The Rework DRK Deserves

Another day, another DRK rework post... Warning. This will be long.

Goals of the rework The main goal of this rework is to strongly establish the identity that DRK was always meant to have: resource management. Having a job's abilities tied to resources rather than cooldowns gives players flexibility in how they play the job and how they respond to different situations. Anyone can press the damaging buttons as soon as they come off cooldown, but if every button you can press has a resource cost attached to it, pressing every button you see at will won't end well for you, so you'll have to think ahead. Cooldowns are much easier to use but they come at the cost of forcing downtime whereas a smart player using a resource management class can do what they whenever they want if they have planned ahead properly, and that is the essence of what has made DRK fun in previous iterations. This is the problem that causes 5.0 DRK to feel so sluggish and unsatisfying, every powerful action DRK has off the GCD has a recast time of at least 60 seconds excluding TBN and Darkside abilities. Simply reducing the cooldowns will do nothing to fix this, as the potencies will simply be adjusted to compensate and then you will just have to press buttons more often for the same effect.

Core Rework Philosophy The main themes/rules I'll be sticking to for this rework are as follows:
1) No long-cooldown abilities should cost resources. As previously discussed, cooldowns and resource costs achieve the same goal: limiting the usage of certain abilities. Having to wait for a cooldown only to spend resources on it when it's finally up feels terrible and is ultimately pointless.
2) No actions (with only one exception) should require you to use another action to receive it's full effect. This rule is a bit wordy, so my best example of what i'm talking about is how blood weapon and delirium worked in 4.x. You had to use blood weapon, then use delirium to extend it, then use dark arts twice to burn off the extra mp you just generated with delirium, on top of the mp you're getting from the initial usage of blood weapon. That is simply terrible design to have to press four oGCD buttons in a row to achieve such an effect, and so that's what I'll avoid.

Actions Removed/Added

Edge/Flood of Darkness/Shadow are the first to go. Simply put, actions such as these that convert mp directly into potency cannot exist on a job that is meant to budget it's resources to achieve the effects it needs to do it's job. Since DRK is a tank, that happens to be mitigation and healing. Nobody would ever choose to use a healing or mitigation ability if it caused them to lose 500 potency every time they did it unless the ability translated into damage later as well such as how TBN currently works. However, not every ability can work like TBN does, so edge and flood must go to open up space for DRK's kit.

Never fear, for Dark Arts is here (again) to fill up the mp dump gap that edge/flood left. Dark Arts was a case of a fantastic concept that was implemented poorly, and deemed bad design when it was actually quite genius. This time around, a couple measures will be taken to ensure that the new version of Dark Arts doesn't go out of control like it did in 4.x. The first is to simply reduce DRK's mp generation overall. Previously, DRK's mp restoring effects restored mp in increments of 1/2 or 1/5 the mp needed for one Dark Arts. Perhaps you can see the problem that those amounts don't line up nicely, which caused your mp to not quite line up with your mp costs nicely. To fix this issue while also tuning down the mp generation, all mp restoring effects will now generate 1/3 or 1/6 of the mp needed for one Dark Arts, which is now 1000 and 500. The second measure is to remove Dark Arts effects from all abilities not on the GCD. This should be self-explanatory. This resulted in forced double weaving too often with Dark Arts and Carve and Spit, and also breaks the second rule of "no buttons should make you press other buttons to get their effect" with the one exception being Dark Arts affecting abilities on the GCD.

Spinning Slash and Power Slash are back, more on those later

Mechanical Changes
Darkside now increases damage dealt by 10% and reduces spell/weaponskill recast times and auto attack delay by 10%
Blood Guage now fills up to a maximum of 120

Action Changes

Syphon Strike now has a potency of 280 and restores 1000 mp on hit

Soul Eater now has a potency of 380 and generates 10 blood on hit. Dark Arts potency: 500, Dark Arts effect: restores hp equal to damage dealt (cure potency 500 might be effectively the same?)

Unleash Identical except it now costs 1000 mp

Spinning Slash potency is 300

Power Slash potency is 400. Dark Arts potency: 550, Dark Arts effect: Darkside for 30 seconds. Gives you something to spend your mp on at least once every 30s. Potency increase from Dark Arts is also higher than on Soul Eater to make the combo more efficient mp wise while off tanking

Blood Weapon Now restores 500 mp and 3 blood for each time you deal physical damage to an enemy (functions identically in this regard as in 4.x). Recast time reduced to 30 seconds, duration increased to 15s

Salted Earth Potency remains 60, Duration: 21 seconds, Recast: 60 seconds. Generates 1 blood each time is deals damage to an enemy. Very important for this ability to hit 7 times and generate 1 blood each time. This allows the ability to generate 50 blood on it's own in pulls against 8 or more enemies, while also generating 7 against a single enemy which is most likely to leave you at a nice 10 with all the other effects giving 3 blood each.

Abyssal drain is back on the GCD (where it belongs) and reads: Deals damage with a potency of 300 evenly divided between the target and all nearby enemies. Potency cannot go below 150 for any enemy. Dark Arts potency: 500, Dark Arts effect: restores hp equal to damage dealt (cannot use cure potencies on this ability). Mp cost: 1000. The wording on this ability makes it so that it is usable against one enemy for 500 potency in damage and healing for 4000 total mp with the Dark Arts, while scaling up due to the minimum potency against large groups. It's use in single target fights will still be relatively niche unless burst healing is needed, but in that case it's fantastic for the job.

Carve and Spit Delivers a three-fold attack to the target. The potency and effects of this ability match those of the most recently used weaponskill. Recast: 60 seconds.
This can be used directly after and weaponskill replicate it's damage and effects, but is most useful when used to replicate a Dark Arts Power Slash when you're low on Darkside Time, a Dark arts Souleater for even more healing, or a bloodspiller for even more potency (600). Also can be used during blood weapon to restore 500 mp and blood

Bloodspiller remains at 600 potency. Dark Arts effect: Damage over time, potency 30, duration 30 seconds. 300 potency worth of damage for 3000 mp on top of the 50 blood cost. very high exchange rate on potency in comparison to the other abilities but it's over time so it must be maintained. Basically the new scourge.

Quietus bumped down to 200 potency. Additional effect: restores (500) mp per enemy hit. Having no Dark Arts effect on this one at all is pretty important actually, so you can store up a dark arts before using it to refill your mp fully against large pulls

Delirium Probably my favorite change of the rework. Simply gives two stacks of Dark Arts at the cost of 50 blood. (Dark arts can be stacked up to 5 although you'd never want to do that, all abilities consume one stack of Dark Arts rather than fading the effect like in 4.x.) Recast time reduced to 2 seconds. Since it's now on par for power level with bloodspiller and quietus, it can be used whenever you want, giving DRK's full freedom to generate extra effective mp even in single target fights if they don't want to use bloodspiller without the fuss of the 4.x delirium.

The Blackest Night Now gives 50 blood when it pops rather than the "Dark Arts" proc which will now be removed. This is why it's important for Delirium to give stacks of Dark Arts rather than just restoring mp or else you can go on an infinite loop of spending mp on TBN for blood and spending the blood on more mp

Stalwart Soul potency reduced to 150, still generates 20 blood, but now restores 500 mp for each enemy it hits, just like quietus. Dark Arts potency: 250, Dark Arts effect: Darkside for 30 seconds. very important to have darkside on this one so you don't have to do a full power slash combo on every trash pull to get the skill/spell speed

Dark Missionary Refreshes TBN effects on the target, extends their duration to 15 seconds, then spreads that effect to all nearby party members. Recast reduced to 60s. Recast time reduction justified by the resource cost of the initial TBN. the mitigation this skill provides now is just better in every way, it's wonderful.

Living Shadow is getting a huge change, and it would have to be accompanied by a new trait as well which I'll describe first, called Darkside Mastery. The trait would give you one stack of "surging Darkside" whenever you maintain Darkside for 30 seconds, maxing out at 4 stacks. Think of it like a polyglot stack in a way. Living Shadow Would say: Consumes 3 stacks of "surging Darkside" to deal damage with a potency of 450 to all nearby enemies. Additional effect: Increases damage dealt and reduces damage received by 20%. Duration: 18s The idea is based off the DRK in the shadowbringers trailer exploding in purple glory to one-shot innocence, so the animation should match. This ability would replace Dark Mind at level 80 as well. It's interesting to note how the cooldown/resource works on this skill. Since "Surging Darkside" can stack 4 times, but Living Shadow only costs 3, it can be used every 90 seconds, but you can potentially hold off on using it for up to 149 seconds before you generate a fifth stack of "surging Darkside" and begin to lose damage by not using the explosion and damage buff. Additionally, if you hold off for those 149 seconds to use it, you only have to wait 31 seconds before you can use it again, so if done well you can make use of this abilities damage buff while minimizing the amount of time you spend being vulnerable while it's on "cooldown" due to not having access to it's mitigation as well.

Final Thoughts There's a lot that I love about this rework. Mainly it's because it brings back the 4.x aoe rotation of bloodweapon, quietus, TBN, and abyssal drain to restore massive mp and health back to back, while also expanding on it thanks to stalwart soul. The Stalwart Soul combo is great for when you're low on resources and/or blood weapon is down, which will inevitably happen if your party is a little low on dps against large pulls. As for the single target rotation, you now have two buffs to maintain that cost mp and healing that can be done only by spending mp (none of the hp regen effects are free, for a reason), so a fair amount of decision-making must be done to maximize dps while also meeting the minimum healing/mitigation requirements. On top of that, the new delirium, which I love for it's 2 second recast time, allows you to convert blood you get from TBN into even more effective mp thanks to it giving two stacks of dark arts, so using your mitigation well expands the abilities of DRK's in single target fights greatly. I calculated how much mp a DRK will generate per minute using some rough numbers and it came out to around 24000 mp, enough for 8 uses of 3000 cost abilities. For optimal dps, 4 of those will be used every minute to maintain Darkside and Bloodspiller's dot, leaving the other 4 to be used how you see fit either on healing, mitigation, or more damage. I'd love to hear your feedback on this rework assuming you read all the way through, I've pored over it myself quite a few times and I'm having a hard time finding any design flaws in it.

Nerf^^ not a buff

I don't think Dark Knight needs a full on rework again. Right now it simply needs a bit more resource generation, especially in AoE. living Shadow needs an additional component.

I personally would want Darkside's duration from Flood and Edge reduced so it isn't so easy to maintain, but that takes a bit more than I'm willing to write right now. Having a Polyglot ramping Darkside effect though, that could be interesting.

Considering that DRK went from the least played tank to the most played, I'd say posts like this are a waste of time

It doesn't need a rework again it needs a few tweaks and that's about it, more MP from Siphon (in PvP it gives 1000 all they gotta do is make it 1000 in PvE for example), Dark Mind needs to be like RI/Heart of Stone, they nerfed it from 30>20% because it's magic only and very situational and bad, Living Dead needs to be from 100% HP > 50% HP since you're wasting essentially 120k HP on 1 CD in healing resources, and make TBN available at 60 and Delirium at 70.

If those changes were to happen it'd put DRK in a better place but as it stands even though I main DRK I know it has issues and it could be in a better spot but your rework sounds like it'll be awkwardly resourced as well as awkward to me so it's a pass unfortunately.

These long posts are a waste of time. All 4 tanks were relatively standardized. They aren't going to back on that

I've loved the idea of a pure resource management tank since 3.x and like this rework for that reason. Not gonna hold my breath though.

The current hybrid build between WAR and old DRK is lacking bc there is a gap in the resource generation loop among other issues which have been spelled out all over the DRK threads. Instead it's blow everything you have then build it back up and wait for the CDs. The model should be freely transferring your resources between mp and blood, while maintaining hp levels, and doing damage/mitigating in the process.

All that being said I'd cut spinning slash. If you want it for keeping the math on mp generation the same then attach a non mp resource to it or give it a part time buff.. Something subtle like increased parry rate or slight shield mechanic from GNB. If it's just going to be there for the sake of getting to power slash the cut it.

That said, I like it, it would rather play it than our current version.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

Considering that DRK went from the least played tank to the most played, I'd say posts like this are a waste of time

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I haven't seen anything to suggest this is the case but assuming you're correct I think after all those who played it for the msq go back to their mains, which are all in better shape according to fflogs, you'll see the same numbers from SB.

DRK needs buffs, it's at the bottom in multiple catagories... Again.

Could not disagree more about these post being worthless. Do I honestly think SE will do this massive of a rework post expansion launch? No. But is it worth letting them know how we feel about our jobs and what we wish for them to be? Yes, absolutely.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

Considering that DRK went from the least played tank to the most played, I'd say posts like this are a waste of time

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doubt that is true but, sure like the big signboard saying become the warrior of darkness with a high resolution DRK have nothing to do with that.

it's a interesting proposal, solves many problems of the current DRK like the lack of resource managemet, the downtimes, Delirium being a bland copy of inner release, better dark missionary and living dead, i overall like it and i wish SE make an effort for once to fix this mess of a job before next expansion.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

These long posts are a waste of time. All 4 tanks were relatively standardized. They aren't going to back on that

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standardized on performance shouln't never mean make the gameplay the same, we don't have 4 tanks to end playing most of them like WAR so this post is not a waste of time, we can even bring the original HW DRK and with a few number tweaks being balanced with the other tanks and being diferent with is the main point of this threads.

a post like this pop up every few days, realistically they're not going to rework a job mid-expansion, much less bring it back to a state from 2 expansions ago. While a lot of people seem to not like some of the things they did with DRK, it is functional, and relatively balanced when compared to other tanks.

The only real issue I see is Living Dead. With the scaling (and lack of) of tank HP and Heal throughputs, it's unrealistic to expect non-WHM to deal with Walking Dead effectively.

Otherwise I personally haven't had any issue with the new DRK, dungeon or raid. It plays nothing like Warriors in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

Considering that DRK went from the least played tank to the most played, I'd say posts like this are a waste of time

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Actually, GNB is the most played tank across the board, based on statistics from the new content. It's relatively low effort for high reward, and it does have a certain amount of charm to it.

There are probably a few things that could be improved on for DRK, in particular dps output, Living Dead, and the fact that Dark Missionary only works on magic damage despite having the same recast as SiO and DV. I wouldn't mind these "physical only" and "magical only" cooldowns if they designed balanced fights. But when you create a physical only fight for a raid tier, it becomes a pretty terrible concept.

Complete unbalance.

DRK is really good now and I don'1t want anything to be reworked.

3.0 DRK was all everyone loved, and the parry>reprise interaction is now represented in The Blackest Night>Edge of Shadow.
I don't want DRK to have speed, it's already difficult to double weave.

It get's me triggered to have to read such ingenuous things, did you just mocked up this reword in 30 mins? Do you actually know how unbalanced and overpower DRK will become over the other 3 tanks? I think you don't have any idea. You just want to become powerful.
You can't simply add things, you need to remove from one part to add in the other, because all 4 tanks are mathematically balanced. If you don't do the balance, might not put any potency.

Considering Dev reads all over the feedback, I need to take this kind of thread REALLY seriously. BIG NO.

Sounds like a HW version of Dark Knight with ShB abilities. What would this serve besides living in a past iteration of DRK?

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Originally Posted by DJMau

Sounds like a HW version of Dark Knight with ShB abilities. What would this serve besides living in a past iteration of DRK?

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as you can see many ppl don't like the job lose all his original mechanics and become a pseudo WAR instead of evolved by himself and being unique, it's normal ppl ask to DRK become what it was but taking the best of each expansion.

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Originally Posted by shao32

as you can see many ppl don't like the job lose all his original mechanics and become a pseudo WAR instead of evolved by himself and being unique, it's normal ppl ask to DRK become what it was but taking the best of each expansion.

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"original mechanics" DRK never had an original concept. It came to be as a job that played exactly like PLD in 3.0, with extra tools that made the latter completely worthless for 2 years. The people who complain about Delirium not being interesting, I am sorry but 4.0 extra mana was even worse, you are just asking more of the same old 1.2.3 weave in between. All tanks are like WAR in some way, but I don't see people complaining at PLD or GNB. If you really want to make DRK not like WAR, you also need to remove Bloodspiller and Quietus, does that look interesting to you now?

I think I have already said it in another thread, but Delirium as it is now is very important to DRK rotation, otherwise you are gonna cap resources while weaving, unless you make obligatory to double-weave, which would kill the job for everyone who didn't live near the servers.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

"original mechanics" DRK never had an original concept. It came to be as a job that played exactly like PLD in 3.0, with extra tools that made the latter completely worthless for 2 years. The people who complain about Delirium not being interesting, I am sorry but 4.0 extra mana was even worse, you are just asking more of the same old 1.2.3 weave in between. All tanks are like WAR in some way, but I don't see people complaining at PLD or GNB. If you really want to make DRK not like WAR, you also need to remove Bloodspiller and Quietus, does that look interesting to you now?

I think I have already said it in another thread, but Delirium as it is now is very important to DRK rotation, otherwise you are gonna cap resources while weaving, unless you make obligatory to double-weave, which would kill the job for everyone who didn't live near the servers.

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HW was nothing like PLD or WAR, mana management, buffs mechanics, combo system, DRK was based on speed, management and priority system wich was unique and original since only another job play like that with MP and BLM is not even comparable.

delirium concept and being mor or less impactfull doesn't matter since is the whole kit that matters, old delirium was fine as a desing concept, it could get rid of his blood cost if you want it more impactful but copy pasting inner release not only proof lazynes but kills diversity, we are the only role in the game that 3 jobs already have this nonesense, 1 is fine 3 is tedious and kills the jobs for anyone that don't like this mechanic.

PLD at least take the effort to make something diferent with his requem cast window and GNB doesn't have a spam window, it have no mercy with is a worse fight or flight but the way the job manage the burst window is nothing like PLD one at all.

DRK problems of double weaving come from DA long animation, edge have a way short anymation and most important it was imposible overcap MP on SB or HW excep you are bad, the only problem of overcapping DRK did have in the past was blood and that was bcs TBN giving a huge chunk of it and thats have been solved. weave a lot of oGCD it's fun and having 1 tank doing this doesn't hurt anyone since it have 3 other options that dont do that.

Came in expecting to be disappointed OP, but your ideas are actually pretty dope. If SE decided to one day make DRK exactly like you've suggested, it'd probavly be enough to make me main it again. There is one thing I disagree with though, I do not think Delirium should take awau from any resources. It's kind of just always been that resource generator rather than consumer, and I feel like it should stay that way. So, for suggested Delirium, I believe it should simply grant the stacks of Dark Arts without consuming any Blood.

Also, LOL at the people who keep echoing "threads like this are pointless". You all can't be serious. The whole POINT of these forums is to provide feedback to the devs, trying to discourage somebody from making a post doing just that makes you look very foolish. Even if the devs won't do another complete rework, at least getting ideas in their head or simply just getting them to think about things is very good. Bottom line is, this is hands down the most boring, uninspired, and stale DRK has ever been (before people try to invalidate my opinion, I've mained DRK for years now and also leveled it to 80 weeks ago). When you set its toolkit side by side with any other Tank's, it's almost sad to see how much less depth and freedom DRK has. I mean, heck, DRK is literally the only Tank with one single target combo.

DRK dont need revamps, it just needs tweaking.

1- abyssal drain and Salted Earth needs to change.
1.1 - Abyssal needs its healing increased to work on solo targets, cooldown reduced to 30sec and eficiency halved to balance.
1.2 - Salted earth needs to go, or be made part of Abyssal Drain, or work somewhat like bowshok(GNB). It annoys me that such a uselees skills needs to to be placed instead of being pointblank.

2- Delirium and living shadow are very boring skills.
2.1 - If i wanted a cheap inner release, i would play a warrior, new delirium is just lazy design. Maybe they should give the haste effect back to blood weapon, and have delirium extend it again, like SB, having the DRK being fast and demanding for some time would actually seem very nice.
2.2 - Living shadow is a glorified dot, boring and lazy design.

3- Dark Arts as it stands right now, its high risk for neutral reward. it should at least make the next edge/flood cost no mana AND be powered up... add a DOT or more potency to dark arts edge/flood. (hello high ceiling)

4- Stwart Soul. granting MP and blood gauge is really reason enough to lose 100 potency, in comparison to the other tanks AOE combos? GNB gets the equivalent of 50 blood in one combo.

5- DRK AOE combo not being affect by skill speed seems like a design oversight, and should be changed.

6- TBN and Dark missionary.
6.1- TBN only needs its duration increase at least to 9sec. Also like i said above, a poped TBN should give free powered edge/flood.
6.2- I think Dark Missionary should be an AOE TBN, weaker of course... its just goes with the theme.
6.3- some degree of complexity could be added by having dark missionary gives an extra layer of bonus defense to someone with TBN active.

Anyway, i think square dumbed down DRK, is to catter to the new players joining the game in ShB. Its a smart move (marketing wise) to make the poster boy easy to play.

I miss old Abyssal Drain for dungeons because it was useful for keeping up threat while running from pack to pack. Otherwise I'm completely satisfied with the new DRK and I've been a DRK main since the end of HW, more or less.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

"original mechanics" DRK never had an original concept.

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Of course it had an original concept. Only problem, all of the good stuff has been nerfed to a state of being unrecognizable, slashed from the hot bar (& given to a new tank job) or whored out the the rest of tanks (in the case of gap closers, whored out and improved). The only exception to this is LD. The one ability that has been horrible and most sane players have complained about from day one.

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Originally Posted by Dtrip19

Another day, another DRK rework post... Warning. This will be long.

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While I disagree with the way you want to rework the class. I do agree the class need to be scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up like they did with MCH. Sure MCH did get kinda a dumbed down but more fun version of their class. The biggest problems right now with the dark knight is they do not know what they want to do with the class. It honestly feels like they are trying to make a Blood Death Knight and cram it into a Warrior Kit. Which basic makes us an emo crap warrior. It like everything we do. A warrior does better. This really needs to change. They need to stop making us an emo version of the Warrior. Give us our own identity. Let us be more evil and focus on using the abyss.

I also disagree with everyone who says we do not need a rework. Tell me what do we bring to the table that a Paladin, Warrior, or Gunbreaker does not brings to the table? DPS? nope Gunbreaker and warrior beats us? Utility? Nope Paladin and Warrior has better utility then us? Defensive cooldowns? Well ok Blackest Night is pretty op and about the only reason you want us there to eat tank busters for days. Yet really is that what you honestly want to be? A one button class? Do you want us to be only used for Blackest Night?

Dark Knight actually is ok as far as raw numbers go
My ideal rework to get rid of quirks and clunks would go like this...

Dark Mind: includes a parry buff so it can be minimally useful outside of magic tankbusters
living dead: gets a full on rework along the lines of upon death enters state of living dead for 6s cutting max hp by 50% but cannot fall below 1hp. After duration ends revive and heal 20% max hp.... retains the "flavor", is no longer a death sentence when your solo, and if healers are on par you can potentially come back at 70% hp once it ends keeping you out of danger zone
Salted earth, abyssal drain, and Carve and Spit get the axe
Bloodspiller and quietus inherit the mp regen from carve and spit. More overall mp regen over time -> more edge of shadow -> more damage than carve and spit would offer ; also more aoe friendly and would theoretically make delirium more interesting and powerful
Edge and Flood of Shadows inherit the healing from abyssal drain. Abyssal drain is kind of pathetic overall, would give some self sustain probably still lower than warrior but way better than current
Living shadow uses Dark knight version 1.0 skills salted earth, dark passenger, scourge, etc... get to have the nostalgia of old skills and they can obviously just get potency adjusted to do the damage the shadow is meant to do
The Blackest Night: duration increase to 9s, seriously have no problem with it being resource management rather than cooldown management but the way stuff seems to just decide to be less aggressive when it's up is so annoying. 2s doesn't seem like much but it would go a long way for a defense your praying fails every time you use it


and while i'm at it... Warrior spender's should all get something along the lines of extends storm's eye by 5s or 10s or something. Not enough to keep it up indefinitely but enough to keep it from being a constant annoyance

my opinion constantly evolves as i play though so don't quote me on these thoughts in the future

I like most of this. I wouldn't add a DoT to Bloodspiller. It creates a very specific type of rotation in which you need to spend at very specific points to maintain the DoT, and I'd prefer to not have an entirely DoT-centric rotation just for like 300 potency.

At this point the DRK fanbase is so fractured that there is no way that SE can ever make a DRK that everyone will like. For me DRK would have to return to its resource management roots and stable DPS. I would get rid of everything that has been added changed since HW since nothing that has been added can't be found somewhere else done better (fell cleave/decimate and Inner Release), the only thing I would keep is the TBN.

SE has removed everything I liked about my favorite tank and whats left is a color swap of warrior.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

Considering that DRK went from the least played tank to the most played, I'd say posts like this are a waste of time

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I doubt they're the most played, at least not because they're in a good spot. I'm sure it's because they're the poster child for the current expac and a lot of people wanted to play it for the role playing aspect.

In practice, it performs well enough but could use some tweaks, such as the age-old concern of living dead being bad.