Regarding Character Creation on Congested Worlds

So up to this point I was led to believe that any characters created on a world after the first one didn't contribute to the over all world population because, for obvious reasons, you can only be online with one character at a time. Well I found out this morning that apparently is not the case since I couldn't create a new alt because Cactuar is full.

This sucks because I have two open character slots I was saving for a Viera and Hrothgar alt and had even paid to transfer an alt to another server to open one of those slots up.

Now I'm not going on an "OMGTHISGAMEISBROKENI'MUNSUBBINGUNTILIT'SFIXED" tirade as is custom when something like this comes up, just wanting to vent a little frustration because I was looking forward to having all my primary alts on the same server.

And to those who say "just transfer to a non-congested world": NO. I've been on Cactuar since ARR launched, I've invested way too much time and effort building up what I have here to just to throw it all away.

Yea my daughter wanted her own account, but ATM it won't let her make a character on the server I play on. So I told her she can play on a different server until she can make one on mine.

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Originally Posted by zylo1010

Yea my daughter wanted her own account, but ATM it won't let her make a character on the server I play on. So I told her she can play on a different server until she can make one on mine.

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A whole new account/character contributes to the total world population. I was referring to alts on a character already established in the world.

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Originally Posted by Joven

So up to this point I was led to believe that any characters created on a world after the first one didn't contribute to the over all world population because, for obvious reasons, you can only be online with one character at a time. Well I found out this morning that apparently is not the case since I couldn't create a new alt because Cactuar is full.

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Not sure what specifically led you to believe that. It's always been this way, though it was only really a problem for Balmung in the past. Once they locked it down as "congested", folks couldn't make RP alts anymore.

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Originally Posted by GomJabbar

Not sure what specifically led you to believe that. It's always been this way, though it was only really a problem for Balmung in the past. Once they locked it down as "congested", folks couldn't make RP alts anymore.

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It was something I read on here a long while back. Something about how your account was considered as one character regardless of how many alts you had, which is why they gave us 8 character slots to begin with. I mean, why even offer so many slots if we can't even utilize them?

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Originally Posted by Joven

So up to this point I was led to believe that any characters created on a world after the first one didn't contribute to the over all world population because, for obvious reasons, you can only be online with one character at a time. Well I found out this morning that apparently is not the case since I couldn't create a new alt because Cactuar is full.

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Those two things are not directly connected.
If a world is declared Congested you cannot create characters on it. Period. If the character would contribute to the overall population or not doesn't matter.
No new characters are allowed on Congested worlds. No exceptions.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Those two things are not directly connected.
If a world is declared Congested you cannot create characters on it. Period. If the character would contribute to the overall population or not doesn't matter.
No new characters are allowed on Congested worlds. No exceptions.

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The problem is when I checked about an hour ago ALL NA worlds are not accepting new characters. Makes things rough for current players but much worse New NA Players just joining the game find an impossible situation. (Caveat being I have not checked the Euro servers or Japanese ones)

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Those two things are not directly connected.
If a world is declared Congested you cannot create characters on it. Period. If the character would contribute to the overall population or not doesn't matter.
No new characters are allowed on Congested worlds. No exceptions.

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If an alt doesn't contribute to the congestion of a world then what's the point of denying those of us already on said world from creating another one?

Yeah, it stinks we cant create chars on aether right now, but thats mostly for launch stability. I expected absolute hellques, but even crashing every 15 minutes i didnt have any issues getting in. Just gotta be a little patient and wait for the opening rush to die down. Vent away tho

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Originally Posted by Joven

If an alt doesn't contribute to the congestion of a world then what's the point of denying those of us already on said world from creating another one?

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To make the rules simple to understand for one thing. Also to prevent people from doing sneaky stuff like creating an alt on a congested server and then transferring their old character to some other world.

Or perhaps the devs were just lazy and thought it was too much work to add an exception for alts.

I am with you Joven in thinking that your initial post is the way it was (or should be) since like you said, we can only play one toon at a time per account. With the way it currently stands, it almost seems like their database cannot hold any more records/objects. From a technical standpoint, this seems kind of odd and I would love to read a definitive answer as to why what you originally posted is not true. Does their database have a finite amount of primary keys without room for expansion? This congested worlds problem should have been solved long before even early release as its a no-brainer that the majority of people are going to want to try out the new races.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

To make the rules simple to understand for one thing. Also to prevent people from doing sneaky stuff like creating an alt on a congested server and then transferring their old character to some other world.

Or perhaps the devs were just lazy and thought it was too much work to add an exception for alts.

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I would say it seems to more of the latter and less of the former, but since we aren't allowed to criticize on here I'll just leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by Kilriven

Does their database have a finite amount of primary keys without room for expansion? This congested worlds problem should have been solved long before even early release as its a no-brainer that the majority of people are going to want to try out the new races.

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This is my thinking too. If a person having too many alts causes server crowding then why did they offer us so many character slots? Maybe I'll just wait like Dhaid said and see if I can't create one once the initial sperging dies down.

I just wanted to get out of Aether and go somewhere quieter, now I can't :(