Gun Blade Squall

the Revolver is too small, please SE make it bigger, what we have now looks like a kids toy

It's really not that bad, in my opinion.

Yeah I agree! For a tanking weapon its too small.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

Yeah I agree! For a tanking weapon its too small.

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Well, I mean, Squall's not exactly what you'd consider a tank, anyway, so to me, this seems rather faithful

too tell the truth i wish the blade part was longer, and if we can have Seifer Weapon also. it would be nice to have some final fantasy 8 theme gun blades.

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Well, I mean, Squall's not exactly what you'd consider a tank, anyway, so to me, this seems rather faithful

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If Gunblade was a dps and held the blade differently absolutely. Just feels to small to be held on the shoulder.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

If Gunblade was a dps and held the blade differently absolutely. Just feels to small to be held on the shoulder.

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Squall was the same, though. He had no need to hold his gunblade over his shoulder, but he still did. It's clearly just for style, not for any actual practical benefits. I will agree with you that it's weird that the Gunblade isn't a dps class, though. I always found that a weird choice from the moment it was announced, but such is the way of it.

Since the whole class is a tribute to Squall, and he's not really a tank, I wouldn't really expect anything realistic from the class. Rather, I'd equate it to the standard anime badass trope, the guy who doesn't use or wear anything practical and simply just fights with cool moves and stances. A duelist that focuses on style over everything else.

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Squall was the same, though. He had no need to hold his gunblade over his shoulder, but he still did. It's clearly just for style, not for any actual practical benefits. I will agree with you that it's weird that the Gunblade isn't a dps class, though. I always found that a weird choice from the moment it was announced, but such is the way of it.

Since the whole class is a tribute to Squall, and he's not really a tank, I wouldn't really expect anything realistic from the class. Rather, I'd equate it to the standard anime badass trope, the guy who doesn't use or wear anything practical and simply just fights with cool moves and stances. A duelist that focuses on style over everything else.

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They ripped off Dante a lot.

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Squall was the same, though. He had no need to hold his gunblade over his shoulder, but he still did. It's clearly just for style, not for any actual practical benefits. I will agree with you that it's weird that the Gunblade isn't a dps class, though. I always found that a weird choice from the moment it was announced, but such is the way of it.

Since the whole class is a tribute to Squall, and he's not really a tank, I wouldn't really expect anything realistic from the class. Rather, I'd equate it to the standard anime badass trope, the guy who doesn't use or wear anything practical and simply just fights with cool moves and stances. A duelist that focuses on style over everything else.

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Probably gonna agree with the "badass" anime trope. Because isnt there a whole cult following about some dude with a tiny shield? Tiny shield man? Man with the tiny shield? Something like that.

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Squall was the same, though. He had no need to hold his gunblade over his shoulder, but he still did. It's clearly just for style, not for any actual practical benefits. I will agree with you that it's weird that the Gunblade isn't a dps class, though. I always found that a weird choice from the moment it was announced, but such is the way of it.

Since the whole class is a tribute to Squall, and he's not really a tank, I wouldn't really expect anything realistic from the class. Rather, I'd equate it to the standard anime badass trope, the guy who doesn't use or wear anything practical and simply just fights with cool moves and stances. A duelist that focuses on style over everything else.

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makes plenty sense as a tank considering what SeeD(squall job) is and does

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Well, I mean, Squall's not exactly what you'd consider a tank, anyway, so to me, this seems rather faithful

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He has the highest base HP and base VIT out of all of the characters in the game. He is naturally more tanky. I don't know where you get him not being a tank from, but that is false. lol

That doesn't even take account him having a title of Sorceress' Knight.

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

He has the highest base HP and base VIT out of all of the characters in the game. He is naturally more tanky. I don't know where you get him not being a tank from, but that is false. lol

That doesn't even take account him having a title of Sorceress' Knight.

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My thought exacly ; since he's a Sorceress' Knight, you can consider that he 'protects' his Sorceress and, therefore, makes a good tank lorewise.

That being said, I have the Gunblade, and it dosen't seem too small for me.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

They ripped off Dante a lot.

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Way closer to Nero than Dante. Considering that boiled down, Red Queen is essentially a Gunblade. Just trade the gunpowder/aether cartridges for an ICE.

Aside from that it looks like Gunbreaker uses a single-handed version of the "wrath guard" (or Zornhut) as its neutral stance:

http://www.chivalrynow.net/sword/guards.htm (search "Wrath")

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Way closer to Nero than Dante. Considering that boiled down, Red Queen is essentially a Gunblade. Just trade the gunpowder/aether cartridges for an ICE.

Aside from that it looks like Gunbreaker uses a single-handed version of the "wrath guard" (or Zornhut) as its neutral stance:

http://www.chivalrynow.net/sword/guards.htm (search "Wrath")

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That website will help more than you know for RP reasons

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

Well, I mean, Squall's not exactly what you'd consider a tank, anyway, so to me, this seems rather faithful

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my squall was.. i junctioned him so he literally healed from every element of attack. he was basically invincible except for level 5 death.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

They ripped off Dante a lot.

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FFVIII was released in Feb of 1999, DMC was released in Aug 2001.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

FFVIII was released in Feb of 1999, DMC was released in Aug 2001.

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They ripped off DMC with Gunbreaker. Didn't mean FFVIII

Will add my voice to this. In a Hrothgar hand in particular, the weapon looks laughably tiny. It's a two-handed weapon for Squall, but fits in just one of my mitts.

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Originally Posted by kobe-sabi

the Revolver is too small, please SE make it bigger, what we have now looks like a kids toy

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You Gun Blades. Always judging a tank by the size of their weapons. :p

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Originally Posted by DarkMasamune

My thought exacly ; since he's a Sorceress' Knight, you can consider that he 'protects' his Sorceress and, therefore, makes a good tank lorewise.

That being said, I have the Gunblade, and it dosen't seem too small for me.

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Not to mention the other two gunbladers, Seifer, and for a short while Laguna, were also protecting sorceresses (although Laguna was just protecting an actor who was playing a sorceress) :)

The only gunblade I've used so far that looks too small is the Scaevan one because it folds up and really shouldn't.

the lvl 73 dungeon gun blade is really nice if people are after a nice looking gun blade that's a decent size
Dyable too

Fae manatrigger

figure i point that out im still grinding for it ;-;

I do think the Revolver could use a minor size increase.

https://i.imgur.com/xHbMcuK.jpg

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Originally Posted by Duskane

the lvl 73 dungeon gun blade is really nice if people are after a nice looking gun blade that's a decent size
Dyable too

Fae manatrigger

figure i point that out im still grinding for it ;-;

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I got it. I just think it looks too fancy for RP reasons

What is up with the gunblade for GNB being too small? I've said this before, but some lookedlike a decent size while most I've seen so far looked like a rifle from afar. That's my main issue with gnb weapons: is that they look like rifles and not a blades.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

They ripped off Dante a lot.

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More like a combination from ToV, VIII, and XIII.

its probably because the lack of them it is i think theres not even 20 of them im pretty sure
like if we have Titan,Sephirot,Theordon,Alex and such probably be much bigger version

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

They ripped off DMC with Gunbreaker. Didn't mean FFVIII

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no they didnt.

Gunblade attacks remind me infinitely more of Lightning and Squall than anything resembling Dantes badd@$$ery Stop insulting the half demon.

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

no they didnt.

Gunblade attacks remind me infinitely more of Lightning and Squall than anything resembling Dantes badd@$$ery Stop insulting the half demon.

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Yeah i don't remember dante ever having a sword that shoots bullets
they were always seperate for him, he has guns and a sword

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

Yeah i don't remember dante ever having a sword that shoots bullets
they were always seperate for him, he has guns and a sword

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More nero then!

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

More nero then!

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Are you saying gunblades need more dead weight?

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Originally Posted by Camiie

Are you saying gunblades need more dead weight?

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Ironically, yes. XD At least Squall's. Haven't really seen the others yet.

I went back into the game, put on my Squall glamour and inspected the blade closer. It really seems to be smaller than I remember. Especially after I put some hours into Dissidia NT recently. The blade doesn't feel... weighty enough. I'm not sure what would be optimal. Maybe a 10% size increase, so it feels just right?

https://i.imgur.com/e4a7fBZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X59KydJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J7uziDl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MBZheFH.png

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

Yeah I agree! For a tanking weapon its too small.

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Eh? Not every tank weapon needs to be massive like an axe or greatsword. Paladin sword for example aren't that big.

I took the images from the friend above me, rotated and adjusted the size of the image so the barrel and the trigger section would be in close size to each other and here is the result.
It indeedhas blade shorter by about 18-20%, and handle a little bigger which doesnt really matter since its the blade that is most important
https://i.imgur.com/MVdhlrL.gif

Yeah, the Squall's gunblade in XIV does look smaller; especially with the evidence from the images above. Just needs a resize and a bit of polishing, too in order to make the gunblade look less like a toy.

Seriously, XIV's version looks like a toy gunblade when you get a good look at it. It just doesn't have that nice metal look to it that Squall's gunblade has.

It is a bit smaller but the size doesn't make it look like a 'toy' to me. Maybe the texture could use some work but calling it a toy based on the size alone doesn't quite land for me.

I hope they'll also be able to adjust how we grab the handle of the blade. I'm happy that they put it into the game, but there are just a bunch of very minor flaws, that makes it not 100% satisfying to wield.