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    Cirdan-Faust's Avatar
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    Beor Faust
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 80

    WAR Same HP as Others

    So with Defiance changed to not give bonus HP does WAR get a trait to still boost HP? Media tour videos show WAR with same HP as others as far as I can see.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    WAR will have the same HP and the same 20% passive mitigation like the other tanks yes.
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    King Canadane
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    Sage Lv 100
    It’s the biggest disappointment of the expansion so far.
    But there’s time for more.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    A lot of WARs just never used the tank stance that gave them that extra health anyway.

    They are still health-centric because of Thrill of Battle and gaining self-heals from attacks via Storm's Path and Nascent Flash.

    They could alter WAR's trait to that but maybe it would make it harder to balance content correctly. SE will have a better idea of that than us.
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    % reduction was slightly stronger than a max HP and heal boost anyway, so other than maybe disappointing in losing some flavor, I'm not sure why people would care.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Praesul View Post
    % reduction was slightly stronger than a max HP and heal boost anyway, so other than maybe disappointing in losing some flavor, I'm not sure why people would care.
    cUz WaR uSeD tO bE tHe BuLkY tAnK
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    Lazy Ale
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 30
    I think WAR should have a passive called Thrill of Battle that raises their HP permanently by 10%.
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    Kai Rangriz
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Defiance effect has been merged with Thrill of battle instead

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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Defiance was merged into 20% dr as was all tank stances. ToB just absorbed convalescence.

    Honestly, just for flavors sake i wish they had baked in the 20%dr to drk/pld and 25% hp and 25% healing to warrior as they are functionally identical. Even more so since they have retooled healing ogcd actions to scale with %healing buffs truly making a 25% hp/heal identical to 20% dr.

    Its a missed opportunity for a rare case where there is no conflict between job flavor/identity and balance. Its a simple feature to include that adds to the class fantasy with zero balance repurcussions. Shame really.
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cirdan-Faust View Post
    So with Defiance changed to not give bonus HP does WAR get a trait to still boost HP? Media tour videos show WAR with same HP as others as far as I can see.
    No only that, Defiance no longer gives bonus Parry based on gauge level. Deliverance no longer exists, so the bonus Crit based on gauge level is also gone.
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