Is Pagos really that bad solo?

Apologies if I posted this to the wrong board, I’m still new to the forums. Feel free to redirect me to a more appropriate board.

So I’m looking to get the behemoth pelt from a fate (I think it’s a fate) in pagos, but after chatting with some players in anemos and doing some research I came to the conclusion pagos is god awful for solo players. So right now I’m really really tempted to buy it off the market board for I think 500k, could be 400k but all you need to know is it’s bloody expensive off the mb. So I would like to ask, is pagos really that bad solo?

I’m a WHM who just arrived in anemos fyi

It's not great in a group so I can't imagine it's better solo.

If I were you I would just drop 500k on a pelt and save yourself the hassle. Seriously.

I don’t recall anything Eruekan being remotely enjoyable

Man it’s really that bad that it’s better to fork over 500k for a item used exclusively for a glam? Damn, I guess I’m gonna fork over the 500k to save me presumably hours of suffering, I did get a mil from transferring to Brynhildr so what the hell.

Thanks guys, have a good one

Pagos is perhaps the worst content the ever added to the game. Yes, it is that bad.

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Originally Posted by E4EO

Man it’s really that bad that it’s better to fork over 500k for a item used exclusively for a glam? Damn, I guess I’m gonna fork over the 500k to save me presumably hours of suffering, I did get a mil from transferring to Brynhildr so what the hell.

Thanks guys, have a good one

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In my honest opinion? Yes, it really is that bad. lol 500k is a small price to pay when compared to the torment that is Pagos.

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Originally Posted by Conando

Pagos is perhaps the worst content the ever added to the game. Yes, it is that bad.

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Agree with this sentiment. Eureka was like they took everything that was bad about old MMOs and shoved them into one place. I'm actually surprised there are still people there past the first instance after ShB's release.

First, 500k isn't a terrible amount. There's genuinely not a lot to be spending gil on, unless you're after housing. It piles up over time.
Second, 500k is an indication of how unpleasant it is to acquire. You're paying someone else to go through the hassle.

Third, how you find Eureka depends on what your expectations are, what you want out of it, etc. It's rarely as bad as everyone would make it seem.

But, be mindful that Anemos is the easy zone. It can be easy to navigate, easy to get around, sorta easy to solo. Pagos is a little more of a hassle. But as long as you know aggro types, it's not all that much of a bother.

Finally, assuming it comes from the Behemoth-esque NM, it's fairly high level, and you'll be unlikely to be able to solo it in any case.

I probably killed the behemoth atleast 20 times and never got a pelt. I don't know if one participant is guaranteed an item in Eureka's NM battles or not, but back when it was popular content, these NMs were known for their abysmal droprates.

500k is nothing.

500k is literally nothing. Gather some items for 10-20 mins and you are good x)

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Originally Posted by Conando

Pagos is perhaps the worst content the ever added to the game. Yes, it is that bad.

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Even over Diadem?

I spent one (1) hour solo in whatever the first Eureka zone is (because shouting looking for a group got me approximately zero responses or invites) and it was so dreadful that I have never once been back.

I'd be shocked if any of it at all was less awful solo.

Anemos was fun when the trains got rolling. Pagos took active steps to kill the trains, and the fun died with it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Anemos was fun when the trains got rolling. Pagos took active steps to kill the trains, and the fun died with it.

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Yeah. They tried to "fix" that eventually but by that point the damage was already done. A lot of people simply couldn't be bothered and I couldn't blame them. I didn't enter Pagos until well after they made it easier (though still horrible) and I was in and out of there in about 2 weeks I think playing casually. It was a place best completed in small doses.

I love pagos and play solo sometimes, I don't think it's bad at all. I like things to be a bit hard though. Makes it feel like I actually accomplished something.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Even over Diadem?

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It’s effectively the same thing as Diadem.

It's gonna be really bad for new players to solo there. But if you have full elemental gearset+Phsyeos weapon, then it's easy to solo stuff there for mobs up to level 38 and NMs that you have to level sync for. I managed to solo spawn King Artho and kill it that way.

But yeah, paying 500k is the better option to save yourself from the headache of spawning the NM and killing it and hope for the drop (didn't get the belt from Artho when I killed it).

Pagos is way faster solo in my experience, but it depends on what you're doing. If you on the light phase then absolutely solo is the best. If you are farming bunnies or leveling up then going in a party is better

They gated relic weapon / armor behind Eureka which I never liked. Instead of doing that they could have come up with another idea to get people to use the content. This was a chance to really be creative and give us a fun leveling experience.

Instead we got punished for dropping chains in Pagos initially and then SE realised that the NM train was what people really wanted so they gave us that option back 3 or so weeks after the content was released. By then Pagos was already stigmatized by the player base for being terrible. The sleeping dragons being placed around the map didn't really add anything either.

The only good things to come out of Eureka were the logos system which let roles use abilities they don't usually have access to and Baldesion Arsenal.

I thought the point of Eureka (including Pagos) was to party up with people and that doing any of that content solo was not recommended.

Also, after the changes to Pagos it seemed fine. I only went through it after the changes and it's my 2nd favorite zone out of the 4 (and really close behind Pyros).

The farm for the shiver emote was god awful, and before they heavily beefed it, I bought it at the lowest ever price of 35mil. It dropped dramatically after the nerf, so I am kicking myself a bit for that XD

I did eureka back in SB when people were actually doing it and I didn't even know this behemoth pelt was a thing.

So yeah 500k is nothing for what a player would have to go through to get it now, especially in pagos which basically everyone hates with a burning passion.

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Originally Posted by Orbus

I did eureka back in SB when people were actually doing it and I didn't even know this behemoth pelt was a thing.

So yeah 500k is nothing for what a player would have to go through to get it now, especially in pagos which basically everyone hates with a burning passion.

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It's even 130K on Cactuar. So an even better option than to try to spawn Behemoth.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

It's even 130K on Cactuar. So an even better option than to try to spawn Behemoth.

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Hell I'm a casual crafter and I make glams worth more than that.

Pagos is not bad. But if you'r farming for a very specific item... then you may be there awhile...

500k is practically nothing. I would just buy the pelt and call it a day.

I would say that Eureka overall is bad for soloing, not just Pagos. Mostly because it was designed to be map-wide content so all 144 people in instance run together and farm shinies.

But out of all maps Pagos was the worst one, and in this step a lot of people dropped Eureka completely. Though it was nerfed, so now it's not as evil as before, but still.

I’d buy it.
I’ve done that fate more times than I care to imagine since pagos released and I didn’t even know he dropped anything reward wise. That should tell you all you need to know regarding the drop rate. Also no chance you’d do it solo, the level of the fate is about 2 below pagos cap. You’d need a full party atleast which drops that drop rate even lower chance you get it