[lore] Job NPCs know WoL's identity? (5.0 edition)

So by now in 5.0, I have been curious as the Job storyline continues....

How many of the Job NPCs even know WoL is the Warrior of Light people speak about?

Current I only am aware that Y'mhitra Rhul (SMN Job NPC) knows since she is Y'shtola's sister and her involvement in MSQ most likely made certain that WoL is the Warrior of Light due to stories about the Warrior of Light being with the Scions.

The other two are Radovan and Sophie (Gunbreaker Job NPCS) as they learn that WoL is the Warrior of Light in the lvl 70 quest which leads to the lore reason why they stop asking WoL to help them with the Bodyguard Jobs since they know he or she has better things to do after learning WoL's identity.

The other Job NPCs all appear to be unaware of WoL being the Warrior of light and still continue to treat him or her as just a normal Adventurer.

On that note...

It would be interesting to see how they all react once they learn WoL's Identity in hopefully future Role Quests where they are all gathered together for Role Quest story reasons in maybe 6.0.

Pretty sure everyone involved in the DRG storyline is aware. Same for the RDM since they are at least aware you were instrumental to freeing Ala Mhigo.

while i'm not positive the thaumaturgy guildmaster knows exactly, he's a bit more aware than any other class guildmaster ive found so far. he takes going to the First like it's a walk in the park for you.

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Originally Posted by Yuriane

while i'm not positive the thaumaturgy guildmaster knows exactly, he's a bit more aware than any other class guildmaster ive found so far. he takes going to the First like it's a walk in the park for you.

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Sound more like a Black Magic thing though.

The magic learned by Thaumaturgy and Black Mage does heavily involve magic that takes from the Void sometimes. Though of course the part of the magic involving the summoning of Voidsent are forbidden.

DRK seems pretty aware and flabbergasted far as I saw.

White Mage quest definitely knows seeing as she is the Elder seed seers sister.

dancer too seeing who the surprise person in lvl 70 is

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Originally Posted by Rannie

White Mage quest definitely knows seeing as she is the Elder seed seers sister.

dancer too seeing who the surprise person in lvl 70 is

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I think only Nashmeira know due to being old friends with that certain someone but Ranaa still remains a bit ignorant of the details since many adventurers took part in the battle of Ala Mhigo thus she only thinks WoL is only among the brave Adventurers who took part in the Battles.

Yeah I was talking about nashmeira lol couldn't remember her name off the top of my head while at work

Quite certain the later Paladin quests mentions you being the WoL a few times, and I'm fairly certain the Machinists would know as well, considering how nosy Stephanivian is when it comes to his fellow Machinists, not to mention the literal plot device he carries around with him all the time (the Prospectometer!)

Really, just about everyone in Eorzea should know by now. Randoms might not recognise you at first and order you around and such, but those NPCs tend to suddenly come to the realisation that "THAL'S BALLS! I just got the sodding WARRIOR OF LIGHT to do some tedious trivial errand!" by the time you come back to turn the quest in. I can't imagine that any of the trainers who you work with on a regular basis are so ignorant that they don't know who you are by *at least* level 70, surely.

I could see Curious Gorge being pretty oblivious. Of course most of the Warrior quests are best viewed with an imaginary laugh track playing in the background. Broken Mountain would probably know given that he works with officials in Limsa, but as far as I know there's not a specific mention of the player being WoL (although I could be mis remembering).

Most of the Stormblood Crafter class quests do to, especially GSM's.

A fairly significant amount of people in Eorzea in general know of our identity (both the player's actual name and their status as the Champion of Eorzea, the Warrior of Light and the Eikon Slayer - for instance if you returned to the class Guilds and spoke to the Guildmasters after the final ARR 2.55 main story quest was done they would all say the same thing about Monetarist agents visiting them trying to get information from the Guilds as to the Warrior of Light's whereabouts and the guilds all basically told the Monetarists in no uncertain terms to "take a hike", effectively protecting you from being discovered.

And if you spoke to certain Brass Blades and Crystal Braves around the same time in various locations most would either cower in fear and say nothing (afraid you would beat them up or worse), or would say "I'm on your side, and this discussion never took place, you were never here."

So it stands to reason the Jobs npcs would also know that too. Hells, a two-bit Ul'dahn merchant with a bad hairstyle in Kugane knew who were without ever having met us personally. ;) The fact is, we have one hell of a lofty reputation that follows us everywhere, even if we may not totally aware of it, and the Jobs npcs would have to be fairly dense if they didn't at least realize that eventually, if not knew from the beginning.

The vast majority of level 80 missions confirm that at least the class instructors know who you are, the thing is that many of them do not consider you as the Warrior of Light, they consider you as a friend as the relationship with Oboro(Nin Quest).

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Quite certain the later Paladin quests mentions you being the WoL a few times, and I'm fairly certain the Machinists would know as well, considering how nosy Stephanivian is when it comes to his fellow Machinists, not to mention the literal plot device he carries around with him all the time (the Prospectometer!)

Really, just about everyone in Eorzea should know by now. Randoms might not recognise you at first and order you around and such, but those NPCs tend to suddenly come to the realisation that "THAL'S BALLS! I just got the sodding WARRIOR OF LIGHT to do some tedious trivial errand!" by the time you come back to turn the quest in. I can't imagine that any of the trainers who you work with on a regular basis are so ignorant that they don't know who you are by *at least* level 70, surely.

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I think they only realize it once they put the pieces together. They know about the Warrior of Light but do not know WoL is the Warrior of Light more due to the different stories being told about him or her and soem stories may even exaggerate the WoL's appearance.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Hells, a two-bit Ul'dahn merchant with a bad hairstyle in Kugane knew who were without ever having met us personally.

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Not a particularly good example given Hancock was specifically told to expect the arrival of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn at the behest of Lord Lolorito. I expect he was briefed on their appearance and did further research on the Scions, of whom the most famous is the WoL. He didn't just conveniently stumble upon us at the Hostelry and throw open the doors of the Ruby Bazaar for use as a base out of charity.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Not a particularly good example given Hancock was specifically told to expect the arrival of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn at the behest of Lord Lolorito. I expect he was briefed on their appearance and did further research on the Scions, of whom the most famous is the WoL. He didn't just conveniently stumble upon us at the Hostelry and throw open the doors of the Ruby Bazaar for use as a base out of charity.

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Yep, Hancock is a person who prefers to be 100% informed with what he is dealing with as it is part of his Business to be well informed with his Clients. He would not be where he is now if not for this habit.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Yep, Hancock is a person who prefers to be 100% informed with what he is dealing with as it is part of his Business to be well informed with his Clients. He would not be where he is now if not for this habit.

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Hancock is too well informed imo... and he dubbed us Stealer of Pants... (while quite true he doesnt need to say it soooo flippantly.... >.<)

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Pretty sure everyone involved in the DRG storyline is aware. Same for the RDM since they are at least aware you were instrumental to freeing Ala Mhigo.

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I don’t think the RDM guy has a clue. He’s more concerned about training Arya. The closest thing he said about us and our power was that our skills have now surpassed his. He asked what we’ve been up to, which we reply by telling him about our exploits on the First. He just says,”Wow. Sounds like a challenge, even for a red mage!” And that’s literally it. Then it’s back to Arya.

I haven’t done the BLM 80 quest yet but at 70 the ONLY thing the guild was concerned about was me being the caretaker of Shatotto’s secrets - Shatotto being the founder of the black magic arts. And basically being her chosen successor.

That’s it. No WoL references or anything.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

Hancock is too well informed imo... and he dubbed us Stealer of Pants... (while quite true he doesnt need to say it soooo flippantly.... >.<)

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Does he omit Stealer of pants if you have not done the quest?

No clue haven't gotten that far on my alt. (My alt hasn't touched Hildebrand yet or gotten to sb. She's only to just before the Vault in HW. Been too obsessed with my main for now to play her)

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Does he omit Stealer of pants if you have not done the quest?

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I haven't done Hildibrand past the ARR quests, and still got that dialogue from Hancock.

Well damn, honestly it would have been funnier if they omitted it if you didn't do that particular quest line but ah well.

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Originally Posted by Lium

I don’t think the RDM guy has a clue. He’s more concerned about training Arya. The closest thing he said about us and our power was that our skills have now surpassed his. He asked what we’ve been up to, which we reply by telling him about our exploits on the First. He just says,”Wow. Sounds like a challenge, even for a red mage!” And that’s literally it. Then it’s back to Arya.

I haven’t done the BLM 80 quest yet but at 70 the ONLY thing the guild was concerned about was me being the caretaker of Shatotto’s secrets - Shatotto being the founder of the black magic arts. And basically being her chosen successor.

That’s it. No WoL references or anything.

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He personally knows Alisae so i think its very likely he knows because i doubt Alisae would not talk about us given her admiration.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Does he omit Stealer of pants if you have not done the quest?

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No, he doesn't. My first character did the Hildebrand quests, and I recognised the reference immediately, but this character hasn't done *any* Hildy quests yet and still got the Stealer of Pants title. Presumably this is either an oversight, or Hancock is actually referring to something else when he says Stealer of Pants. My money is on oversight, as even if you count looting pants in a dungeon as "stealing" them, it only really makes sense with the Hildy quest.

Or maybe Hancock is just that well informed that he knows things THAT HAVEN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET

The only thing that i feel could make sense outside Hildy questline is when we stole imperial uniforms back in 2.0, now if uniform was changed with clothes, then people could think we stole pants, rumors do have a habit of changing slightly the more times they are told.

He did say for that if "rumors are to be believed". Weird rumors and conspiracy theories about the WoL are probably around we just don't get to hear them often, and it doesn't help that some of them are probably right given the weird things we can get involved in.

Like stealing pants.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

He did say for that if "rumors are to be believed". Weird rumors and conspiracy theories about the WoL are probably around we just don't get to hear them often, and it doesn't help that some of them are probably right given the weird things we can get involved in.

Like stealing pants.

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I honestly would be surprised if there are not any weird stories about WoL considering the stuff they get into on side-quests and certain things WoL may do such as holding on to stacks of food for a long time.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I honestly would be surprised if there are not any weird stories about WoL considering the stuff they get into on side-quests and certain things WoL may do such as holding on to stacks of food for a long time.

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Between the Namazu and the Pixies, we sure have been getting a lot of jokes about the state of our bags lately...

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Between the Namazu and the Pixies, we sure have been getting a lot of jokes about the state of our bags lately...

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But it is the TRUTH!

When was the last time we checked the expired date for our stored foods and washed our own gears?

Pretty much everyone in the WHM area knows, if not fully then partially. Even the (guest NPC's) all remember you from previous exploits, one of which asking how you got to be so strong (which was almost joined at the hip with the actual ShB ending when the WoL was approached by that fascinated kid before the credits).

It's at a point where I just assume everyone knows. There's no reason not to assume this given we have had dealing with every major city on a very high level, handled primals and all manner of daunting tasks across every zone, and are forced to fetch-quest for... well, pretty much everyone.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

But it is the TRUTH!

When was the last time we checked the expired date for our stored foods and washed our own gears?

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I'm pretty sure after that incident with the Namazu puking in our bag we burned everything and bought new stuff.... probably burnt the bag as well

It is the fuel in which the namazu man burns brightly

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

But it is the TRUTH!

When was the last time we checked the expired date for our stored foods and washed our own gears?

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listen here, you

I won't hear a word against my three week old oysters in a half shell that I got from a quest a while back that I haven't gotten around to eating just yet