SE, I thought you Learned from 1.0...

The zone...
The Rak'tika Greatwoods
It has far too many cuts and pastes for my liking.


The Stairs on the pyramids.
The trees you can go under.

Rather than copy-pasting terrain they copy-paste props. This is how it's always been since 2.0.

As long as it's not so bad as The Fringes with it's copy&pasted "Star Destroyers" I can live with that.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

The zone...
The Rak'tika Greatwoods
It has far too many cuts and pastes for my liking.


The Stairs on the pyramids.
The trees you can go under.

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This is really worth complaining about! Are you pleased you found 1 thing you don't like about the expansion! Stop nitpicking and play the game. I didn't notice this AT ALL.

Absolutely unplayable

My favorite area. I think they did a wonderful job there and just about everywhere else. Almost done with story and should finish msq today.

I didn't notice honestly. I think the Areas are lovely done and I'm totally in love with them. I feel like they look new and innovative as well as appaeling regarding their scenery.

Completely awful... and the music of that area.. what rubbish!!!... (Irony/sarcasm, the music there is gorgeous, the greatwoods great area)

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This is really worth complaining about! Are you pleased you found 1 thing you don't like about the expansion! Stop nitpicking and play the game. I didn't notice this AT ALL.

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I didn't notice it either. I even went to fly around the zone again and still didn't notice it.

Might as well uninstall, I guess.

Who cares if it is (I didn't notice)? The soundtrack for that zone is freaking sweet.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

The zone...
The Rak'tika Greatwoods
It has far too many cuts and pastes for my liking.


The Stairs on the pyramids.
The trees you can go under.

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I didn't notice it as much as I noticed the cutting and pasting in Eulmore slums. That section was bad.

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Originally Posted by Nanami_Naniwa

I didn't notice honestly. I think the Areas are lovely done and I'm totally in love with them. I feel like they look new and innovative as well as appaeling regarding their scenery.

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Same, and i found all areas beautiful thus far.
I am far more concerned that we still have queues to get in of like 1100 players and a half hr or so wait, lol

I honestly think it’s a worthwhile sacrifice if it lets them create a large and well detailed / interesting area. The only thing I didn’t like about the zone was that when you’re flying there’s sometimes a lot of obstacles in the way lol (e.g giant branches), but it’s really not that big a deal

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Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

I didn't notice it as much as I noticed the cutting and pasting in Eulmore slums. That section was bad.

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Well... maybe it's because the slums might be getting a face lift through the patches? So they didn't try too hard to make them unique. Like Revenant's Toll and Idyllshire.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This is really worth complaining about! Are you pleased you found 1 thing you don't like about the expansion! Stop nitpicking and play the game. I didn't notice this AT ALL.

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Are you pleased to write a comment void of an actual argument with the clear implication that you think the world revolves around you, and only you?

I honestly haven't noticed any copy/paste shenanigans. So if they did... they did a good job of hiding it.

Copy-pasting is inevitable, I think. At least to some extent—provided that the developers want to spend time on everything else they put into this expansion to make it just as amazing as the new ares, its bound to happen. Certainly not something to get overly upset about—and I seriously doubt its on par with 1.0 copy pasting.

I never noticed much copy-pasting in the areas myself. I’m honestly too busy being awed by how beautiful they are—especially under the Everlasting Light weather.

I did notice the temple stairs in the greatwood were copypasted when I had to climb 4 sets of them for the MSQ but that didn't bother me at all. Areas overall just look too good for me to care.

Reusing assets is normal

What wasn't normal in 1.0 is that they'd go overboard. People would get so disoriented trying to find their way through each zone because none had any discernable landmarkes and you quite literally passed the same ridge/tree/boulder/etc... every 30 seconds.

The black shroud was the worst offender because it was an actual labyrinth of seeing the same trees over and over again.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/af4b2baa...ss6o1_1280.jpg

So they used the same asset here and there and it's rubbish? You do realize that is how every game is made right? There's not a single game that creates levels using unique assets for everything. If that were the case, the game would be 1tb+ in size, it would be ridiculous and impractical not to mention expensive to create and the framerate would drop to a crawl.

Disappointed.

I'm going to ask a refund for this….



...and at my furniture seller, he sold me 4 chairs all equal to each other!

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Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus

Disappointed.
...and at my furniture seller, he sold me 4 chairs all equal to each other!

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How do they live with themselves knowingly selling you this symmetry?

Yeah... If you think this in any way compares to 1.0, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. You must have forgotten why the copy/paste in 1.0 was bad. It wasn't because it existed. It was because entire zones looked exactly the same. Heck, without a map, you literally couldn't tell where you were in the black shroud. It all looked the same.


I noticed the stairs, but only because I ended up being curious if they were different. It's still my favorite area, and the place is beautiful. This is a pretty silly complaint all things considered.

Copy pasting has been in every MMO, this isn't new. It's not even really that bad, it's not like human buildings in WoW which have the same layout, the same furniture, and 9/10 times the NPCs are plopped in the same spot. However, I think Square got pretty good covering it up, I didn't really notice and from a lot of the replies no one else really did either or cared enough to try spotting a flaw.

i mean i guess they could delay content for 6 months longer if you want handcrafted grass blades and tree foliage to make them all different.

Copy pasting assets is in every single game to be honest not just mmo.

I see no problem at all to be honest. The great wood is one of my favorite zones in the whole game, I think it looks fine.

Look in every zone... there is tons of reused assets. Then look at every single game in history... there are also tons of reused assets in them too.

Okay, I am not talking about that copypasting, that's fine. But does anyone remember this here? Especially point 3?

https://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/im...753/3steps.jpg

And now they released two half baked races and also more or less half baked jobs.

And I am not even talking about the missing genders. Hrothgar hair options and the lack of headgear was released with the mindset to patch the stuff into the game later. They don't even have released the naming conventions here in the forums yet, because well, you can release them later, right?

Then we have the two new jobs wich don't have the old primal weapons, raid weapons and not even ultimate weapons as glamour options. All jobs got them so far and yes we expected to get them. If SE plans to patch them into the game later is unknown, but the community was already talking about it.

Sorry, I dont agree. I absolutely love The Rak'tika Greatwoods

Rak'tika Greatwoods is my favorite zone. It's absolutely enchanting.

1.0 copy/paste was not bad because of single objects. but because whole areas got copy/pasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEs

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Originally Posted by Tint

They don't even have released the naming conventions here in the forums yet, because well, you can release them later, right?

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But that one don't need a future update

I saw something really horrible, today. It made my eyes bleed!

You see, in Amh Araeng, I saw a red pixel. Then, I teleported to my FC's house, and the tree in the yard also has a red pixel!!

Square Enix! How lazy can you get?!?

The real crime in Rak'tika Greatwood's zone design is the fact that you have all these trees that you can't actually land on. Why SE, why?

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

The zone...
The Rak'tika Greatwoods
It has far too many cuts and pastes for my liking.


The Stairs on the pyramids.
The trees you can go under.

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I'm loving its. Areas have been very nostalgic for me =)

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

Are you pleased to write a comment void of an actual argument with the clear implication that you think the world revolves around you, and only you?

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Is that really the only retort you can come up with? Mocking people word-for-word?

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This is really worth complaining about! Are you pleased you found 1 thing you don't like about the expansion! Stop nitpicking and play the game. I didn't notice this AT ALL.

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Really? So you are not allowed to complain about obvious flaws?

The FF XIV Community is in general very nice - But DON'T YOU DARE to speak negatively. You will have fanboys and fangirls jump at you - And when you ARGUE why something is a problem, you get the generic fanboy response Nr. 1: "If you don't like it, stop playing"

This is not how the world works. It is COMPLETELY FINE to mention and point out Issues - It does NOT mean that I jump from a bridge because I can't handle it in my life - It's still completely valid to talk about it. SE NEEDS to know at what edges they have work to do and the community should support every suggestion or complain that could make the game better for everyone.

I liked the 1.0 zones. No regrets. No being sarcastic.
Coerthas and Mor Dhona in paticular had some amazing vistas if you took the time to find them.
Even the other three had some as well.

my only problem with raktika was how hard it is to fly from the west half to the east you cant just fly over the cliffs so you have to pass through 2 gateways

"geez SE,cant you create a map where EVERY tree are different ? oh and leaves must be different apart from tree,cause when i play,i look at all tree,litteraly unplayable tssss"

I can't say I've noticed any copy pasting. And I'm usually pretty observant O.o I looove all the new zones/areas and their music <3 But I'm not surprised that they copy-pasted things. I'd like to think every MMO does this. Doesn't bother me as long as the overall endresult is stunning ;)