The entire Aether data center has been locked for weeks now. Nobody can create new characters or transfer to any of the servers. I set up an automated tracker to check the website every 60 seconds and no server opened. They might want to consider adding another server to Aether and Primal.
I came back after an extended break and found out there was a data center split and I got moved from Aether to Crystal. All of my friends are on the Aether data center which means I have no way to play with them. I do have a level 5 alt I made on Jenova that I guess I could level boost and story skip with but that's $50 just to play an alt with friends.
A lot of people want to play on Aether because that is where the majority of hardcore raid guilds are, and for me personally that is where my friends are. If I want to push savage in a few weeks I have a bad feeling I won't be able to on Crystal.
There is no queue at all on my server and there was only a 20 person queue on launch. Currently some of the fates are failing because I'm the only one doing them. And yes this is in the new zones.
Has anyone heard anything about possible new servers to Aether?
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07-04-2019, 08:38 AMMicrobrewedAether Still Locked
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07-04-2019, 08:44 AMEnla
Yeah they're not going to do that until people start filling up Crystal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And you can run things just fine over here, we still have a healthy if somewhat diminished raid community. I am sorry you can't be with your friends though... Give it a week or two and at least one server is bound to go back to standard as the bandwagon players leave. -
07-04-2019, 08:46 AMSunoske
You can indeed raid on Crystal, it was the mass exodus of people claiming you couldn't (Mind you this is a complete lie.) who left the data center, now complaining about the fact they cant make characters. Make up your mind. Its a game, raiding happens all over. :)
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07-04-2019, 08:46 AMLinadae
There is nothing wrong with raiding on Crystal. The only issue is someone started a panic because Balmung and Mateus were put there and apparently they have a deep uncontrolled fear of roleplayers. Knowing what I've seen from other mmo companies, you won't see another server added till all of Crystal is set to Standard. Right now, even with world visit, most of Crystals servers are STILL preferred. So looks like Aether and Primal are just going to have to come to us....or wait till more people decide to try the game out.
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07-04-2019, 08:47 AMDyvid
Aether just had a momentary POP do i'm guessing it's going to be a while.
Oh, 990 in the queue. GTG -
07-04-2019, 08:48 AMEnlaAll the datacenters mass crashed from what I can gather from twitter. Happened on Crystal too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyvid
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07-04-2019, 08:48 AMDoozer
That's what happens when you all mass freakout because you think no one is able to raid on any other data center.
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07-04-2019, 08:48 AMBarraindIf by Aether you mean "everyone".Quote:
Aether just had a momentary POP do i'm guessing it's going to be a while.
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07-04-2019, 08:50 AMBixillarla
Official release of the expansion was yesterday so more people are playing than early access now if they didn't pre order it. I don't expecrt the congestion to die down for a few weeks.
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07-04-2019, 08:50 AMLunalepsy
Oh noes! Is there someone role-playing on FFXIV? I thought this was a MMORPG!
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07-04-2019, 08:51 AMTsumdereThis is a bunch of horse pocky. Crystal is not an RP wasteland devoid of any raiders. It's all baseless fear mongering and the reason Aether is closed is because of mindsets like this. Everyone cried wolf and jumped ship only to net themselves a completely closed datacenter and massive queues. As for Crystal, queues are low. FATES are being cleared just fine. Dungeon queues are just the same as they were in Aether, even faster sometimes. There is plenty of farms for old and new content alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Microbrewed
They will never, ever add new servers until every single world in every data center is full. There are several preferred servers on Crystal so buckle down for a long, long wait. -
07-04-2019, 08:52 AMVrankylI'm sorry but I can't quite feel sympathy. In fact all of those on Balmung can quite literally parrot what all of the raiders were saying during the last expansion. "This is not SE's problem, it is a player made problem." "Raiders did this to themselves by piling all into one area." Sound familiar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Microbrewed
As others have said raiding is very possible still on Crystal even after all the people freaked out and left the data center. -
07-04-2019, 08:55 AMBarraindWith world visit, we could use 2 or 3 more servers per datacenter, similar to JP's setup. (They're at 3-4 more servers per datacenter than we have, with half the total population and 90% of the active population).Quote:
They will never, ever add new servers until every single world in every data center is full.
We wont get it because everyone would race to get on the new Aether servers, but we really should have had them added in this last datacenter split. -
07-04-2019, 08:56 AMLunalepsyFrankly, the so-called RP servers are very pleasant and very social, which is a core aspect of any MMO. I am glad these "raiders" have decided to settle down elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vrankyl
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07-04-2019, 08:58 AMSunoske
To be honest, most "Hardcore raiders" I came across in my time raiding just wanted a reason to throw hissy-fits and act superior. Most raiding I've done on Crystal has been very patient and gotten many more clears than before.
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07-04-2019, 08:59 AMCyreil
You can't raid on Crystal? Well that's no good.
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07-04-2019, 09:00 AMVrankylHonestly my experience has only improved ever since the raiders left. Less wipes, and when they do happen everyone is very polite and understanding about it. Which is pretty much the complete opposite of how things were when we were still a part of Aether with all of the 'raiders'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunalepsy
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07-04-2019, 09:02 AMDyvidOh then I guess it's time to get dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
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07-04-2019, 09:02 AMTsumdereHindsight 20/20. They won't do it now because there is no reason to add more worlds when there is 10 still open for character creation and transfer (with 7 of those being on Crystal).Quote:
Originally Posted by Barraind
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07-04-2019, 09:04 AMFoofy
It is the closed minded raiders who jumped ship because they feared with Mateus and Balmung going to Crystal that raiding would die. People had to listen to people complain about RPers for several years and be told we were the reason why the server queues were terrible when on Aether. Looks like the shoe is on the other foot now. You raiders did this to yourself. Logging in with basic 12-30 people queues at peak times is nice and I have had such great groups clearing dungeons and trials with. People understanding and patient. People wanting to go in blind and learning as they go. Learning EX groups who want to actually learn and not say 'Sorry, it isn't even the first week of Xpac but you need to have cleared already before you can come!'
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07-04-2019, 09:11 AMEnlaHonestly speaking that's been my experience as well. I've had a few bad experiences - had one CT run where we somehow died to Amon of all things but I think that's just because people were new and didn't realize they could break the ice blocks - but overall I'd say most runs I've had are far more patient with newbies and willing to overlook mistakes so long as people are willing to learn. It's been nice actually. Yeah there's a few less parties in party finder than there were before but overall I'm still clearing things just fine - and with less screaming when a mistake is made as well.Quote:
To be honest, most "Hardcore raiders" I came across in my time raiding just wanted a reason to throw hissy-fits and act superior. Most raiding I've done on Crystal has been very patient and gotten many more clears than before.
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07-04-2019, 09:36 AMNims
Why do people in this community take stuff so personal? Coming from Archeage and BDO where people calling each other and themselves "autistic" as a greeting, this place is just....idk.
Obviously OP means he wants a data center with a higher population of raiders. I don't think he has anything against RPers, just that in a lot of cases RPers either don't raid, raid casually, or aren't all that great at it. It's perfectly fine if OP and other people want to play with other like minded players.
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07-04-2019, 09:53 AMEnlaNot really though? Most RPers I know at least go up to midcore content and I know a healthy number that try for Savage as well. If you look at the numbers someone gleaned before the split, while Crystal did have less Ultimate clears it wasn't /that/ bad of a number. Particularly since in the merger we'd be getting the bulk of the preferred servers in NA with the split. Balmung also had a healthy raid community before all the doom saying drove a lot of raid guilds to leave, many of which also had RPers that are now on Gilgamesh and /still/ RPing over there if my friends ont hat server are to be believed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
I personally sympathize with the OP because I know what it's like to be separated from your friends in situations like this. It sucks. No one likes it and no one should have to go through with it. But you're not really close to being right about RPers and I also don't blame a lot of people on Crystal for feeling vindication after the past 5+ years of being talked down to by raiders for these very issues. It's hard /not/ to feel some schadenfreude when issues we've been complaining about for a long time now affect the very people who told us to take a hike and stop whining. -
07-04-2019, 09:55 AMLinadaeThat's just it, this problem started because someone or a lot of someones DID attack roleplayers. Insisting they were incapable of even doing basic dungeons. Thus causing the panic transfer that has lead to Aether and Primal getting locked as a whole and Crystal having nearly every server either standard or preferred while an expansion starts. So yes there's more than a little schadenfreude going on after constantly being told how 'bad' we were and how we weren't going to be able to even FINISH the msq because of how BAD we were. Yet...here I sit at end game unlocking the two endgame dungeons in prep for gearing up for the up and coming raids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
Now people from Aether are making out like this is the worst launch they've seen and SE's a terrible company because of the choices they as players made. They didn't HAVE to dogpile onto a single datacenter. They CHOOSE to and now they don't want to have to deal with the consequences of their choice even though SE's offered a solution. Which is: "Please move to a server marked as preferred." -
07-04-2019, 10:03 AMNimsDid OP attack Rpers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Linadae
Maybe OP wants to try for higher than midcore? Or maybe he wants to be around more hardcore people doing other stuff? This is all just me guessing as I don't know the OP at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
People in this community has attacked raiders since the begining, all you have to do is mention "hardcore raiders" and watch as people spurg out, which is seen in this thread alone.Quote:
But you're not really close to being right about RPers and I also don't blame a lot of people on Crystal for feeling vindication after the past 5+ years of being talked down to by raiders
I also don't understand how I'm not close to being right about RPers but you can call all raiders closed minded based off your personal experience alone... -
07-04-2019, 10:08 AMEnlaI'm not saying all raiders are like that at all? At all? Could you point to where I'm saying that? My only post about the matter is that I've noticed a marked decrease in the mount of vitriol while I run content since the split and that I get why people are feeling vindictive over how some raiders attack them in the past. A good chunk of my best friends are on Aether right now, raiding. I very nearly left Balmung to be with them when the split happened and the first server I was ever on /was/ Gilgamesh were I currently still have an alt. If I thought all raiders were closed minded I'd lose half the people I hang out with on a daily basis in discord by that bias alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
I'm also not sure how you took 'most do midcore but a healthy amount do savage' to mean that there's no opportunity to do Savage? -
07-04-2019, 10:22 AMsavageinkYou are missing the point. The RPers are getting even for all the crap they got for wanting the same exact thing. lol! But Gilgamesh and Balmung are and were congested and not open to character creation. But the latest migration made it worse for Gilgamesh because all the people who thought they were raiders from EVERY server that got moved to Crystal moved to either aether or primal. Mostly Aether I gather from the fact that Aether is plugged up the most. With world visit and a bunch of lighter pop servers on Crystal, they have few problems beyond character creation, which isn't a real problem anymore because of the same world visit system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
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07-04-2019, 10:25 AMNimsSure, as soon as you point to where I said "all Rpers" My post said "In a lot of cases", scroll back up and go read. Also this isn't even about an "all" nor did I even imply you stated "all" My IQ is higher than 2 and can tell most people are speaking in general. My point was that you can still simply call raiders (any amount of raiders) closed minded but I can't speak about RPers (any amount of RPers) without being told I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
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Exactly when did I say "there's no opportunity" or even imply that?Quote:
I'm also not sure how you took 'most do midcore but a healthy amount do savage' to mean that there's no opportunity to do Savage?
More =/= noneQuote:
Or maybe he wants to be around more hardcore people doing other stuff?
I honestly didn't see the OP here blame RPers or give Rpers any crap in this thread atleast, haven't looked at their other posts. So no, I'm sorry I'm not getting your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by savageink
OP stated he wants to be around more hardcore raiding guilds (even people in this thread mentioned that MOST RPERS GO FOR MIDCORE) and people just started freaking out. -
07-04-2019, 10:29 AMEnlaNever implied your IQ was 2? Maybe take a deep breath there? You're kinda taking things a bit too literally and seriously and escalating all over the place. I also think you misread me quite heavily, again. That said I will acknowledge my poor choice of wording in regards to generalizing your point about 'all RPers' and apologize. I shouldn't have implied you meant all RPers and am sorry that it came off as an attack on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
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07-04-2019, 10:31 AMNimsQuote:
Originally Posted by Enla
Holy cow! Lmao I never said you did.
How am I taking things a bit too literally when you literally asked me where you said "all" and implied other things I didn't say. I'm just replying to your posts while waiting in que and literally quoting the things you say.
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07-04-2019, 10:35 AMEnla¯\_(ツ)_/¯ K. Have a good evening then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
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07-04-2019, 10:49 AMsavageinkObviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
The point is that you seem actually surprised that the RPers would take this opportunity to return the favor and give the raiders crap. -
07-04-2019, 11:44 AMNimsReturning the favor would be to people that complained/blaimed Rpers, not some random person that just wants to get on to Aether....Quote:
Originally Posted by savageink
But go off I guess. -
07-04-2019, 02:11 PMsavageinkYou can say that, but that wasn't how it worked before either. You can search for "open balmung" threads if you want. There are a million of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nims
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07-04-2019, 02:54 PMZeonx
Well I know someone who wanted to be on aether who is related on cactuar but its full.
he's been waiting for a long time just so he can play with family members.
If they would get rid of the RMT and all the fake account names they made maybe there would be room for some people who actually play the game instead of spam prices of gil every 5 seconds.
Which I wonder how they are making new characters and spamming is beyond me. -
07-04-2019, 02:59 PMConando
Not gonna happen. They want to stabilize the population. Now that Primal is almost all filled up now too, they want new players to go to Crystal. There's nothing wrong with the players on Crystal, you find the same mix of great, good, bad, and awful as anywhere else.
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07-04-2019, 04:53 PMNanami_Naniwa
I don't get why everyone wants to be on Aether. You can find a good raiding community on the other datacenter as well. People are just prejudiced that aether is the ONLY raiding community. I'd prefer a less populated Server over a Server where I have to wait hours to Login.
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07-04-2019, 04:56 PMSturmChurro
I moved my alt to aether, and to Gilgamesh of all places. I play it like 10 hours a month, but I have my spot.
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07-04-2019, 05:01 PMEnjuden
In terms of general raid population, Aether=Crystal.
I hate to sound snooty, but if you truly cared about Savage Prog and getting it done asap, you need to be on a JP datacenter. Still, good luck meeting up with your friends (or trying at 1-6am PST, don't tell anyone)