Changes needed for AST

I’ll keep it short-

-Divination needs a 30y radius

-Play needs to properly queue, so I’m not mashing the f*** out of it to use a card

-Potency adjustments on all healing abilities or the return of healing potency buffs from each Sect

-Synastry and other needless nerfs to the job reverted

Sleeve Draw should give cards straight to Play to avoid wasting so much time drawing/playing cards while my tank dies.

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Originally Posted by BahamutxD

Sleeve Draw should give cards straight to Play to avoid wasting so much time drawing/playing cards while my tank dies.

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I agree, this one drives me nuts. Draw is on cooldown so I use Sleeve Draw, look down and see Draw is now off cooldown and it always throws me off because I have to take a second look to see if I hit something wrong only to remember you still need to use Draw.

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Originally Posted by IllyaPrisma

-Divination needs a 30y radius

-Play needs to properly queue, so I’m not mashing the f*** out of it to use a card

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This so much! Play just seems bugged really badly. It's not queuing at all. The divination range should just straight up be the old range of an aoe card play

And maybe lower the recast of divination

I’m so glad I’m not going crazy. I’m starting to get really tired of sitting looking like I’ve got my thumb up my ass while in reality I’m just mashing Play because my previous 3 attempts didn’t queue between skills.

Being a controller player I was already apprehensive over the single cards only change for 5.0. But with the small issues of Play being tedious to work with and sleeve draw meaning I have to get RSI just trying to flick between my party members to buff them, I’m starting to regret my choice in sticking with the class.

I tested out the newer SCH and it’s oGCDs are so much more powerful than AST and I’m starting to wonder if I should backtrack off AST now and finish story on SCH.

Even in dungeons I have to spend so much more time using GCD heals compared to SCH just to get by.

I really like the skill that allows me to put a free shield/regen on someone every 30seconds, that’s fun, but outside that the class feels so weak in both healing ability and damage buffing. I used to enjoy AST but slowly playing the class is just becoming a chore. :(

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And maybe lower the recast of divination

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this, what are they thinking a 180s cd for a 6% increase? i can understand if it 10 but 6?

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Originally Posted by Malin-HunnysMonsta

I tested out the newer SCH and it’s oGCDs are so much more powerful than AST and I’m starting to wonder if I should backtrack off AST now and finish story on SCH.

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I feel the same. I have all three healers at lvl 70. I just started playing Shadowbringers and my AST main is only 71 now. I'll get at least one other healer to the level I can do the first ShB dungeon and decide after that what I'll continue doing the MSQ with.

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Originally Posted by IllyaPrisma

I’ll keep it short-

-Divination needs a 30y radius

-Play needs to properly queue, so I’m not mashing the f*** out of it to use a card

-Potency adjustments on all healing abilities or the return of healing potency buffs from each Sect

-Synastry and other needless nerfs to the job reverted

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i agree with all except the potency one. I think its actually a good thing to have more incoming dmg and less ogcd healing. Its the only way to move out of the corner they designed themselves into. We basically have the healer equivalent of a dps killing everything in 1 hit. it was never fun and that what lead to the increase in healer dps so we could fight our own boredom. IMO gcd heals should be more potent than their ogcd equivalents so we can weave small heals during dps time (more on that later) and have our big gcd to deal with bigger hits.

now on to dps: i think it might be a good idea to increase the costs of heals even more. while giving a sort of mp recovery rotation to all healers. That way we would encourage the heal playstyle we allready have: DPS time, and a burt in heal, followed by another dps time. This could also be redone as some sort of recovery phase, like after a short sprint, when you need to catch your breath again for the next one.

To your other suggestions: 100% on board with those. especially the range increase on divination.

Absolutely agree for all of these. Something feels wrong when 3-4 of my healing skills hardly restore over 30-40% to a tank, who continues to have their HP plummet more when playing cards. Some potencies are just outright bad and none of AST's healing skills feel like they have any weight to them. Being able to Minor Arcana while Divination is on cooldown is nice, but the amount of time to crank out Divination for such a short duration of a buff is frustrating. I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought Play was very janky.

I agree. global cooldown healing spells feel particularly weak and don't get me started on colective uncounscious. I will probably find a more suitable to post my rant about that.

I understand they could've gone two ways to make the healers focus more on healing. Either increase the damage coming from the mobs / bosses or nerf heal potency. I understand that is the direction they want to go towards but something is terribly wrong when i feel i need to pop cooldows left right and center to try and keep up with the damage tanks are taking sometimes because my healing spells seem to be of no help.

Also can we have draw and play as the same button again?

Also please don't keep it short. Astro has way too many problems right now.

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Also can we have draw and play as the same button again?

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THIS, i dont get it, they rework all class to get rid of the button bloat, but now they give us 2 button where it could function with 1 button.

- increase overall healing potency, maybe not flat increase but something feel off with our heal now.
- divination should have lower cooldown, 180s for measly 6%? what a joke.
- sleeve draw should automatically draw card for you the moment you press it.
- celestial opposition cure potency should be higher, the regen took 2s before it kick and in a heat of battle that could be clutch or wipe moment.
- i take less potency if earthly star become 30s cooldown, many of boss fight require you to keep moving, and that mean away from earthly star area, wasted.

so many wrong with AST and so many miss opportunity, the new AST card have some potential to be complex yet fun card system. by putting a card seal combination alone, the enjoyment of card can be rise through the roof and they didnt do it. i mean something simple like this....

depend on your card seal, divination can has additional effect beside 6% increase damage.
3 same icon = 5% increase crit
all "blue" card icon = 5% increase skill speed
all "purple" card icon = 5% increase spell speed
2 blue/purple and 1 blue/purple = 5% increase def

and so on, the potential is there, cmon yoshi....

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Originally Posted by Schan

Also can we have draw and play as the same button again?

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Came to say the same. There is no reason for Play to even exist. None at all. Rework the mechanic in a way we can save that button.

We should start a list of things that are clearly made without any previous planification, design process or even testing.

In terms of healing I like where Astrologian is right now. I'd rather have developers rework the job's identity. So instead of tweaking numbers I believe they should first of all make the job fun again. Playing cards is so straight forward and boringly simple. "Give previousy utility/defensive based cards to ranged DPS, offensive based ones to melees. Convert duplicate seals to lord/lady".

Also I feel like having one or two AoE heals too many. I'm counting three abilities that all do almost the same thing: Collective Unconscious(weak HoT - so weak it could have been reduced to 10% damage mitigation). Celestial Opposition. Another weak AoE heal - yay. Horoscope - stronger, but still... an AoE heal.
Earthly Star is a prime example of how to really implement something interesting. In its base it IS another AoE heal, but a very flexible one that benefits thinking ahead and encounter knowledge.
But stripping Collective Unconscious of some of its HoT potency just to slap it on a 'reworked' Celestial Opposition is just being lazy in my eyes.

In 4.0 Sleeve Draw could take you around 3-5 seconds to fully use.

New Sleeve Draw may take up to 10 and you have a limit of 30 seconds to use it before it goes to waste.

Give the cards straight to Play (or Draw) or even better, just give us 3 different seals and let me burn every single card into minor arcana and save me from this boring mechanic of hunting for seals.

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Originally Posted by BahamutxD

In 4.0 Sleeve Draw could take you around 3-5 seconds to fully use.

New Sleeve Draw may take up to 10 and you have a limit of 30 seconds to use it before it goes to waste.

Give the cards straight to Play (or Draw) or even better, just give us 3 different seals and let me burn every single card into minor arcana and save me from this boring mechanic of hunting for seals.

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I had trouble with Sleeve Draw at first too! Then I realized I could just convert all of those cards to lord/lady and not use it for seal collecting at all.
Now on raid pulls I won't have that luxury sadly. Raid pulls are a completely different matter in itself though, since they will be largely dependant on luck. Not sleeve drawing the correct seals for Divination? Well there goes a huge chunk of raid DPS... at least we'll know who to blame for those 1% wipes then.

Well, there's this, at least-

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■ The following issues were addressed.
・The astrologian action "Play" could not be queued.

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