Please, let us cast glamor plate anywhere.....!!!

... as long as we aren't in battle

it's funny that we can cast individual piece with glamor prism everywhere but glamor plate only limit in town

Yes. Please.

Signed. Yes please.

God, I wish for that everytime I start a new Expansion and I have to adjust my gear after every dungeon xD Then again - it is a QoL Change and they might look into this at some Point. It is Major gamebreaker and right now they probably have their Hands full of other things :)

Signed. Yes please

I would like to know what exactly prevents us from using glamour plates everywhere. Did Square ever say anything about it? Like you said, we can Glamour individual pieces no matter where we are. But Glamour Plates only work in cities. Why?

No please.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

No please.

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Why?

It's your opinion and whatever, I'm just honestly curious why you're against it.

Oh god Yes please.

I believe they did say at one point there was reason they couldn't do this, but tbh, I didnt really pay attention as to why at the time. :rolleyes:

I would love this change however, and hope they can one day work on making it possible!!

Yes please SE! :D

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Originally Posted by Barachim

I would like to know what exactly prevents us from using glamour plates everywhere. Did Square ever say anything about it? Like you said, we can Glamour individual pieces no matter where we are. But Glamour Plates only work in cities. Why?

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Limited inventory space.
The Glamour Dresser is an additional inventory system that can only be accessed in cities, because accessing it in the field (along with retainer inventories) would put too much strain on the servers.

Whether this is still the case? Who knows, they might be able to fix this soon.

Oh well, then I understand why its limited to cities only. But yeah, hopefully they'll eventually find a solution.

Can we at least be able to change them in Mor Dhona? I have no idea why we can change it in all other hubs but not there.

Yes please.

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Originally Posted by Anyan

Can we at least be able to change them in Mor Dhona? I have no idea why we can change it in all other hubs but not there.

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Because it's not a hub, it's a field with a town in the middle.

They actually touched on this awhile back.

It was this- increasing the area's you can use your glamour plates or More Glamour plates.

They decided people would want more plates rather than how many places you can use the plates.

Man I wish. My character looks ridiculous right now because I’ve gotten various new gear pieces and haven’t felt like stopping to port back to a city to re glamour.

Will be nice if at least we could do it in any sanctuary.

Imo they need completely rework the glamour system
Something like wow. You get an item, its "copy" is automatically stored in glam dresser, and you can not interect with that copy by any means outside of drag'n'drop on plates
Moreover they can do that system client side with a backup on the server
Boom, easy solution

Would be nice. Going to the Crystarium every time I equip new gear is a bit annoying, but nothing of a high priority tbh - once we reach level cap we won't change gear as often.

Forget changing plates and assigning items, having to access the dresser.
Lets start with being able to APPLY PLATES everywhere.

So retarded that when I change my class in the wild, my gear won't glam and I get error messages instead of my preferred outfit.

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Originally Posted by Endariel

Imo they need completely rework the glamour system
Something like wow. You get an item, its "copy" is automatically stored in glam dresser, and you can not interect with that copy by any means outside of drag'n'drop on plates
Moreover they can do that system client side with a backup on the server
Boom, easy solution

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The Wardrobe system in Guild Wars 2 would be also good to use, equip once, skin unlocked, easy as it is, glam it whenever you need to. (i really wish also we had a bank like in GW2, simple spaces for each material)

1. You're locked to specific area which allows you to use glamor plates
2. There are only 15 glamor plates when in reality it should at last offer enough plates for every DoH/DoL/DoW/DoM
3. Permanent cost of glamor prism if you switch often between classes which have linked glamor plates

All in all a really lackluster implementation of a costume system.

They need to change the glamour system.
Why did they go with something THAT complicated when they could just have used system "à la" Rift, EQ2, Age of Conan : 2 character sheet, 1 for actual stuff, one for visible stuff. Make it so when you equip a piece you unlock it in your glamour journal and just have to click it to make it visible.
Geeeez, even F2P like Blad and Soul offers a system more intuitive and faster than FF14

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The Glamour Dresser is an additional inventory system that can only be accessed in cities, because accessing it in the field (along with retainer inventories) would put too much strain on the servers.

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That only explains the limitation on where you can access the dresser itself, with its hundreds of items. I can understand access to that being limited (though I do wish they'd add a housing item for it — we've already got a separate house interior instance there).

What's being requested for in the field is just the ability to access a plate that has at most a dozen items. They should be able to add open access to that much without breaking their servers. We wouldn't even need access to all the plates and the interface to look at them if they would at least let the particular plate linked to our gear set be applied when we apply the gear set itself. (That way, adding more plates doesn't increase the size it's dealing with if it's only picking up one of them at a time anyway.)

Someone mentioned in another discussion on this a while back (though I'm not sure of the source) that aside of inventory concerns, there was an issue with the small-but-not-impossible scenario that an enemy could attack and kill you while the glamour plate "macro" is being run, which would cause some kind of error. Can't remember if there was more explanation than that.

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Originally Posted by Celef

They need to change the glamour system.
Why did they go with something THAT complicated when they could just have used [simple system]

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Perhaps because it isn't that simple to do it in this game's coding? It's clear that they don't want to meddle with the pre-existing code, which has some poor decisions made early and built deeply into the game. The dresser/plate system has been built to sit on top of the original system and do stuff it wasn't designed to do, without actually changing it.

Yes, please!

Yes pls.
I hate it when I get better gear but can't glamour it because Im not in town. Then the queue pops and I look like an idiot, lol.

Chiming in mostly on behalf of a friend of mine, but he's never touched the Glamour Plate system because of this limitation. I use it myself, but I still find the limitation annoying, and occasionally my Botanist looks like a Fisher (or vice versa). I was hoping this would have been fixed for the release of Shadowbringers, but perhaps in a future update...

Would be nice if we could, but I won't be holding my breath for it.

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Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev

and occasionally my Botanist looks like a Fisher (or vice versa).

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I think you mean like a DoL class. Botanist can't wear Fisher exclusive gear

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

... as long as we aren't in battle

it's funny that we can cast individual piece with glamor prism everywhere but glamor plate only limit in town

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Yes, please!

How is there an inventory limit when you can see the actual glamour plates and items from anywhere, but just not apply?

Anyway, not a huge deal. I usually revisit the Crystarium anyway to equip new stuff and slot materia, convert old stuff, etc. It's a good break time from the plot.

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Originally Posted by Barachim

I would like to know what exactly prevents us from using glamour plates everywhere. Did Square ever say anything about it? Like you said, we can Glamour individual pieces no matter where we are. But Glamour Plates only work in cities. Why?

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Glamour plates require that your stored glamour configuration sit somewhere on a database. They'd have to read that data which isn't a step that would be required to glamour a single piece, which would basically just be an ID updated in the database.

This is just an educated guess, but it's restricted to cities for this reason, similar to accessing of retainers in cities...which in turn run less game logic (no enemies to fight, no combat allowed, no fate logic, etc.). The game just isn't setup to be able to run the logic needed to apply the glamour plates and be able to support all the other field activities that aren't present in cities.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Would be nice. Going to the Crystarium every time I equip new gear is a bit annoying, but nothing of a high priority tbh - once we reach level cap we won't change gear as often.

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But that's kind of when it's needed most, when all your roles are sharing a single set of gear and you want them to be glamour differently...

I still haven't used the system much, but I'm considering it for my Crafters, even though it won't work at the namazu area for my crafting dailies...

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

But that's kind of when it's needed most, when all your roles are sharing a single set of gear and you want them to be glamour differently...

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That's only one of the potential uses for the glamour plates though - one that it doesn't do so well with its current design (although it does work in cities).

The real use of the glamour dresser right now is being able to build and store plates of the costumes you frequently apply to your gear, instead of using prisms every time. You can reapply them as frequently as you want, without spending prisms and without having to carry the glamour items with you. Being able to do that in some places is still better than only having the prisms, though you can keep using them as well.

The "can't use it in the field" is also less of a hindrance at endgame where you're most likely buying your gear upgrades from a town vendor rather than getting them from quests and dungeons.

I keep multiple plates for my main classes, so I can switch costume designs when I feel like it (eg. my main currently has four plates for SMN and my healer alt has five for WHM), and plates for classes that I'm leveling currently. It's so much easier and quicker than applying those glamours with prisms - and it also makes glamouring jewellery a lot more worthwhile, whether you just want it invisible or you pick out pieces that suit the outfit.

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That only explains the limitation on where you can access the dresser itself, with its hundreds of items. I can understand access to that being limited (though I do wish they'd add a housing item for it — we've already got a separate house interior instance there).

What's being requested for in the field is just the ability to access a plate that has at most a dozen items. They should be able to add open access to that much without breaking their servers. We wouldn't even need access to all the plates and the interface to look at them if they would at least let the particular plate linked to our gear set be applied when we apply the gear set itself. (That way, adding more plates doesn't increase the size it's dealing with if it's only picking up one of them at a time anyway.)

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A plate might only have a dozen items on it, but those items are stored in the dresser.
In order to just access the plate and not the dresser, applying items to a glamour plate would have to duplicate those items into a third inventory system for plates that's separate from the dresser. That's just adding more layers of complexity to an already overly complicated system.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

A plate might only have a dozen items on it, but those items are stored in the dresser.
In order to just access the plate and not the dresser, applying items to a glamour plate would have to duplicate those items into a third inventory system for plates that's separate from the dresser. That's just adding more layers of complexity to an already overly complicated system.

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I actually think the plates are already a third inventory separate to the dresser, and items on them are technically duplicated rather than "the dresser item shown on the plate".

Once you put an item on a plate, dyeing the version in the dresser or even removing the item from the dresser has no effect on the plate item.

Still, they have a long pattern of creating small "side inventories" because the main inventory can't be expanded (due to short-sighted programming). Retainers, housing storage and armoire items can't be accessed in the field either.

I'm not sure if I'm for glamoring *everywhere* (during dungeons? raids? trials?), but at any sanctuary (so at least everywhere there's an aethyrite crystal) would be fine, IMO.

Heck go all the way, who not in battle too!?