So when 5.0 launches a bunch of skills will leave us, never to be used again... maybe. So the question is, what about the macros you had for those skills? Without the skill there is no reason for the macro. So what macros of yours will never see use again, once 5.0 releases.
For me, the two I'll miss the most are my Goad and my Mana Shift macros. They were beautiful and people loved them.
Goad: Hey <t>! Do I have to (Goad) you to attack <tt> some more?
So the text in combat would read something like: Hey Hien! Do I have to (Goad) you to attack Zenos some more?
Mana Shift: Hey <t>! Shut up, and take my (Mana Shift).
So the text in combat would read: Hey Thancred! Shut up and take my (Mana Shift).
These brought us such joy, once upon a time.
NUUUUU!!!! My Macro!
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06-09-2019, 02:27 AMEloahNUUUUU!!!! My Macro!
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06-09-2019, 02:39 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
I never used macros for battle skills or support skills. People ignore rez macros and use theirs anyway, so the point of that being a thing never works, especially when both healers and the smn hit the macro at the same time, all 3 blowing swiftcast.
As for defensive cool downs, it wasn't worth the button mashing to get them to work since macros don't queue (for things like hallowed) -
06-09-2019, 02:42 AMwereotter
I had a macro for Shadewalker, but no "say" to go with it.... honestly will be glad that's not something I have to pay attention to playing ninja anymore. Shadewalker wasn't too bad since you could use <tt> but smoke screen? I never use it because it required me to take my attention off the boss.
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06-09-2019, 02:45 AMCanadane
I don’t use any macros for battle related stuff. They were designed specifically to not be useful.
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06-09-2019, 02:48 AMReinfeldOff-topic rant incoming:Quote:
Originally Posted by wereotter
I understand that the devs wanted enmity-control to be one of the NIN gimmicks, but with how mind-numbingly easy enmity generation is in this game for tanks the only actual purposes of those skills is to take up space on the skill bar. -
06-09-2019, 02:57 AMAnselmet
Hey op, should do what I did and make a hotbar by accident dedicated to deleted skills. I cry every time I see ring of thorns.
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06-09-2019, 02:58 AMValkyrie_LennethIt was added because tanks were not in tank stance for most fights, thus not generating lots and lots of enmity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinfeld
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06-09-2019, 04:05 AMKalise
I only have one combat job related macro.
Which was MCH's "Piano Burst" rotation. You know, Reload > Split Shot > Rapid Fire > Wildfire > Slug Shot > Gauss Round > Split Shot > Reassemble > Clean Shot > Quick Reload > Slug Shot > Ricochet > Clean Shot
Since I'm lazy and given that said rotation was static and literally always used in that order every single time with no deviation.
But with no more reloading and no more fitting in the combo shots for Wildfire, this macro will no longer be useful.
Instead... I guess I'll have to make a new one that goes Wildfire > Overcharge > Heat Blast > Gauss Round > Heat Blast > Richochet > Heat Blast > Gauss Round > Heat Blast > Ricochet > Heat Blast > Gauss Round > Heat Blast > Ricochet
Aren't CD's that force you to spam 1 skill over and over and over and over again just the most interesting and fun things? /s -
06-09-2019, 04:09 AMVahlnir
I had a macro for DRG back in ARR (and I think some of HW) which let me power up my jump and use it. It saved time but sometimes it would backfire and use the wrong jump. I had 2 in that macro to save hotbar space. I haven't so much as touched a macro since switching to SAM and leveling other jobs, including DRG, which doesn't have that macro anymore. I think they are, for the most part, pointless, though announcing certain abilities can be pretty handy.They can also make for really irritating chat spams like a person I ran into earlier...I was just happy to get out of the instance and away from them. If people are going to RP while in a party, I really wish they would keep it confined to /echo...that way they can have whatever fun they're having and I don't have to listen to it. lol
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06-09-2019, 05:18 AMReinfeldWas that for Savage raids with people trying to squeeze out every last damage point? It only takes 1 or 2 tank stance enmity combos in most fights and you're set for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-09-2019, 05:21 AMEndeleon
Unfortunately we will still be plagued by res macros, which are more useless than roleplay macros.
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06-09-2019, 05:24 AMJollyy5
Man, I remember when I had a Raise macro back in ARR for about a week before I got rid of it for often burning my Swiftcast without the Raise...
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06-09-2019, 06:40 AMValkyrie_LennethMaybe if your dps are terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinfeld
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06-09-2019, 07:06 AMBonbori
The biggest casualties are probably going to be my Scholar macros. I attached Embrace to... um... nearly everything, combined Rouse and Whispering Dawn into one button (I'm actually happy this one is going away, there was never any reason to use Rouse without also popping WD) aaand... I think I had a Largesse + Fey Illumination macro at one point but I never used it. Using both at the same time is kinda wasteful, I can't think of any situation where that much healing would be needed all at one time.
For my DPS, I have cooldown notifications for Mana Shift and Refresh that will be going away. I'm kinda going to miss it, I liked helping my party recover from deaths or just keeping them topped off. It's always so satisfying when half the party is dead, healers are running on fumes, but then suddenly Refresh comes off cooldown and we're back in business.
I'm curious to see what the end of phase 1 of Ultima, the High Seraph is going to look like in Shadowbringers. Entire Alliances still semi-wipe during the mechanics-vomit bit and I'm pretty sure at least like 1 in 3 pulls is saved by RDMs and Bards/Machinists working overtime XD -
06-09-2019, 07:29 AMYllaniaI dont know, telling people who youre resing saves mp. Less chance of accidentally trying to raise the same person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Endeleon
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06-09-2019, 07:41 AMValkyrie_LennethExcept when everyone pushes the button at the same time. Which is usually what happens anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yllania
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06-09-2019, 07:48 AMYllaniaNot in my experience? Ive only done it once or twice, I appreciate if the other healer has a macro that says what they did so I can focus on other dead or dpsing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-09-2019, 08:33 AMEndeleonReally? Cause uh, usually by the time the other healer shouts out their passive aggressive garbage, I've already got the dead person swiftcast resed. Usually I find a res macro=mediocre healer who doesn't really watch the party list like they should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yllania
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06-09-2019, 08:59 AMTharnor
I mainly used combat macros for gcd clipping on classes like bard and drg. But then realized how terrible of an idea that was as time passed and committed to gaining the needed muscle memory. The closes thing I have to a combat macro now is just a focus command and alternate target functions on some abilities like shadowflare(which still messes up from time to time).
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06-09-2019, 01:14 PMYllania????? Since when is "Rasing name" passive aggressive garbage? How sensitive are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Endeleon
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06-09-2019, 01:15 PMValkyrie_LennethBecause macros are usually things like "You owe me 2600mp player name" or "why are you garbage player name, you are making me rez you" or "you fail at living player name, but i guess i can give you a second chance"Quote:
Originally Posted by Yllania
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06-09-2019, 01:19 PMYllaniaMost of the time for me its literally just telling me the name of who they are reviving. Ive ran into a couple thats anime bs but not enough to be "most" and say all healing macros are garbage that have no use. Most of the annoying macros I see are moogle meme ones that actually literally have no use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-09-2019, 02:05 PMReinfeld¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Point was that tanks have absurd enmity generation just on their own and the only thing a NIN dumping aggro on you does is save you a few GCD in tank stance to get the same effect. Hardly useful outside of (maybe) Savage raids with tight timers or some kind of interaction with adds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-10-2019, 01:16 AMEloahI just say "Don't worry <t>, time heals all wounds" if anyone gets the pun, kudos, lol. But it's nothing too obnoxious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-10-2019, 01:21 AMKurandoPerhaps it's just how you worded it, but Rouse hasn't effected WD for several patches now so technically that combo has already gone away. Embrace is still effected by Rouse though, for the time being...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonbori
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06-10-2019, 01:45 AMBonboriOh? When did that happen? I can't believe I missed that ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurando
Oh well, it won't be relevant in a few weeks. I'm going to miss most of the Scholar skills that are getting cut as well as manual Embrace control, but Rouse won't be one of them. Having 3 Largesses (one for me, one for Eos, one for the party) was just an itsy bit of an overkill. Nobody needs an esse that large. -
06-10-2019, 02:25 AMKurandoHmm I don't remember the exact patch, I'm thinking around 4.3 maybe but it's been a good few months (perhaps someone can confirm the extact patch when it changed). Although I still use that macro as well, but it's just for the CD these days seeing as they are both 60s so it frees up a hotbar space. Best to make the most of the actions while we still have them all before they are gone eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonbori
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06-10-2019, 02:39 AMCazzT
I only use macros for saying hi and bye and for fun times chat in alliance roulette.
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06-10-2019, 03:24 AMADarklore
I'm more upset that with the skills going away, so are their icons... and I tend to use some of those icons for various macros including gear/glamour swaps.