Any craft Repairs/Affxing - are you for or against ?

So I thought that was a fairly interesting question in the poll.

What are your opinion's on that, personally I am in favour of both being available to any craft as long as the level is high enough.

It would save a lot of hassle and more people would be likely to level just one craft than all of them.

I'm sure people who have all crafting classes @ 50 will not be in favour though lol.

I can't tell really tell...overall I think some dependancy on other people i.e. other crafts is "good" for the economy.

In a perfect world people would interact with one another by themselves, but usually in MMOs you have to "force" interaction in some ways.

I personally grind all crafts(that are not 50 already) out of the reason that I want to be self sufficient and when it comes to HQ crafting, I don't really "trust" anyone else besides me to do it as good as possible xD
Same goes for Affixing, considering Double/Triple etc melds.

I concur with it being available to any craft

As someone with all jobs at 50 I have no problem with the melding by any DOH at 50. The real cost on melds is having to make many many of the base product. Do you want a tripple meld hat? then u have to make around 40~50+ hats to meld with. Its also annoying to swap jobs every time I have to meld.

As for repairs I just wish the system was smart enough to see that "yes player A has the required DOH and lvl rank so he can repair the item" rather then having to job switch every time to do the repair. I wish we could get a generic key item such as a "Toolkit" that is used for all repairs and follows the current rules but allows you to repair w/o changing jobs and loosing your timers etc.

Its hard to find someone to attach materia imo. I said any class should be able to do it. As for repairs well i think its fine as is with specific classes, because we have an npc we can go to if we cant find someone.

kinda backwards I know but thats just my 2 gil :/

I said yes to the repairs, no to the affixing.

I have always been for any one being able to repair any thing with a higher botch rate for off class repairs.

I think they should keep repairing as-is, since you can easily get an NPC to do it anyway, and repair requests is a pretty cool feature. They don't need to "unrestrict" repairing any more than it already is.

Materia, however, is a different story. If they let all DoHs meld materia to anything as long as the DoH level was high enough, it'd be a really good thing.

-It'd make things more balanced for Goldsmithers, Alchemists, and Culinarians, who aren't able to meld materia as much as the other DoHs. These jobs currently aren't as viable as "main"/first DoH jobs since you can't use them for melding most of the time.

-Since there's no "melding requests" like there are repair requests, it really sucks to get all your equipment melded if you don't know anyone trustworthy with the right DoH job. You basically have to trade your equip and materia to someone else and I don't even know if people ever do this with strangers. I've never seen anyone /shouting for a melder in Ul'dah, for example.

-I really hate having to switch my DoH tool all the time when I'm melding several things that require different DoH jobs. It's such a chore of going in and out of laggy menus. Not my idea of fun.

Letting all DoHs meld would be a huge improvement imo.

for repairing i said it was fine as is.
for affixing, i said everyone should be able to do it. it really does become sort of a hassle.

my opinion might change if the following occurs:

some sort of passive system for affixing materia. (ie. I put the materials up in a bazaar like system, random crafters can affix. similar to the repair features now)

As an alchemist, I would like to (and it seems logical) that I be able to affix my own materia. Just my two cents. *shrug*

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Originally Posted by tachi

As for repairs I just wish the system was smart enough to see that "yes player A has the required DOH and lvl rank so he can repair the item" rather then having to job switch every time to do the repair.

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Yup this would be the best way to do repairs I agree.

It would be nice if you could repair even if you were on a battle/land class if you had the required skill in the appropriate DoH class.

And a one click to repair all would be nice.

As they are now, I'm for any for both.

Repairs use a magical item to fix gear and materia uses different tools entirely -- even though your character uses your class' tools the key item you get are the melding tools.

This would be a big boost for crafters for one main reason -- fewer total crafts in the market.

I know a lot of people level multiple crafts and DoLs to fix and meld their own gear. This then creates more competition across all DoH classes. Since repairs/melding aren't a source of profit -- since if they can't fix or meld it themselves most players have a friend who can for free or at cost -- it'd be better for the overall community to take a one-class-does-all aproach.

That way people won't feel slighted when they release good items dominated by a single class like the Ifrit weapons and goldsmithing.

It's a win/win for all those involved, even those who will inevitably come on and say something like "One class can fix/meld?!?! Slippery slope argument #345,567,344!!!!"

It wont make sense for any craft to repair any item

How can a cook kbnow how to repair armor?
How can a goldsmith know how to repair leather?


In the end it comes down to 1 fact we have already seen.

Battleclasses wanted their individuality, and they are getting it. With that in mind why would you want to take that away from crafters.

Any Crafting class being able to affix any materia and repair anything would just be the easy answer to "fixing" things. We have a Search function now so I wonder why we can't just use that to find people to affix things. The update has only just come out and I believe the search function is new so perhaps using this player poll now was a tad to early. Upon a quick search it does seem possible to find crafters easily. If anything I think crafters should make use of the search function, they set themselves to "seeking party" to let people know that they are looking for work and under comments they can put what there rates are for affixing gear. If you like the cost then you send them a tell and affix though if I"m not mistaken I believe you still have to trade gear to them so there is the whole trust thing.

Basically any class is the easy answer to fix things and what they really need to do is wait a bit longer after this update to see how things flesh out and people make use of the search function. Along with that they have to make an interface where one doesn't have to trade to a crafter in order to affix the item, once they do that I would imagine it would be easier to find people.

For repairs I don't care, either way is fine with me, repairs are accessable from any camp and town anyways, player repairs are clunky and annoying atm(changing class and getting every ability on cd etc).

For materia, I'm fine with either option as well, but I'd rather see materia being meldable within 10lvl range like repairs are and a bazaar type meld request implemented.

I woulda liked to see other more intressting questions involving crafting.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

It wont make sense for any craft to repair any item

How can a cook kbnow how to repair armor?
How can a goldsmith know how to repair leather?


In the end it comes down to 1 fact we have already seen.

Battleclasses wanted their individuality, and they are getting it. With that in mind why would you want to take that away from crafters.

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Because crafting is a pain, no doubt one day I will be just like you and have all my classes at 50 but for the time being I just want to click one button and have everything I have equipped repaired *by myself*

Of course as I said above I would be happy with the alternative of being able to repair on a battle class as long as you have the required craft levelled to fix the item.

i like the system the way it is. after all a blacksmith cant repair your cotton slacks with a hammer can he?

someone on here once said materia. is the end game of disciples of the hand and i feel that accurate. there's always people that will meld stuff for you. just stop being cheap with your rewards. disciples of the hand is all about making stuff to make money so pay them lol. 50k i'll meld anything you want. 5k hardly worth swapping my gear for.

I said no for both. If a Weaver can repair plate armor with a needle or a Culinarian can affix materia to a piece of cloth then why even require DoH classes to do those things in the first place? By that logic, the same can be done with a pickaxe, sword, or any other arm in the game.

Repairs are already available to everyone from NPCs, positioned at every aetheryte. Maybe they should just add repair NPCs outside of instances as well if people really have a problem with keeping their gear repaired.

And materia, I thought, was supposed to be a 3 disciple process, with each specific class playing its own role. This goes against that system and I'm not in favor of it. Besides, many people offer free melds if you know who to ask, myself included.

I mean what's next, every class is able to craft everything in the game? Where does it end? I find the most people that don't like the current system are those who don't like crafting to begin with. It's OK to not like crafting, totally understandable. But being able to fix and meld your own gear is part of the reward of leveling a specific class. People just want lazy/easy mode if you ask me.

i posted both are fine the way they are. you should have to be able to make an item to repair it.

i don't see me taking my suit to a jeweler to have them fix it. i have to take it to a clothing shop or seamstress.

the materia systrem, according to yoshi, was his idea of the crafting end game. i may hate the pure luck based system he put in place to attach it, but making it to where any class can affix it makes it even less useful.

to me both cases should have the class to make the item needed to do the work needed. if they want to make this change why not make it to where weavers can make the potions and food as well as the weapons. it's the same principle.

I am for it, I can't count how many times I have stood around hoping for someone with the right craft to respond to my shouts or wander by and fix my broken stuff when i have many friends with other varied crafts standing right next to me.

Lately they said they want to add a master rank to a craft where you can lvl only one craft in this rank, so if we reach the cap of lvl 50 and have only one craft to get, i think it's better to be able to repair with one job craft.

As for Affxing, i would like to use only one craft also.

I think repairs should be class specific but melding would be fine as an any class thing.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

It wont make sense for any craft to repair any item

How can a cook kbnow how to repair armor?
How can a goldsmith know how to repair leather?

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I know, right? Just the other day I broke my coffee table and ran down to the corner store to pick up some grade 3 dark matter but when I got back I realized I lent my hammer to my neighbor who is on vacation.

I was going to just use a banana but was all like "wait a second..."


A banana.


That's just silly.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

I know, right? Just the other day I broke my coffee table and ran down to the corner store to pick up some grade 3 dark matter but when I got back I realized I lent my hammer to my neighbor who is on vacation.

I was going to just use a banana but was all like "wait a second..."


A banana.


That's just silly.

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lol..

This made me smile.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

I know, right? Just the other day I broke my coffee table and ran down to the corner store to pick up some grade 3 dark matter but when I got back I realized I lent my hammer to my neighbor who is on vacation.

I was going to just use a banana but was all like "wait a second..."


A banana.


That's just silly.

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You have just won 500 internets sir.