Unable to use the 74 Skill "Reuse"

Good morning crafters :3

I leveled my crafters to 74+ and i wanted to use the skill "Reuse"

I got it to 100% Quality, used the Skill and i got some materials back - i thought, this is awesome and i wanted to use it at the next craft again.... But i couldnt use it again, its greyed out. Why that? Is there a waiting time for this skill or what? Nothing in the description of the skill says, that i cant use it in every craft

Thank you all for your Help!

It has an unknown random chance of proc on the step that fills your quality bar to 100%. If it doesn't proc then it won't proc later. Also, if it does proc, it'll stay lit until you either use it or finish the synthesis.

Do you mean with proc like the condition good or excellent?

Then is the description wrong, i thought, i can use it every time and with a chance, i get something back - this is really stupid tbh

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Originally Posted by redrascal

i thought, i can use it every time and with a chance, i get something back - this is really stupid tbh

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It's the other way around but still the same effect. There's a chance you're able to use it, but each time you are able to it will always give you something back.

From my experience it seems to always be only 1 item returned and it seems that it's always the first item in the list of materials for the recipe.

Did some macro crafting and added it in, small scale results:

• 25 synths all 100%, 9 procs (I assume this means 30% or 33%)
• It gave only the first item listed back every time (there was only 1 of the top item for my recipe, so can't say about chance of partial/full refund of top item)

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Originally Posted by redrascal

Then is the description wrong, i thought, i can use it every time and with a chance, i get something back - this is really stupid tbh

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The description clearly states "Chance to become available upon reaching maximum item quality."
https://i.imgur.com/vWqw94L.png

I like the skill but I think it costs far too much CP for what it does. Getting only 1 material, and only the first material in the list makes the return from this skill a bit underwhelming for the CP cost.

Kind of a bad skill. I think it would’ve been better to make this a Specialist skill and give it a 100% proc chance. This would provide a nice incentive for Specialist.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I like the skill but I think it costs far too much CP for what it does. Getting only 1 material, and only the first material in the list makes the return from this skill a bit underwhelming for the CP cost.

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I think it's better with higher level recipes.

Getting a petalite gem or a whole dwarven mythril nugget back is not bad. :3 And let's be honest, when you've maxed out your crafting gear you usually have 60cp+ to spare even when you HQ something.

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Originally Posted by blueruckus

Kind of a bad skill. I think it would’ve been better to make this a Specialist skill and give it a 100% proc chance. This would provide a nice incentive for Specialist.

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I literally have made like close to 1 million Gil back pricing this skill and getting gems and nuggets back. 100% proc seems like real greed.

I agree with IntrovertAnt, Reuse is a nicety in our toolkit.

With 40/80 dura items being HQ-able for around 440-465~ CP... This should 'save' or 'earn' you extra coin, especially when a rotation becomes even cheaper CP-wise due to the HQ materials buff.

It's one of those skills that when you first see it you go, oh that looks interesting and useful, but when you actually play around with it you find out its kinda lackluster and not even worth the 60CP it costs ;) But if you have 60 CP to spare, you might as well.

It depends on what you're crafting. Of course it's underwhelming if you're crafting things with materials you can pick up by the dozens with a few minutes of farming.
I got back a Nidhogg Scale once which was more than worth the 60cp i paid for it.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I like the skill but I think it costs far too much CP for what it does. Getting only 1 material, and only the first material in the list makes the return from this skill a bit underwhelming for the CP cost.

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Until the item it returns is a Dancing Wing or an Immaculate Wingblade....

100% proc would break part of the game. Seems like I only get back the first ingredients. Imagine the items you could make with that. Any of the Ex Primal drop weapons? Some housing items?

In my experience so far, the rate is closer to 16% (1 in 6). I've tracked it for a while. I seem to get back about 16 in 100. But I think it needs more testing to be sure.

I had couple runs while i tested out this skill.
It is not the 60CP worth. Looks like it save always only 1 material. Undepend on how many mats the craft have. It tend to save mats which are more than 1 in the recept.
Like 3 Lumber; 1 Leather; 2 Stones; 1 Glue. It will save 1 Lumber.

My last run i used it always when it pop up, i had 50 crafts asking for 100 Lumber. It saved 11 Lumber. Ja'lol'ey.
And it pop up compleat random. Undepend on the craft staus like "Good" or "exelent".

If you have the 60CP left, so why dont use it? Cause it is 1 more skill actrion, 1 more click. If you facing 100 crafts... #notforlol10outof100 ;P

I can imagen it comes in use when we have some more dificil crafts with more expensive mats. The chance is high that you dont have the 60 CP left over in this crafts... but if you have you may want to click it for save you a 150k mat :D

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Originally Posted by blueruckus

Kind of a bad skill. I think it would’ve been better to make this a Specialist skill and give it a 100% proc chance. This would provide a nice incentive for Specialist.

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Well, I made several millions with this spell... But I like that still a lot of people can't see the use and the benefit of it. I mean, there is literally a thread about this three topics up describing why this is a money maker.