Lancers Unite!

Calling all Lancers to talk about the beloved spear wielding class that still needs some work.

IE: The solely severe lack of Accuracy Bonus!

Though I don't mind the lack of wyvern but that would be nice, maybe they could make a dragoon class for that later? >.>

Yes, I wonder what the advance class will be for Lancer! I can't wait! I love lancer, it has a lot of potential with speed surge/life surge and other debuff/buffs. Just needs buffed a little. ALSO feint is the best weapon skill ever.

may be combined other class to transform an advanced class~xD
anyway, there will be a advance class?

I'm really hoping that they aren't thinking of adding a wyvern to the Lancer class. Though I don't mind being able to advance to Dragoon in the future ^_^

I definitely would like to have an accuracy bonus. It can get on my nerves, the amount I miss at times. Though, once I got Feint it has helped alleviate that issue a bit.

I'm really can't wait till our class becomes more defined. I really like the description of Lancer that they had on the main FFXIV site around when the game was released. Basically described it like the tank's backup in a party. Like when we are in a party and fighting a monster, then another monster comes out from nowhere. Then it starts to attack one of the mages, we're supposed to be the first ones to respond to situations like that. Plus, we have all those cool buffing and debuffing moves. Granted, they don't make much difference when the fights don't last long.

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may be combined other class to transform an advanced class~xD
anyway, there will be a advance class?

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This was mentioned in the last Letter from the Producer, I think, if not the polls. I know the idea of advanced class is being talked about, but before that can happen the game needs to be fixed, especially the battle.

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I'm really hoping that they aren't thinking of adding a wyvern to the Lancer class. Though I don't mind being able to advance to Dragoon in the future ^_^

I definitely would like to have an accuracy bonus. It can get on my nerves, the amount I miss at times. Though, once I got Feint it has helped alleviate that issue a bit.

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I agree, Feint DEFINITELY made things easier, and I'm happy to be able to use that ability in Pugilist class as well, especially since Feint does more damage than a regular melee hit, and takes very little stamina.

I think there should be a separate class for the wyvern, but it's hard to say since both classes would be TOO similar, iunless the Wyvern class would be a lot more pet based job, kind of like more so Beastmaster ish than Lancer.

Ok what would be cool is if for the advanced classes they gave you a choice of what you become. Like make a quest where you can either train to be a dragoon or a quest where you learn to be a pikeman or something like that.

Also I would like to agree Feint is awesome who needs accuracy when you can Feint :D

Anyone else really want Chocobo Knight?

I totally agree the wyvern should be a separate class as to be honest it just did not feel fitting to the advanced class. What I would love to see however is a more defining advanced class based on individuals play styles rather then just have the advanced class set in stone. One one side we could have a Dark Dragoon and on the other side a Holy Dragoon.

I hope that the "evil armor" is for Lancers :D, looks epic!

I want ma "Jump" nuff said.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

Anyone else really want Chocobo Knight?

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Hell yeah!

Also to those complaining about accuracy: Put some points in DEX and get a better weapon! I know very well that initially LNC seems to have terrible accuracy, but trust me by rank 35-40 with the right stats you won't be missing nearly as much. Feint is a great skill but don't rely on it completely because doing that will reduce your overall DPS, and that's not something you want to do with lancer!

Try talking to experts of other classes and you'll realize lancer is actually one of the most balanced classes in the game, fairly high accuracy, decent hp pool (although pretty terrible compared to other melee classes) and amazingly high DPS, second only to archer! (which is really the broken class at the moment).

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Originally Posted by Colino

Hell yeah!

Also to those complaining about accuracy: Put some points in DEX and get a better weapon! I know very well that initially LNC seems to have terrible accuracy, but trust me by rank 35-40 with the right stats you won't be missing nearly as much. Feint is a great skill but don't rely on it completely because doing that will reduce your overall DPS, and that's not something you want to do with lancer!

Try talking to experts of other classes and you'll realize lancer is actually one of the most balanced classes in the game, fairly high accuracy, decent hp pool (although pretty terrible compared to other melee classes) and amazingly high DPS, second only to archer! (which is really the broken class at the moment).

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It also gets a fairly decent MP pool too. My Lancer is 10 levels behind my Marauder and has nearly double the mana, it's definately the best class for solo grinding in my opinion.

i always keep my weapon updated and i never had any problem with accuracy.
also, keeping the dex capped helps. :3

for the advanced / combo class discussion, i'd like to see my beloved samurai back, and hopefully my profency with lances won't go waste, as they'll be able to use lance/spears as they did in XI.
also a lancer spec like there used to be in FFT wouldn't hurt: a pure knight with heavy armor and halberds, with jump of course. can't wait to see my wee-legs springing me to the moon.

I can't wait for to be able to Jump. Gets me so excited that I start to slip and speak Japanese lol. Though, I meant to say this earlier, I don't miss as much as I used to. I've been putting more in dex recently. Would be really interesting having some Sam abilities with the armoury system. Being able to mix and match some of them would be really nice. I'm still wanting to do a verson of SATA as Lancer. Call me strange, but that is something I would like to be able to do.

Yea i dont have problems with my accuracy but yea some MOBs really hard to hit always miss, dodge or something, but then is not the character fault or the system is just that the mobs really is hard to be hit, but if you miss a lot on low level mobs, your dex is definetely too low.

Also Lancer is indeed an fun class to play when you mix and match other instant cast debuff skills.

I hope they make a story quest for all the different advanced classes. If they do that you could have a choice of which advanced class you wish to become by the choice of which story quest you pick. I would be a dragoon.

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Originally Posted by Grundy

It also gets a fairly decent MP pool too. My Lancer is 10 levels behind my Marauder and has nearly double the mana, it's definately the best class for solo grinding in my opinion.

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Indeed I forgot to mention the awesome MP pool, I think it's either equal or very close to Archer which is quite a lot for a melee class.

woot lancers greatest class to walk the land of eorzea lancer rank 50 here :) on trabia server

I love my r50 lancer. Twisting Vice is the best WS in the game. I use it on ALL of my classes.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

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Yes Please :3

Another thing I really like about Lancer is multi-mob hits. Securing Horizons Edge on Lancer is so easy you can crank up the difficulty rating if you manouver the Amateur Footpad so that he is standing between you and the Amateur Raider and Spam Invigorate, Skewer, Trammel and Cure (when needed) as each hit goes through both mobs.

Loving LNC, can't wait for 50! I'm looking pretty fly right now with all my gearzzzz. I really hope that "Evil Armour" is for us, would be shweeet.

I'd love to see the Jump ability as a gap closer, more like a leap maybe? Leaping forward thrusting the polearm into the ground

I can't wait to get my Lancer to R50! Absolutly love it! :)

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

I think there should be a separate class for the wyvern, but it's hard to say since both classes would be TOO similar, iunless the Wyvern class would be a lot more pet based job, kind of like more so Beastmaster ish than Lancer.

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Why? Perhaps lancer is a precursor to DRG via FF tactics style of getting advanced jobs. Maybe you lose the life surge abilities for yourself and your pet adopts it instead. Etc etc etc. There are a myriad of ways to get our little Dragon back if we cry out for it long enough.

Don't capitulate - insist on their (or Dragons) rebirth.

Absolutely. Voting for Jump anytime.

Maybe Lancers could become "mounted" combatants, with multiple branches of advanced jobs:

Wyvern Knight - Gets a wyvern that can be ridden!
Chocobo Knight - Gets a chocobo that can be ridden.
Cavalier - Gets a horse that can be ridden.

Give bonuses to the party's combat while the * Knight is mounted. Granted this would make them stronger outside of dungeons than in, but this is an idea in progress.

I think there needs to be a "Lancer" LS on every server, and collect everyone that is maining Lancer! I am in IStory!

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

Anyone else really want Chocobo Knight?

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Yes please =)

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Originally Posted by Jigg

Maybe Lancers could become "mounted" combatants, with multiple branches of advanced jobs:

Wyvern Knight - Gets a wyvern that can be ridden!
Chocobo Knight - Gets a chocobo that can be ridden.
Cavalier - Gets a horse that can be ridden.

Give bonuses to the party's combat while the * Knight is mounted. Granted this would make them stronger outside of dungeons than in, but this is an idea in progress.

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I want!

Lancers are the glue that hold the party together. Do you ever notice that when you are a lancer in a party, everyone just lets you take lead. Lancer first to attack. Followed by the Tank. Lancer is the leading class, with party support.

Also as far as advanced classes go. I hope they combine the already existing classes to make the advance classes. R40 Marauder + R40 Lancer ='s Berserker. R40 Lancer + R40 Thaumaturge ='s Dark Dragoon. R40 Gladiator + R40 Conjurer ='s Mystical Night. That way you have to get high enough in the other Classes to Unlock the next class.

Holy Dragoon = Lancer 30 + Conjurer 30? or even 40 would work too.

Oh how I would cry tears of joy.

I love being a Lancer. Traditionally I'm some kind of sword-wielding melee fighter, but I've been trying things like lancing and arching in games and they're just too fun. The role of a lancer is also one of action, and I'm all for that.

I also can't wait for things that make these classes more defined.

Lancer in scale mail.... Sexy? yay or nay?

umm.. yay!

Yay..Sexy .YaY...I do enjoy my lancer and I am really excited about the idea of dragoon as a specialty/tree from lancer and maybe Pikesman as stated earlier". There is lack of core gameplay that makes a big handful of our specialy abilities rendered useless...I could be wrong on this but i have not had any luck using conclusion.Ive used it fully buffed wiit high base str ferocityII Raging strike Drain ATT and was last in a full Ws regiment with ATT down on the mob.And Did this 4 times in a row for very good dmg with conclusion on and the tank could still loose hate on the drop of a dime" i want to think this was atleast a decent tank as well". Doing all this. while risking death during an nm because im out of position- with no payoff is ridiculous.Ive also positioned a mage heal bombing a tank while fighting boars at lower rank and used conclusion with big hitting Ws's fully buffed, and not once seen the Mob turn towards the healor..And that one upset me...ARGH was trying trying to PK my buddy)

Agreed. I miss jumping. I miss my Wyvern too. Although, I haven't had much trouble with my accuracy. Only with a select few leve mobs have I really had a difficult time missing but that was compensated for with Feint. There was a list of classes that were found in the FFXIV files, none of them seemed to be anything like an expansion on Lancer. I would definitely like to see Lancer start leaning more toward a Dragoon type class with the jumping, and if no Wyvern then maybe breath attacks.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/96057...nline/54390240

Hmm. Kinda agree with judge_xero, although i think berserker is more towards marauder side than lancer, but i think all dragoon related advanced job should only be unlocked after we reached rank 50 lancer.

BTW lancer: speed surge II + full thrust = WS producing machine, still wondering how yoshi P going to translate this into auto-attack type battle system. And the evil armor is more akin to dark knight( marauder advance job with thaumaturge(?)), i think we' re gonna get a different armor(dragon armor ftw ;P) and i want to see a wyvern or any other small dragon companion ( hopefully armored too).

I miss my Wyvern companion and my Jump. Hopefully in the near future SE can add them both in some way, shape or form. That's one of the most important reasons in stuck with Dragoon and became a Lancer in FF XIV. I'm positive I'm not the only one.

Totally agreed, I would love to have a jump ability. Also sexy purple armor. Bring us the Dark Dragoon!

gay baby Wyvern all cute and cuddly? No thanks! Wyvern ability that lasts one attack and Wyvern swoops down from the sky to attack and flies off, or Wyvern battle mount? Yes please!

Jump for the love of god yesssss pleaseeeee, why the hell does archer and pug have a jumping animation move and lancer does not /cry

oh and heya Lancer represent!