Didn't make the cut.

So, here's my situation.

I'm a west coast player, it's hard to find late-night statics in the PST timezone, and even harder to find very late-night statics in EST, so when I can I try and get in. This was one of those statics.

They took me on for trial runs starting tonight, went ahead and joined and well- they decided to not keep me on, but I didn't really get any feedback. They were looking specifically for an AST, which I main, and understood I was entirely new to the fight, looking primarily for members that could learn the fight quickly. They listed themselves as sHC or MC. The fight was E2S, cohealing with a SCH.

I felt I did okay, some mechanics I messed up, others I saw once and never messed up again, and on some I never made a mistake. At this point I'm wondering what more I could've done, we were having issues with healing during some sections so I dropped DPS on one or two runs, I tried to use cooldowns as efficiently as I knew how, and still no luck.

But I'm feeling a bit discouraged at the moment, my first static didn't work out due to a time constraint mixed with a timezone mix up, and it took me a couple days to find this one, at this point I feel like just trying to PUG the fights.

Also, I'd really prefer to get advice from people with E2S clears, all the better if it's as an AST.

A static looking for an AST says a lot about the quality of said static

If you have trouble with your timezone, have you considered moving to another server were your playtime would be their evening?

For your raiding-situation, they probably had parser running and were seeing something they didn't like. If you have those files too you could maybe let someone look over them who knows how to analyse them accurately.

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Originally Posted by Gestahl-Beoulve

A static looking for an AST says a lot about the quality of said static

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Your post makes no sense. There are already 35+ Titan Savage clears with AST/SCH.

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Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

If you have trouble with your timezone, have you considered moving to another server were your playtime would be their evening?

For your raiding-situation, they probably had parser running and were seeing something they didn't like. If you have those files too you could maybe let someone look over them who knows how to analyse them accurately.

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Yep, that's what I think too, they or even the co-healer saw something in their log because you need pretty good raid DPS to clear E2S. Sure it has a lot of movement, so decent weaving of healer dps is going to be required.

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A static looking for an AST says a lot about the quality of said static

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Originally Posted by Cyrocco

I'd really prefer to get advice from people with E2S clears, all the better if it's as an AST.

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You need to go somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Cyrocco

You need to go somewhere else.

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Thats a little rude, or at least you're reading it harsher than what I am. To me he's saying that people who strictly want an AST, don't know how end game raiding is working right now, if ever. AST is completely viable, but so are SCH and WHM and they fill their roles just fine. Nocturnal AST is accepted as generally weak compared to scholar. If I had to guess, I would say that the SCH wants to DPS and wants an AST to bend to all the GCD healing, where as with a WHM in party, SCH will have to put more resources into healing, since WHM pDPS is what makes their Raid utility.

If it was reversed and they already had an AST, looking for a SCH specifically, because the AST preferred to Diurnal, that would be an acceptable request.

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Originally Posted by technole

Yep, that's what I think too, they or even the co-healer saw something in their log because you need pretty good raid DPS to clear E2S. Sure it has a lot of movement, so decent weaving of healer dps is going to be required.

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I was hoping they'd be a bit light on the DPS requirements since I was fresh to learning the raid, but it's possible DPS meant more to them than I thought it would, I guess I'm mostly wondering if people are healing the raid a certain way that gives them more DPS uptime if that's the case.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess we'll never know. Especially with people trashing healers in every thread they can right now, but that's an off-topic conversation for another thread.

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Originally Posted by Gestahl-Beoulve

A static looking for an AST says a lot about the quality of said static

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Unneeded they are asking for help on improving themselves not for bashing a static they have no idea why they didn't make the cut.

Now more on topic which part of the fight have you been having trouble with? (only been up to double flares so can't help too much unfortunately)
If your pdps was a problem(progging it shouldn't) then that is something that would fluctuate by a group to group basis and much harder to improve consistently.

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Unneeded they are asking for help on improving themselves not for bashing a static they have no idea why they didn't make the cut.

Now more on topic which part of the fight have you been having trouble with? (only been up to double flares so can't help too much unfortunately)
If your pdps was a problem(progging it shouldn't) then that is something that would fluctuate by a group to group basis and much harder to improve consistently.

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It seemed like on a lot of the stacks we'd lose a couple people, and the lead didn't seem to be sure if it was because of improper stacking or people not being topped off, and to be honest I'm not 100% on it either. By the time the group decided to retire we had made it to double flares with like- 4 or so people still up.

Could be anything... Maybe they expected more dps. Maybe they expected you to learn faster. Maybe they didn't think you were a good fit for non-gameplay reasons.

All we can do is speculate. What you can do is ask.

This is a good reason to get in the habit of recording your runs. It's useful for looking back on your own mistakes and getting input from others. As it is, much as I would like to help we only have your word on how things went, and memory can be quite the unreliable narrator.

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It seemed like on a lot of the stacks we'd lose a couple people, and the lead didn't seem to be sure if it was because of improper stacking or people not being topped off, and to be honest I'm not 100% on it either. By the time the group decided to retire we had made it to double flares with like- 4 or so people still up.

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Sounds like improper stacking if everyone has near full hp(more ast than sch) + mitigation(which is more sch than ast), everyone can be in it except for hell wind preys, eye person just slightly south but still in for stack and eye does a bit of dmg on top of petrify but is 100% advoidable so it would be on individual players if they got hit.

But ast can help out a bit easier if in voice chat, stack person counts debuff from 5 once they say 3 pop CU between a gcd then drop before dmg hits so can start precasting heal and if you had earthly star down pop it the moment it hits, if not then CO between gcd heals. Main tank is priority for ED until 2nd Hell winds + flares due to 2 dps needing to enter the bleed puddles after getting down to 1 hp, ED is best heal between ast and sch there, if people are still low like <50k low lightspeed heal while going to position.

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This is a good reason to get in the habit of recording your runs. It's useful for looking back on your own mistakes and getting input from others. As it is, much as I would like to help we only have your word on how things went, and memory can be quite the unreliable narrator.

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This.

Shadowplay or OBS, record yourself for reference. It's amazing how many things you will be missing in the heat of progression. Whilst a video replay isn't as analytical as a log, it's a lot easier to self evaluate with and it really can shine a light on faults in your gameplay.

I think even PS4 can record. I know they can at least stream and catch the replay on twitch.

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I think even PS4 can record. I know they can at least stream and catch the replay on twitch.

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Yep double click the share button when your runs about to start and click it once when you wipe/end.

Yep, having your own PoV is valuable. Getting a battle log from someone on PC is also valuable if you are on PS4.

To me with raid try outs, I try to make sure the other healer that is likely making the call on me that they don't have to do "extra work" that probably didn't have to do before, along with keeping up with always casting. For a progression try outs like this, I think being vocal about what you can do to help push along after wipes if you feel that it may have been your fault can also go a long way. "I'll put CO up for this stack". Figuring out band-aids on-the-fly to get a raid group further is a good trait, it doesn't have to optimal and obviously you can rip these band-aids off if you figure out it's not needed anymore.

Yeah, I guess I need to get into a habit of documenting what's going on in my learning parties more often.

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Yep double click the share button when your runs about to start and click it once when you wipe/end.

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Not sure if there's a setting that changes the way the record feature works, but my PS4 constantly records, overwriting the oldest for a total of 15 minutes. So rather than pop it before a run, I just need to remember to pop it after the run.

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Not sure if there's a setting that changes the way the record feature works, but my PS4 constantly records, overwriting the oldest for a total of 15 minutes. So rather than pop it before a run, I just need to remember to pop it after the run.

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Oh I was just saying to double tap because it forces the PS4 to record a fresh clip that way Incase your doing something in between pulls or have to re instance and people go afk you don’t have all the fluff on the video.

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Oh I was just saying to double tap because it forces the PS4 to record a fresh clip that way Incase your doing something in between pulls or have to re instance and people go afk you don’t have all the fluff on the video.

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That's actually a really good point. I didn't even think about it that way.

Edit - I may need to start doing this, myself. XD

I handle the administrative tasks for my static, including recruitment. Additionally, I have been playing AST this tier.

Generally we trial anywhere from three to six people for a position. There have been some excellent players that I've had to turn away because there was someone else had better performance or whose personality matched the group more. If you feel like you did a good job then this is probably what happened.

I don't have access to the logs from your trial, but if your performance matched your previous logs then I'm not terribly surprised that they'd go with another applicant. From what I can see you underutilize your oGCD heals and CDs, use unnecessary healing GCDs extensively, have extremely low CPM (casts per minute), and refrain from using any cards. The small sample of logs I can see makes it impossible to tell if these are habitual practices or fluke occurrences.

If you contact me on Discord I can provide you with a more detailed assessment, guide you through what I'm seeing, and offer you specific feedback to help you improve. Qina#4625