Really enjoyed the non-quest related NPC dialogues.

Throughout ShB it was really enjoyable getting to read the changing dialogues of all the NPCs as events took place. I took the pain of going around talking to each non-quest related NPCs to see what they said about the sky changing/big event that was happening. It really helped to immerse me even more into the story. I'm really glad the team took the time to do that for us. :o I don't know if they did this in the past expansions but I hope they continue to do this in the future. Getting to know the stories of various characters as situations changed was thrilling.

They hit all the right spots for me in this expansion. My favorite by far from all the previous ones. These tiny tidbits of extra was icing on the top!

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who does this - I have always loved to go talk to non-quest NPC's to see what they have to say. It always adds to the flavor of the area/region/etc to do so, and it's doubly so in Shadowbringers due to the changes that happen in the zones depending on where you are in the story - really fills out the whole atmosphere for me.

Even a lot of the quest dialogues change significantly based on whether you do them before/after you've "cleared" the respective zone.

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I'm glad that I'm not the only person who does this - I have always loved to go talk to non-quest NPC's to see what they have to say. It always adds to the flavor of the area/region/etc to do so, and it's doubly so in Shadowbringers due to the changes that happen in the zones depending on where you are in the story - really fills out the whole atmosphere for me.

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Kindred spirits!~ Haha^^ I'm glad other people enjoyed it just as much as I did.

This and also loved the dialogue you get from talking to the Scions and such btwn quest progression. But yeah, you bet I ran around the Crystarium on chat bubble roundups each time there was a story beat involving it. ^_^

I didn't read all the townspeople's dialogue every time on my main character, but I'm planning to do it on my alt (now that I'm not so desperate to find out what happens next in the MSQ!). I do make sure to talk to all of the Scions and other major characters between quest objectives though.

Back in Heavensward (and spoiler-tagging just to be safe)...

the real potency of Haurchefant's death wasn't its impact on our character, but on going back to Camp Dragonhead and talking to all the people around there that had something to say about it. And then their scripts update after finishing Heavensward and again after Dragonsong, as they start to come to terms with it. Francel has particularly lovely things to say, and I really hope he get some further plot involvement soon.

I would like them to visually indicate a new dialogue is available in certain NPC with a new icon. I always feel that I'm missing a dialogue every time.

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I didn't read all the townspeople's dialogue every time on my main character, but I'm planning to do it on my alt (now that I'm not so desperate to find out what happens next in the MSQ!). I do make sure to talk to all of the Scions and other major characters between quest objectives though.

Back in Heavensward (and spoiler-tagging just to be safe)...

the real potency of Haurchefant's death wasn't its impact on our character, but on going back to Camp Dragonhead and talking to all the people around there that had something to say about it. And then their scripts update after finishing Heavensward and again after Dragonsong, as they start to come to terms with it. Francel has particularly lovely things to say, and I really hope he get some further plot involvement soon.

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Oh wow, I didn't know about that dialogue around Haurchefant in Havensward, at the time I was so focused on completing the story fast that I didn't take that time to interact with any of the NPCs. Hopefully with new game + I'll go back and read everything. Thanks for sharing that!

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Oh wow, I didn't know about that dialogue around Haurchefant in Havensward, at the time I was so focused on completing the story fast that I didn't take that time to interact with any of the NPCs. Hopefully with new game + I'll go back and read everything. Thanks for sharing that!

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You can read over most of it from the Garland Tools scripts in the Talk Dialogue tabs:

A Knight's Calling

Heavensward - interestingly there seems to be a "deleted scene" in the last few lines under the main Dialogue tab, as there's text for Edmont, Aymeric, Artoirel and Emmanellain that follows on from the ceremony during the credits and I was unable to find the characters saying this in-game. I'm guessing they were supposed to be at Fortemps Manor immediately after the credits.

Litany of Peace


One thing that doesn't turn up in Garland's scripts because it doesn't handle menu dialogue well is Corentiaux, Haurchefant's assistant who gives the "what do you do here?" standard information for Dragonhead... until you try asking him that after the Vault, and the poor guy only gets a sentence or two into it before apologising and saying he can't handle it right now.

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You can read over most of it from the Garland Tools scripts in the Talk Dialogue tabs:

A Knight's Calling

Heavensward - interestingly there seems to be a "deleted scene" in the last few lines under the main Dialogue tab, as there's text for Edmont, Aymeric, Artoirel and Emmanellain that follows on from the ceremony during the credits and I was unable to find the characters saying this in-game. I'm guessing they were supposed to be at Fortemps Manor immediately after the credits.

Litany of Peace


One thing that doesn't turn up in Garland's scripts because it doesn't handle menu dialogue well is Corentiaux, Haurchefant's assistant who gives the "what do you do here?" standard information for Dragonhead... until you try asking him that after the Vault, and the poor guy only gets a sentence or two into it before apologising and saying he can't handle it right now.

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Another pretty poignant thing is that...

There's a radiant event with Haurchefant's grave as well. I can't remember if there were earlier variants as it's been years but by the time Shadowbringers was about to drop the moment you got close to the grave Francel would appear and pray over it. Saying "It doesn't get any easier, does it?" or something to that effect before walking away. It's little touches like that that and everything you mentioned that make me love this game all the more.

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Another pretty poignant thing is that...

There's a radiant event with Haurchefant's grave as well. I can't remember if there were earlier variants as it's been years but by the time Shadowbringers was about to drop the moment you got close to the grave Francel would appear and pray over it. Saying "It doesn't get any easier, does it?" or something to that effect before walking away. It's little touches like that that and everything you mentioned that make me love this game all the more.

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Oh goodness yes, that as well.

As soon as I was out of the credits for Heavensward, I went looking for the grave and found him there, and it set me crying all over again.

There are actually two speech bubbles from that event but you need to get there quickly to be in 'hearing range' for the first one - he says "hello again, old friend" as he kneels at the grave.

Yeah you're not alone on reading what the non quest NPCs have to say. It's part of the fun for me and it adds quite a bit to the story. I like to have other NPC reaction to what is going on in the story.

I kind of miss Francel. There's something about him that I really like.

Going to Camp Dragonhead after the Vault was both my biggest mistake and the best thing ever. I wish i could hug NPCs.

I like Francel too. All of the Haillenarte family seem like really nice people.

I'm hoping he'll get a part in the Ishgard restoration quests.

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Another pretty poignant thing is that...

There's a radiant event with Haurchefant's grave as well. I can't remember if there were earlier variants as it's been years but by the time Shadowbringers was about to drop the moment you got close to the grave Francel would appear and pray over it. Saying "It doesn't get any easier, does it?" or something to that effect before walking away. It's little touches like that that and everything you mentioned that make me love this game all the more.

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Oh! Omg wow....that makes a lot of sense now. I've always wondered who that npc that would appear whenever I visited his grave was. I just thought it was a random touch, this makes me regret rushing through the story. I don't think I ever will again though, these little things, imo, are worth taking the time to enjoy each launch. I think the smart thing to do would be to be sure I'm not with any raid groups in the beginning because it's the main reason why I didn't take the time before to read anything. I think I will definitely go back and re-enjoy past launches properly when I have the time to.

I absolutely loved the lesser NPCs, nameless NPCs, all the attention to dialogue in Shadowbringers. It made me really care a lot for the First and feel far more responsible for the events that happen throughout the story. Please, please keep such attention to detail in the future too when possible!
The localization was truly masterful!

Things like this are why I cannot wait for New Game +.

Additionally re. Francel, for anyone who hasn't read the side stories, this one is about him and Haurchefant. (spoiler warning for HW on the unlikely chance anyone concerned is still here reading this)

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I absolutely loved the lesser NPCs, nameless NPCs, all the attention to dialogue in Shadowbringers. It made me really care a lot for the First and feel far more responsible for the events that happen throughout the story. Please, please keep such attention to detail in the future too when possible!
The localization was truly masterful!

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This kind of detail has been around since HW. I used to get a kick of walking around Ishgard listening to all the gossip.

I don't think Stormblood got a mini side story with only chat bubbles like HW got, did it? i know in Ishgard you got that story about the woman who was supposed to marry some noble and fled to Idlyshire with her love.

Did i miss the Stormblood one or did they just not add anything like that this time around? It was pretty fun to see how the story was developing as the patches dropped.

@Iscah. Thanks! I've read that one but I tend to lose track of the mini stories since you need to wait a long time in between them. Now i can refresh my memory and hopefully it'll give me access to the Stormblod ones too

Oh wow, I really didn't think anyone else did this. Maybe read the optional Scion lines at best, but others actually checked all the NPCs at the Crystarium and the like? That's so cool to know.

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@Iscah. Thanks! I've read that one but I tend to lose track of the mini stories since you need to wait a long time in between them. Now i can refresh my memory and hopefully it'll give me access to the Stormblod ones too

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You're welcome! The main page for all the stories is here.

I assume we'll be getting "Tales from the First" at some point too!

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You're welcome! The main page for all the stories is here.

I assume we'll be getting "Tales from the First" at some point too!

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I love you. The website was driving me crazy.