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Bonus Solo SCH video here (by the same healer)
N.AST Solo Heals E4S
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08-12-2019, 03:32 AMGhishlainN.AST Solo Heals E4S
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08-12-2019, 03:34 AMCanadane
And people say healers need fixing!
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08-12-2019, 03:46 AMBillythepancakeBecause they do, lmao. Nobody has claimed that their healing is bad, but how they feel to play is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
Sick run though, good job. -
08-12-2019, 03:49 AMKidria
Watching those gave me healing anxiety lol I wonder how many practice runs they had to do to get that down.
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08-12-2019, 04:28 AMLodi
Healers: Our dps kit is boring!
Other players: Your healing kit is fine LOL stop complaining
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08-12-2019, 08:08 AMAurturia
8I dont raid so I'm just curious, is something that doesn't ever happen? Or rather is this something that happened as a result of the healer changes? Asking as a casual player and former sch main.
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08-12-2019, 08:12 AMTheForceSolo healing in itself is impressive in any raid, but to do it in the final Savage raid while it's relevant content? That's absolutely incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurturia
You said you're a casual player so I just wanna make sure that you know, but Savage is very, very, VERY hard content. -
08-12-2019, 08:13 AMBillythepancakePeople have been solo healing savage content since savage content has been a thing, it isnt new, but it's still impressive. You won't see many people do it, because theres not really anything to gain from doing it other than bragging rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurturia
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08-12-2019, 08:38 AMGhishlain
It should also be noted that this is only week 2 of Savage release so this also isn't being done at capped item level either - making it even more impressive. For me, it's also pretty fun to see how far the best healers in the game can push the kits. With that being said, we also shouldn't understate the team effort and coordination needed to achieve this feet. You can bet the CD management from the party helps the solo healer manage the level of damage being outputted in this fight.
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08-12-2019, 09:37 AMMaltothoris
Like Ghishlain said, it's always important to look at party composition and know how the group is using their cds. We have a monk for mantra(so bigger shields), a dancer for samba, curing waltz and Improvisation(in downtime), a red mage for raises and addle, and the blm for addle. For the tanks, drk has reprisal, and dark missionary and the gnb has heart of light and reprisal for aoe. And for the the astro we have collective and celestial opposition. As long these are properly managed, it does reduce the aoe damage to make up for the lack of another healer.
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08-12-2019, 09:53 AMForteNightshadeOutside of Astro before 5.05, few have complained about heals being too weak. Quite the opposite, in fact. Healer kits are hilariously overpowered in this game. The primary complaint is the role itself has become increasingly boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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08-12-2019, 10:15 AMEvanoel
But... but... Noct AST should be just deleted already. :rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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08-12-2019, 11:05 AMEdanielHealers haven't been complaining so much about their healing kit. Healers have been criticizing the rest of the kit as boring and uninspired. A kit can be optimized for the highest tier we have, and still be a sleep inducing mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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08-12-2019, 11:41 AMAlmostwardYou do know that it's not the healing people are complaining about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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08-12-2019, 02:50 PMMontyChamberlain
So I actually took a look at the video and the things the player does are just a farce of what many players would tell you not to do. They use macros for cards, with each corresponding to the DPS in the party list, and they even click to cast almost half of their abilities.
And yet they manage to do not only the bare minimum of healing required for the fight whilst fitting in a few DPS spells, raising a DPS who died before the transition, and healed other players who made a misstep here and there. I regularly spend hours trying to fit keybinds for every ability and this person, with default keybinds and all, ignores all that and just clicks them all!
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08-13-2019, 04:00 AMDyniabuff astro more cmon is so shity compered to OP whm ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
WHM IS SO OP NEED nerf, im glad i left this sunken ship and this comunnity lol -
08-13-2019, 04:22 AMGhishlainPlease don't turn this into a healer balance discussion. You already have your own thread dedicated to have that discussion. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynia
I just wanted to post this to show all levels of healers an example of the pinnacle of healing looks like because I figured they'd enjoy and/or be awed by it. I know I enjoyed watching it. -
08-13-2019, 05:03 AMBillythepancakeI wouldn't stress about them, it was legitimately a nice run though. Maybe I can convince my static to let me attempt a solo heal at one point, always wanted those sweet bragging rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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08-13-2019, 05:47 AMGhishlainOh, not stressing too much but I do want to nip the issue in the bud before it becomes another thread that's about the salt mines of healer balance, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billythepancake
Also, I wouldn't mind trying some solo healing myself, but it definitely does require a certain level of patience from the rest of the group as well so I probably won't pursue this on my end. I solo'd a lot of stuff on WHM back in XI because the game was made for those kinds of challenges. Sadly I can't do that here, but c'est la vie.
I do admire the AST video greatly. As someone who has AST to 78 ATM, the amount of CDs to keep track of makes my head explode. It's fun to see it from the perspective of someone who can keep all those internal clocks clicking and prioritize what needs to happen when without missing a beat. As a WHM main, I actually want to get REALLY good at AST because the skills it teaches one about CD management and awareness is not something I get from playing either SCH or WHM. I figure it's a good skill set to have in my pocket. -
08-13-2019, 05:59 AMEaMett
The fact that this healer manually clicks most of their spells is stressing me out for some reason. Impressed with the MP management and party CD rotation aspect of it especially. Impressive feat.
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08-13-2019, 06:08 AMGhishlainI don't know if you caught it, but there was a point where a tank with blue mark intentionally jumped off the edge. I say intentionally because they do the exact same thing in the SCH video as well. I assume it has something to do with the fact that there is no safe way to deal with how that set of mechanics target people with only a single healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by EaMett
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08-13-2019, 06:27 AMEaMettYeah I noticed the suicide. It's because the healer got a yellow and not a blue marker so both blue markers ended up on the same platform. Part of me thinks there has got to be a way around that but I'm not too sure how markers react with one less healer. It could also be an uptime strat depending on how said markers react and they just got unlucky rng.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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08-13-2019, 06:27 AMPomPomFlareRed Mage raises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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08-15-2019, 05:01 PMBloodRubyXIIAST has an amazing kit, but the worst part is before savage content you don't even need half of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edaniel
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08-16-2019, 05:51 AMEdanielLike I said, the healing kits are fine. I would like to see more interaction between the kit (For example, it would be more interesting for Combustion tic's to proc Crit Benefic II's) as well as some minor tweaking (For example, Horoscope detonating instead of just falling off.)Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII
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08-16-2019, 10:35 AMAlmostwardHealing is ok. It's the rest of the kit. Cards are bad now. With the lore butchered, and the time Mage moves gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII