Should Shoulder Tackle's no enmity stun effect be changed?

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03-16-2012, 12:24 AM
Zahak

Should Shoulder Tackle's no enmity stun effect be changed?

Playing around on monk and I have to say, Shoulder Tackle is a really fun ability. Do you monks think Shoulder Tackle should have a chance to stun whenever you use it? It would be more fun to use on bosses that take a while to kill if they did.
03-16-2012, 12:26 AM
Eruantien

I think it should be changed to if you do not have hate it has chance to stun increasing emnity.
03-16-2012, 12:34 AM
Zahak

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

I think it should be changed to if you do not have hate it has chance to stun increasing emnity.

When you say "do not have hate" do you mean no enmity bar? or just not the one with the most hate. Sounds like a good idea :)
03-16-2012, 12:37 AM
Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Lately I've been wondering about a lot of these job abilities as they seem to maybe have been created with PvP in mind. In particular I'm wondering how abilities like this will work against another player. Do you incur enmity from other players ? If not can you always stun another player with this ?
03-16-2012, 12:45 AM
Zahak

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Lately I've been wondering about a lot of these job abilities as they seem to maybe have been created with PvP in mind. In particular I'm wondering how abilities like this will work against another player. Do you incur enmity from other players ? If not can you always stun another player with this ?

Interesting question! I never thought about that one before.
03-16-2012, 01:05 AM
Richard_BG

It should be a chance to stun in combat as well.
03-16-2012, 02:38 AM
Zahak

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

It should be a chance to stun in combat as well.

100% agreed
03-16-2012, 04:46 AM
Vackashken

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Originally Posted by Zahak

100% agreed

Ditto .
03-16-2012, 08:14 AM
Almalexia

Would be nice, but I think the free damage every 60s spoils me enough.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Lately I've been wondering about a lot of these job abilities as they seem to maybe have been created with PvP in mind.

I get the impression Shoulder Tackle and FoW movement speed exist to quickly close the gap between us and a fight. Have you ever done moogle fight as PGL? Very embarrassing to chase mobs you can never reach until they say it's okay.
03-16-2012, 05:14 PM
Eruantien

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Lately I've been wondering about a lot of these job abilities as they seem to maybe have been created with PvP in mind. In particular I'm wondering how abilities like this will work against another player. Do you incur enmity from other players ? If not can you always stun another player with this ?

Yes I meant without flashing red emnity sorry, I was trying to distinguish no emnity and hate. I assume the ability would say when not attacking you similar to the lnc ability heavy thust which works in reverse to this, where you have chance to stun when the enemy is attacking you.
03-17-2012, 05:13 AM
Estellios

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Originally Posted by Almalexia

Would be nice, but I think the free damage every 60s spoils me enough.

I get the impression Shoulder Tackle and FoW movement speed exist to quickly close the gap between us and a fight. Have you ever done moogle fight as PGL? Very embarrassing to chase mobs you can never reach until they say it's okay.

This is what I believe. We have a really nice Stun in the form of Pounce as it is, and having even more stun isn't really beneficial with repeated Stuns getting reduced effectiveness till the stat effect timer is up. You can Pounce several times while waiting for Shoulder Tackle's recast, anyway.