Any chance we can get Trust system as open world content?

Now I know this is more of a future idea. If they do it. It would be unlikely to see it in Shadowbringers.

One things I did kinda with the Shadowbringers story. Was how we go around with the Scions and yet they really did not do anything but stand around. While we did their busy body work. I would have loved to see us replace our out of date chocobo companion with one of our trust companions.

They end up giving us a quest and just sit there waiting for us to turn it in. How cool would it be to have them fighting by your side. When you are done with the quest. You can just turn in the quest right there.

I know it not a big deal. Yet I would love to see more then just a dungeon trust system.

As much as I love Shadowbringers story. It did make the Sions out of dungeons looks like they are incompetent and lazy.

But there isn't really anything open-world to do with them...? I don't really see the point. Do you want to grind FATEs with them alongside you, I guess?

I think is not going to happen in near future if i remember right they said that they made the trust for msq stuff for this exp

I'm not sure how they'd make that work..? I don't think they want 10,000 Thancred's running around :O

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Originally Posted by JWag12787

I'm not sure how they'd make that work..? I don't think they want 10,000 Thancred's running around :O

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Well, the FFXI version gets around that by outright stating that they're not the actual NPCs you're using but simply a magical construct you're summoning to your side (think Carbuncle but with a famous npc), with a preset set of commands and actions to use (and limited robotic dialogue). There was even an official story on the FFXI website that shows a Trust NPC summoned by an 'adventurer' meeting the actual npc it's based on, with the npc not too impressed with her magical dopelganger. ;)

But yeah, as others have said, there is virtually no need for the Trust system open-world here as the Chocobo Companion system already satisfies that.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Well, the FFXI version gets around that by outright stating that they're not the actual NPCs you're using but simply a magical construct you're summoning to your side (think Carbuncle but with a famous npc), with a preset set of commands and actions to use (and limited robotic dialogue). There was even an official story on the FFXI website that shows a Trust NPC summoned by an 'adventurer' meeting the actual npc it's based on, with the npc not too impressed with her magical dopelganger. ;)

But yeah, as others have said, there is virtually no need for the Trust system open-world here as the Chocobo Companion system already satisfies that.

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I just hate the Chocobo Companion. It was a pretty stupid system to bring in. I do not remember Cloud fighting Sephiroth with a chocobo. I do not remember Tina fighting Kefka with a Chocobo. I do not remember Tidus fighting Sin with a chocobo. I do nto remember a chocobo becoming one of the Warriors of Light to fight Exdeath. I could go on and on. Point being Chocobo Companions do not belong in the game.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

I just hate the Chocobo Companion. It was a pretty stupid system to bring in. I do not remember Cloud fighting Sephiroth with a chocobo. I do not remember Tina fighting Kefka with a Chocobo. I do not remember Tidus fighting Sin with a chocobo. I do nto remember a chocobo becoming one of the Warriors of Light to fight Exdeath. I could go on and on. Point being Chocobo Companions do not belong in the game.

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Single-player FF games do not count though as you're usually playing as a party of player characters not just one. The FF MMOs have a different design paradigm which is meant to be you controlling a single character in parties alongside other players), but does have options for solo-content, which for open-world content here in FFXIV is the Chocobo Companion (FFXI had it's NPC Fellow originally and now has the Trust System). I agree that having a chocobo fight alongside you.... is rather underwhellming and would like an alternative (I personally would prefer to have my old Path Companion return from FFXIV 1.0), but I think Yoshi has made his choice and thus alas we will not see a change to the Chocobo Companion.

Apparently there was rumours that the GC Squadron would be usable in open-world content but that has never eventuated either sadly. :(

Also FF Tactics allows you to recruit chocobos to your party and have them fight as controllable units in battle, but that was a strategy RPG that does things differently to the 'main' FF series so it doesn't really count.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

I just hate the Chocobo Companion. It was a pretty stupid system to bring in. I do not remember Cloud fighting Sephiroth with a chocobo. I do not remember Tina fighting Kefka with a Chocobo. I do not remember Tidus fighting Sin with a chocobo. I do nto remember a chocobo becoming one of the Warriors of Light to fight Exdeath. I could go on and on. Point being Chocobo Companions do not belong in the game.

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Cloud fought sephiroth with a remote control mascot and a sentient dog. Bartz fought Exdeath with a 6 year old girl. Firion fought the emperor with a mentally simple man who speaks mole. Terra fights (or doesn't fight) Kefka with a little girl, a flamboyantly dressed mime, and a yeti.

Need I go on? There's nothing wrong with having a chocobo fight with you

I was apparently wrong about Krile being 6, but my other points stand.

It's fine

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Single-player FF games do not count though as you're usually playing as a party of player characters not just one. The FF MMOs have a different design paradigm which is meant to be you controlling a single character in parties alongside other players), but does have options for solo-content, which for open-world content here in FFXIV is the Chocobo Companion (FFXI had it's NPC Fellow originally and now has the Trust System). I agree that having a chocobo fight alongside you.... is rather underwhellming and would like an alternative (I personally would prefer to have my old Path Companion return from FFXIV 1.0), but I think Yoshi has made his choice and thus alas we will not see a change to the Chocobo Companion.

Apparently there was rumours that the GC Squadron would be usable in open-world content but that has never eventuated either sadly. :(

Also FF Tactics allows you to recruit chocobos to your party and have them fight as controllable units in battle, but that was a strategy RPG that does things differently to the 'main' FF series so it doesn't really count.

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It a shame we got stuck with the dumb bird. As it pretty much useless. It can not hold agro as a tank. It healing is trash and it dps is trash. At less with the trust system they can do their job. If you where to go into a dungeon with 3 Chocobos. Well you are screwed.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

I just hate the Chocobo Companion. It was a pretty stupid system to bring in. I do not remember Cloud fighting Sephiroth with a chocobo. I do not remember Tina fighting Kefka with a Chocobo. I do not remember Tidus fighting Sin with a chocobo. I do nto remember a chocobo becoming one of the Warriors of Light to fight Exdeath. I could go on and on. Point being Chocobo Companions do not belong in the game.

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I dont remember fighting the end boss of any of the previous games in a random encounter on the world map. And the birds arent as bad as you make them out to be. No, they cant really tank but their DPS is better then some people i get paired with in DF and they heal enough to keep me up for quite awhile. Just gotta get them levels.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

It a shame we got stuck with the dumb bird. As it pretty much useless. It can not hold agro as a tank. It healing is trash and it dps is trash. At less with the trust system they can do their job. If you where to go into a dungeon with 3 Chocobos. Well you are screwed.

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Their heals are actually pretty potent. Not equal to another player, sure, but good enough to get the job done. I know there have been job quests with non-instanced combat where my birds heals made all the difference. And free damage is free damage.

No comment about tanking, I never spec'd my bird into that.

Agreed, the Healer spec for the Chocobo can be very useful, the trick is not to actually master that spec so it doesn't learn Choco Medica, which is a far less potent spell than the base 'Choco Cure' is (if is mastered it will always use Choco Medica over the former), hence throwing some points into the other specs can be useful. I do admit though that it's AI isn't the best and it tends to waste a lot of time trying to buff its healing potency over just healing as needed (putting it specifically into Healer stance instead of the default helps a lot too as it will then use Choco Cure pretty much all the time instead of only when you're at 25% health or less).

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

I just hate the Chocobo Companion. It was a pretty stupid system to bring in. I do not remember Cloud fighting Sephiroth with a chocobo. I do not remember Tina fighting Kefka with a Chocobo. I do not remember Tidus fighting Sin with a chocobo. I do nto remember a chocobo becoming one of the Warriors of Light to fight Exdeath. I could go on and on. Point being Chocobo Companions do not belong in the game.

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However Ramza, the best ff protagonist, did defeat Ultima with a Chocobo. Boco was his name.

If not MSQ NPCs, I'm still open to the idea of Retainer(s)/Squadron companions. Rather tired of Chocobos.

But yeah, since there really isn't much of anything outside in the open-world to do, it almost seems pointless. And when they were asked about it way-back-when for more companions, their response was basically "Ew programming new companion UI/more actions & emotes. Pass"