Titania (King)?

Why is Titania referred to as a "King"? Did I miss something? I think anyone on the Thrown is considered the King but not a Queen?

The Fae took the title from the former King of Voeburt when they moved in. They saw that the ruler of the mortals was called a King, so they took the name for their ruler as well, regardless of who or what their ruler happens to be at any given time.

Titania is referred to as both king and queen, but mostly by king, I only remember seeing queen in the quest where you're given the dress. Given the exclusive usage of "they" (at least in the English client) by the pixies (& co) it appears they don't really care about using gendered terms. To them the leader of the fae people is the king.

Pixies are pretty much agendered from what I can tell and only use the terms King and Queen as it pleases them due to mortal influence. Plus they're basically the reborn spirits of children. Children don't care about proper word usage so much as what sounds better, and I imagine /King/ does when considered in conjunction with what Espiritduo stated.

All of the Fae are genderless, as far as I could tell. Pixies and Nu Mou both use "singular they" pronouns.

I'm also pretty sure that King in certain cultures is considered gender neutral, though even for those its usually males who get the title anyways. So it isn't all that out of place.

There is also the fact that the title King in some cultures is genderless and refer to the leader of people, regardless of gender. We've had a few women in our history who were called king because of this. The Pixies, who don't seem to have gender as we understand it, would logically follow that type of custom.

The term King is more gender neutral. This is the same thing that happened in Berserk's story their Fae King is actually a "Queen" Flowerstorm "King"

Really ? That's so weird, in the french localisation, Titania is called 'Queen'.

That being said, there aren't any gender neutral terms in french to name someone (beside 'it' ? sounds rude lol). All of the pixies are refered to as females in the translation.

Is it the same thing in the german localisation ? I'm curious now ;)

It's "König" in german which is clearly the male word for a ruler

Male: "König" - "King"
Female: "Königin" - "Queen"

I first thought this to be a fault by the ger. localisation team, which bugged me, cause "Every child knows that Titania is the Queen of Faires and Oberon is the King!"

But hearing it's the same in other languages and then with the explanation it just bugged me even more. The Pixies are genderless and named the title after the King of Voeburt? This is just so unreasonable. Why did the devs come up with this, just to change it from Queen to King? The Pixies also could've named it after the Queen of Voelburt.

I guess Oberon is the queen :D

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Originally Posted by Ssmiley_Bjakkzz

I guess Oberon is the queen :D

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its possible... cause what happens to males that take the throne... since apparently the system doesnt char what race you are when you take the throne you become the lord of the fey so does that mean a male takeing the throne would be oberon or would they also be titania ... big thonk

Both King and Titania are titles within FFXIV, the fae adopt gender neutral pronouns and thus would be considered nonbinary, and with that they can adopt whatever suits them for titles/ranks/words. This is why

When Feo Ul becomes King Titania we can still refer to them as Feo Ul as that is their actual name rather than King Titania which is a formality.

So technically their full name now would be King Titania Feo Ul

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Originally Posted by Iscah

All of the Fae are genderless, as far as I could tell. Pixies and Nu Mou both use "singular they" pronouns.

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Apart from Feo Ul, who uses gendered pronouns when referring to herself. I don't know if that's in any way related to her being derided as the "madblossom," or if it's just her temper.

Titania is also a title, literally meaning "Queen of the Faeries"

As far as we can tell, the Pixies have a very different concept of gender, seemingly having no conception of it at all. They pretty much never use gendered pronouns, although the Crystal Exarch does refer to Feo Ul as female once. So to them using the title King probably makes as much sense as anything else.

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Originally Posted by Kreyd

But hearing it's the same in other languages and then with the explanation it just bugged me even more. The Pixies are genderless and named the title after the King of Voeburt? This is just so unreasonable. Why did the devs come up with this, just to change it from Queen to King? The Pixies also could've named it after the Queen of Voelburt.

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Like Espiritduo said, the leader of Voeburt had been a king before they took the place over, so they just adopted that title. If you didn't know the nuances of a language, or really understand the culture that it belongs to, I don't think it's that unreasonable to assume that King would be a genderless title. We don't know if Voeburt had a queen at the time, we just know there was one in the past (from the sidequest where you're helping the pixie that wants to be popular).

Also, yes, we know Titania is the Queen and Oberon is the King, but there's also the fact that Titania is a title as well, not a name, so I suspect even if the fae folk did have genders in this game, and we got a male ruler, they'd still be called Titania, not Oberon.

Maybe King Titania is just a fancy way to say Giant king? :) Coz you know, pixie becomes big when they become King.

It's explained in game why they added King to the Titania title. While the first Titania was fighting the Light Warden, during the fight those Fae that remembered Voeburt, while witnessing the fight, had seen flashes of the Voeburt's King in the way Titania fought to protect them from the Light Warden. So after they sealed her in the palace they added King to her title in remembrance to Voeburt and to honor her sacrifice.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

All of the Fae are genderless, as far as I could tell. Pixies and Nu Mou both use "singular they" pronouns.

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I did notice one Nu Mou NPC being referred to specifically as "he," but for the most part this seems to hold true. Given the fact that the fae don't reproduce the traditional way and given their lack of secondary sex characteristics, I think it's pretty fair to assume they don't have much of a concept of sex or gender.

I did see it mentioned earlier in the thread that we've historically referred to certain women as kings, which is a good point. The kings of Egypt are a great example.