Glamour restrictions??

Hello!

i hope i am posting in the correct forum,

Do you think SE will ever lift the glamour restrictions on classes/jobs for further personal experience/unique looks?

there are some great gear out there i would love to use for my PLD from other classes but even the glamour plate restricts it to DoW only.

thoughts?

Personally there are a lot of items that this shouldn't occur with but at the same time there are a lot that it could.

We have this discussion quite often. The tricky part is how to explain what we want to the devs without them taking it too far.

You have to be really careful not to say you want to remove "job restrictions" on gear. If you say this, they will skip ahead to "a black mage shouldn't be wielding an axe".

What we really should be asking for is for role restrictions to be lifted from non job-specific gear. For example, there are some heavy armors that would look really good on a healer designed after an "armored cleric" concept. Or Some leather harnesses that would look good on a mage. Maybe there are some shoes that you think would look cute with a particular skirt, but the shoes are striking only and the skirt is aiming only.

We need to be really clear that it's just these role restrictions that we want to lift. Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted.

Yup, don't use the word job at all when mentioning this. Every time they ask Yoshi P in an interview, they always say job gear glamour and he always says no because of that.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

We have this discussion quite often. The tricky part is how to explain what we want to the devs without them taking it too far.

You have to be really careful not to say you want to remove "job restrictions" on gear. If you say this, they will skip ahead to "a black mage shouldn't be wielding an axe".

What we really should be asking for is for role restrictions to be lifted from non job-specific gear. For example, there are some heavy armors that would look really good on a healer designed after an "armored cleric" concept. Or Some leather harnesses that would look good on a mage. Maybe there are some shoes that you think would look cute with a particular skirt, but the shoes are striking only and the skirt is aiming only.

We need to be really clear that it's just these role restrictions that we want to lift. Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted.

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I do totally agree on weapons/shields as such! sorry i should of worded that a bit better.

head/body/legs/feet as you suggested would create some amazing role play!

i was thinking maybe coding would take a lot of work to ensure each gear piece works with all classes/jobs when using actions?

I know that there's a pair of tank gloves (lv 32) that I'd love to mess around with on other roles, but can't for obvious reasons (NOT TANKS). And there's no gloves that are remotely close to them either let alone a standard version since its aetherial.

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Originally Posted by Foxkid

I know that there's a pair of tank gloves (lv 32) that I'd love to mess around with on other roles, but can't for obvious reasons (NOT TANKS). And there's no gloves that are remotely close to them either let alone a standard version since its aetherial.

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All aetherial gear is just ARR gear.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

We have this discussion quite often. The tricky part is how to explain what we want to the devs without them taking it too far.

You have to be really careful not to say you want to remove "job restrictions" on gear. If you say this, they will skip ahead to "a black mage shouldn't be wielding an axe".

What we really should be asking for is for role restrictions to be lifted from non job-specific gear. For example, there are some heavy armors that would look really good on a healer designed after an "armored cleric" concept. Or Some leather harnesses that would look good on a mage. Maybe there are some shoes that you think would look cute with a particular skirt, but the shoes are striking only and the skirt is aiming only.

We need to be really clear that it's just these role restrictions that we want to lift. Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted.

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I dont think so, please no.

The "tanks in bathsuit" already throw me out of the game's world. No more please.


Glamour should be job locked. I hope the majority agrees with my opinion

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Originally Posted by Inuk9

I dont think so, please no.

The "tanks in bathsuit" already throw me out of the game's world. No more please.


Glamour should be job locked. I hope the majority agrees with my opinion

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Originally Posted by Rongway

We have this discussion quite often. The tricky part is how to explain what we want to the devs without them taking it too far.

You have to be really careful not to say you want to remove "job restrictions" on gear. If you say this, they will skip ahead to "a black mage shouldn't be wielding an axe".

What we really should be asking for is for role restrictions to be lifted from non job-specific gear. For example, there are some heavy armors that would look really good on a healer designed after an "armored cleric" concept. Or Some leather harnesses that would look good on a mage. Maybe there are some shoes that you think would look cute with a particular skirt, but the shoes are striking only and the skirt is aiming only.

We need to be really clear that it's just these role restrictions that we want to lift. Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted.

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Yep, every player understand the question but the producer can't.

Maybe we just need someone better for the communication.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

We need to be really clear that it's just these role restrictions that we want to lift. Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted.

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Speak for yourself. Weapons should still be restricted - just because of how changing between classes/jobs work in FFXIV.

Other than that it is just plain silliness for there to be any restrictions on gear glamours. AF gear not excepted.

Of course, lifting restrictions on some gear is better than not lifting it on any.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Speak for yourself. Weapons should still be restricted - just because of how changing between classes/jobs work in FFXIV.

Other than that it is just plain silliness for there to be any restrictions on gear glamours. AF gear not excepted.

Of course, lifting restrictions on some gear is better than not lifting it on any.

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The person you quoted said that weapons should remain restricted. It's literally the second sentence, " Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted."

Eh, i choose to play as tank because they wearing heavy armor, gear - part of role same as weapons.
That's not more diversity, that's less role differences.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

The person you quoted said that weapons should remain restricted. It's literally the second sentence, " Job-specific equipment (weapons and AF gear) should stay restricted."

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MistakeNot isn't disagreeing with me about weapons, but about AF gear. And that's fine. Some people think all wearable gear (not weapons) should be unlocked. It's okay to have this opinion. It would be much more difficult to convince a dev to agree with this opinion, though. Arguing for role-free gear is a much more attainable goal, as the devs would be more likely to be swayed if we maintained that it's okay for AF gear to remain job locked.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

MistakeNot isn't disagreeing with me about weapons, but about AF gear. And that's fine. Some people think all wearable gear (not weapons) should be unlocked. It's okay to have this opinion. It would be much more difficult to convince a dev to agree with this opinion, though. Arguing for role-free gear is a much more attainable goal, as the devs would be more likely to be swayed if we maintained that it's okay for AF gear to remain job locked.

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Then they need to be clearer in the structure of their post because I had to scrutinise it for like five minutes to see how you arrived at your conclusion. Maybe by putting the part they're actually disagreeing with after the phrase signifying disagreement. "Speak for yourself, AF gear shouldn't be restricted" for instance, rather than "Speak for yourself, weapons should still be restricted. Line break. Oh, and AF gear shouldn't be restricted".

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

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All aetherial gear is just ARR gear.

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Duly noted, still having a hard time finding anything similar enough to said gloves for my classes to work with across the board, it bothers me heavily.

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Originally Posted by Malus_Darkblade

Hello!

i hope i am posting in the correct forum,

Do you think SE will ever lift the glamour restrictions on classes/jobs for further personal experience/unique looks?

there are some great gear out there i would love to use for my PLD from other classes but even the glamour plate restricts it to DoW only.

thoughts?

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I doubt it. Just as there are players who want to expand their options, there are other players who want their class/job to have a unique style identity.

Your best bet is to try to find similar items that don't have conflicting job restrictions.

Personally, I love to be able to use my level 50 Bard AF hat on other clases...

Honestly, outside of weapons and maybe certain job artifact gear, I see no reason why glamour should be so restricted as is anyway. Obviously keep the gear *equip* restrictions, we don't want pure chaos in what gear you can equip and who can roll need on what, but once it's placed into the glamour dresser and thus no longer have any impact on gameplay, it should have its restrictions lifted.

And the main reason why they should allow this? Because of all the silly glamours that already exist. Now, I'm not hating on bathing suits or pig costumes or the like, it's not my thing but I'm happy for other people to have the option, but it's a slap in the face to say that people are allowed to be tanks in bikinis, or moogle machinists with popguns, or swole namazu monks, but you're not allowed to be an armoured cleric, or a shinobi that specialises in glaives and "dancing" ninjitsu, or an armoured red "battle" mage.

There are so many cool possibilities you could have with looser glamour restrictions, but apparently we're only allowed to follow the styles Square lays out for us... except for when it's silly.