heal for less mp then an adlo.

But yeah, otherwise its pretty decent to pop a couple on the tank in large dungeon pulls to keep them stabilized during your Art of War spam

Haven't noticed a difference from how lustrate has always been, personally.

Unless we're going back to 2.0 where it was a %. >.>

No. Physick is still worse than Lustrate.

Regardless both feel like they have no impact.

In general GCD heals feel really lackluster unless you use the II (which SCH has none) at the cost of your mana.

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Originally Posted by Schan

No. Physick is still worse than Lustrate.

Regardless both feel like they have no impact.

In general GCD heals feel really lackluster unless you use the II (which SCH has none) at the cost of your mana.

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I get the feeling you don't heal very often?

You can go through most dungeons in this game only using cure 1 as a white mage and it's more than enough. Lustrate is a perfectly fine emergency heal. Not sure how anyone can think it has no impact.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I get the feeling you don't heal very often?

You can go through most dungeons in this game only using cure 1 as a white mage and it's more than enough. Lustrate is a perfectly fine emergency heal. Not sure how anyone can think it has no impact.

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This is a pretty big exaggeration. Maybe if you limit the scope of your example to df encounters with single pull tanks, then your example works. But even then, why? I should pose the same question to you: you don't heal very often do you?

Right now lustrate is weak. You are able to use 2 sacred soils and 1 excog every minute. Excog is 800 potency, 200 better than lustrate. Sacred soil is 600 potency total (even on a single target), so it's the same as lustrate but with 10% mitigation. The times where you have a good reason to use lustrate are rare: you either have too many aetherflow stacks, you need to heal, and your other healing cds are not usable, or you need the instant heal immediately otherwise someone will die. If one of these isn't true then your use of lustrate probably wasn't the best option you had.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I get the feeling you don't heal very often?

You can go through most dungeons in this game only using cure 1 as a white mage and it's more than enough. Lustrate is a perfectly fine emergency heal. Not sure how anyone can think it has no impact.

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Maybe you're spoiled by decent tanks? there are plenty of variables. in the "oh $%£" situations Lustrate has felt lackluster. Excog has probably spoiled me.

Granted i've been in such bad situations that not even Jesus could save the tank.

Also how come when people want to bring up that healing is "fine" they talk from an WHM point of view? We're not discussing WHM here. We're talking about SCH.
All healers have issues and I will gladly talk about WHM somewhere else (and once my work stops being awful. maybe)

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Originally Posted by Impurrrsive

For me now lustrate become situational, usually if excog in cd, if the target too far away and sustain critical damage. I would say its still an "oh shit" button for sch. Rarely use it but still useful since its instant cast, i would not hesitate to use dissipation to get more aetherflow stack if needed

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About dissipation, this expansion happened the same to me.
Now I use dissipation as part of my toolkit, everytime is ready

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Originally Posted by Wawachume

Lustrate does feel weak at the moment for some reason. I'm not entirely sure why; it's more than 85% of a cure 2, but cure 2 feels much more powerful for some reason. I'm guessing it's just that I'm used to casting lustrate at level 70 in Scaevan and Rakshasa gear, so my heals are weaker in general than they were.

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Because Cure2 is a spell and has modifiers attached to it and Lustrate is an ability and doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Wawachume

Lustrate does feel weak at the moment for some reason. I'm not entirely sure why; it's more than 85% of a cure 2, but cure 2 feels much more powerful for some reason. I'm guessing it's just that I'm used to casting lustrate at level 70 in Scaevan and Rakshasa gear, so my heals are weaker in general than they were.

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That's part of it, but I think it's also about resources. Lustrate eats into a resource that's used for things like Indom and Excog as well, so its impact is less impressive when compared against "press X to forget about the tank for a minute" and "what's a raid-wide?", whereas WHM cares about its MP almost less than BLM.