So with Defiance changed to not give bonus HP does WAR get a trait to still boost HP? Media tour videos show WAR with same HP as others as far as I can see.
WAR Same HP as Others
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06-09-2019, 06:51 AMCirdan-FaustWAR Same HP as Others
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06-09-2019, 06:57 AMshao32
WAR will have the same HP and the same 20% passive mitigation like the other tanks yes.
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06-09-2019, 07:12 AMCanadane
It’s the biggest disappointment of the expansion so far.
But there’s time for more. -
06-09-2019, 08:07 AMJeeqbit
A lot of WARs just never used the tank stance that gave them that extra health anyway.
They are still health-centric because of Thrill of Battle and gaining self-heals from attacks via Storm's Path and Nascent Flash.
They could alter WAR's trait to that but maybe it would make it harder to balance content correctly. SE will have a better idea of that than us. -
06-09-2019, 08:12 AMPraesul
% reduction was slightly stronger than a max HP and heal boost anyway, so other than maybe disappointing in losing some flavor, I'm not sure why people would care.
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06-09-2019, 08:39 AMWhyAmIHerecUz WaR uSeD tO bE tHe BuLkY tAnKQuote:
Originally Posted by Praesul
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06-09-2019, 09:07 AMAnger
I think WAR should have a passive called Thrill of Battle that raises their HP permanently by 10%.
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06-09-2019, 02:13 PMJojokomoko
Defiance effect has been merged with Thrill of battle instead
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06-09-2019, 02:48 PMIzsha
Defiance was merged into 20% dr as was all tank stances. ToB just absorbed convalescence.
Honestly, just for flavors sake i wish they had baked in the 20%dr to drk/pld and 25% hp and 25% healing to warrior as they are functionally identical. Even more so since they have retooled healing ogcd actions to scale with %healing buffs truly making a 25% hp/heal identical to 20% dr.
Its a missed opportunity for a rare case where there is no conflict between job flavor/identity and balance. Its a simple feature to include that adds to the class fantasy with zero balance repurcussions. Shame really. -
06-09-2019, 04:44 PMNyneSwordzNo only that, Defiance no longer gives bonus Parry based on gauge level. Deliverance no longer exists, so the bonus Crit based on gauge level is also gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cirdan-Faust
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06-10-2019, 12:43 AMJojokomokoDid they really state that those bonuses are gone in ShB? Considered we still got the beast gauge, we don't really know how it works yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NyneSwordz
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06-10-2019, 12:46 AMshao32except the toolkit misses that detail the crit/parry bonus from you gauge it's removed yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojokomoko
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06-10-2019, 02:55 AMFreyyyI believe this has been removed since SB. This thing only existed back when we had stacks instead of gauges.Quote:
Originally Posted by NyneSwordz
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06-10-2019, 03:09 AMKaliseNo. It's literally in the game right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
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06-10-2019, 03:22 AMDrayce1
This is nice. In my static ill be MT as paladin, and my OT is a War!
All is as it should be again. What a wonderful world! -
06-10-2019, 03:51 AMFreyyyOkay I don't know why I was pretty sure that this was removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalise
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06-10-2019, 07:27 AMSatarnExcept Thrill, free Equilibrium and especially Holmgang, still put WAR leagues above PLD in terms of MTing, while PLD still has way better OT options. You do you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drayce1
Have we actually seen the new Beast Gauge guide thing though? If crit bonus is just baked into gauge regardless of stance now, then it'd be natural to remove mention of it from Defiance tooltip, especially since gauge is no longer linked to stance i any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by shao32
Not saying it's still there, but I'd really like to see a ui confirmation, before I jump the gun on that and it seems none of the media-tour guests actually screenshotted it. -
06-10-2019, 07:35 AMMavriasi mean PLDs and DRKs didnt want to be in their tank stances much either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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06-10-2019, 07:46 AMEloahIf you think about it, that's a sad statement, considering it hasn't released yet. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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06-10-2019, 07:49 AMshao32as far i know we don't have any screenshot of the gauge info actually, most asumitions come since the info about the parry/crit is on the respectives stances and in the new defiance it's not, so idk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satarn
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06-11-2019, 12:06 AMBright-FlowerIf this is the biggest disappointment in 5.0 then we're looking at a really solid expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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06-11-2019, 08:01 AMZenkii
As WAR main I never used the extra HP so yeah. Makes no difference.
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06-11-2019, 09:35 AMInuk9but....but....the identity....Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenkii