Preorder Aetherite earring - DPS only :(

Note I didn't do the preorder for the earring, and didn't even know what it was good for, but then I saw the 30% XP boost below 70, and looked more closely.
Unfortunately, it only works for DOW, DOM classes, which makes it useless for leveling my crafter / gatherer classes.
I wish they had made it usable for all jobs. If it did, I might actually have a chance of catching up in my craft leveling..

DoW and Dom isn't just dps, it's all battle jobs.

It's already super easy to level crafters, you get a ton of exp from leves

Why "DPS" only when tanks and healers can use it too?

If you're only worried about leveling, the moogle and namazu dailies will easily get you a level every day or two once you get to 50 and 60 respectively. Getting to 50 is rougher, since the ixal dailies are a lot rougher, but they're still basically free exp, and the Ala Mhigan earrings can help.

Well that's not DPS only then is it?
And yeah they generally don't promote gathering or crafting classes much. But catching up has never been easier, you shouldn't have much trouble doing so. You can do it almost entirely passively if you wanted.

Probably meant battle classes in general, not just DPS.

That said, it is a bit odd that the Aetheryte Earring is DoW/M only considering that the Ala Mhigan Earring is not.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Note I didn't do the preorder for the earring, and didn't even know what it was good for, but then I saw the 30% XP boost below 70, and looked more closely.
Unfortunately, it only works for DOW, DOM classes, which makes it useless for leveling my crafter / gatherer classes.
I wish they had made it usable for all jobs. If it did, I might actually have a chance of catching up in my craft leveling..

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It might be neat if it did apply to DoH/DoL classes, but really, the majority of your xp for both of those will come from Leves and/or turn ins to rowena, neither of which the earring would help you with anyway.

[QUOTE=Brightamethyst;5015216]Probably meant battle classes in general, not just DPS.

Yes.. Shouldn't have said DPS only, but then, tanking and healing don't exist for me so... :)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Why "DPS" only when tanks and healers can use it too?

If you're only worried about leveling, the moogle and namazu dailies will easily get you a level every day or two once you get to 50 and 60 respectively. Getting to 50 is rougher, since the ixal dailies are a lot rougher, but they're still basically free exp, and the Ala Mhigan earrings can help.

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Ever heard of blue dps and green dps? :p

Lulz

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

Probably meant battle classes in general, not just DPS.

That said, it is a bit odd that the Aetheryte Earring is DoW/M only considering that the Ala Mhigan Earring is not.

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Hopefully it is an oversight because that is pretty silly.

DOM/W classes are the bread and butter of the game, and aren't as quick and easy to level as DOH/L classes.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Hopefully it is an oversight because that is pretty silly.

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Well, like someone else mentioned, the best way to level those up are leves and collectables.
The earrings won't boost that exp.

2.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: Here’s blue and red scrips

3.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: Here’s Prudent Touch

4.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: im done, you’re on your own

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

I miss the old days of FFXIV crafting and gathering (like 3.1) where nobody expected free hand outs to level up crafters and gatherers. Now, it’s like if they add the slightest inconvenience, such as harder difficulty, there’s nothing but complaints. Unfortunately, SE listens to these crafter complaints when they really shouldn’t.

crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF

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Crafting was never hard. It was only tedious and time consuming.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Crafting was never hard. It was only tedious and time consuming.

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Crafting is tedious and time consuming now, and it’ll remain that way. I honestly don’t understand why there are people who think economically valuable jobs should be a breeze to get into?

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

2.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: Here’s blue and red scrips

3.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: Here’s Prudent Touch

4.x
crAFtiNg iS toO hARd pls neRF
Yoshida: im done, you’re on your own

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No one here said crafting is hard and to nerf it lmao, why are you making up stuff to complain at?

leveling crafting jobs is easy though
leves + beast tribes make it very passive and cheap to do

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

Crafting is tedious and time consuming now, and it’ll remain that way. I honestly don’t understand why there are people who think economically valuable jobs should be a breeze to get into?

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Only tedious if you don't enjoy it, which if you don't enjoy it I'm not sure why someone would level them to begin with, but each their own.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Only tedious if you don't enjoy it, which if you don't enjoy it I'm not sure why someone would level them to begin with, but each their own.

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Self repairs for one, and the ability to make whatever furniture you may want for another. I don't craft to sell, but I keep them at max level because it makes my life easier.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Only tedious if you don't enjoy it, which if you don't enjoy it I'm not sure why someone would level them to begin with, but each their own.

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Beast tribes. The ixal, moogles, and namazu require a crafter, so if you want those rewards, you'll get crafting. It's the only reason I leveled one.

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

I honestly don’t understand why there are people who think economically valuable jobs should be a breeze to get into?

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Because they have economic incentives to suggest that.

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

Crafting is tedious and time consuming now, and it’ll remain that way. I honestly don’t understand why there are people who think economically valuable jobs should be a breeze to get into?

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I don't really craft. I just level one crafter for beast tribe quests and I level my BTN for treasure maps. Yet I view my retainers and various items that new patches/expansions bring as way more economically valuable.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Note I didn't do the preorder for the earring, and didn't even know what it was good for, but then I saw the 30% XP boost below 70, and looked more closely.
Unfortunately, it only works for DOW, DOM classes, which makes it useless for leveling my crafter / gatherer classes.
I wish they had made it usable for all jobs. If it did, I might actually have a chance of catching up in my craft leveling..

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Yea I only realized myself after I got it that I couldn't use it to level my crafters T_T, oh well cant have everything.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Crafting was never hard. It was only tedious and time consuming.

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The quests are too hard. I couldn't complete the level 53 quest on my culinarian until I reached level 55, and bought nearly a full set of item level 100 gear from the moogle tribe vendor. It should be possible to complete the HQ crafting job quests with the gear you got from previous quests without 30 attempts at making the items with full HQ mats and finally getting one to go through at 20%.
Now, I just just ignore these quests until I level up enough to do them.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

The quests are too hard. I couldn't complete the level 53 quest on my culinarian until I reached level 55, and bought nearly a full set of item level 100 gear from the moogle tribe vendor. It should be possible to complete the HQ crafting job quests with the gear you got from previous quests without 30 attempts at making the items with full HQ mats and finally getting one to go through at 20%.
Now, I just just ignore these quests until I level up enough to do them.

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Um... this is just objectively, mathematically untrue.

You can usually guarantee 100% HQ chance of any craft required by your job quests even without melded HQ gear, but if you are struggling, it might help a little to craft a few pieces of level-appropriate HQ gear and meld some materia onto it. Materia IVs or even IIIs can be melded and pulled out with 100% chance so you can reuse them throughout your whole HW level range and even into early levels of Stormblood. On top of that, a full set of HQ materials literally does half the work for you. All Quality gains past that have increasing returns so quality points translate to increasingly higher percentages. But that shouldn't matter much because filling the remaining half takes very little effort, especially past level 50 when you have a huge variety of cross-class abilities at your disposal.
For example, have you tried doing Inner Quiet + Comfort Zone + Steady Hand II + Hasty Touch spam + Byregot's Brow/Miracle? It's relatively efficient and CP-cheap until you unlock Prudent Touch at 66, at which point you marry Prudent Touch and live happily ever after.

If the best you can get despite using HQ materials is 20%, you may be doing something wrong, or you may be slightly undergeared for your level. If it's the former, and you do not quite understand what to do, I recommend trying out this little utility. Provide it with your stats, tell it what you intend to craft and it will come up with a... usually somewhat reliable sequence that you can reproduce in your game step by step and maybe pick up a few tricks.

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Originally Posted by Bonbori

For example, have you tried doing Inner Quiet + Comfort Zone + Steady Hand II + Hasty Touch spam + Byregot's Brow/Miracle? It's relatively efficient and CP-cheap until you unlock Prudent Touch at 66, at which point you marry Prudent Touch and live happily ever after.

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Let's see, I usually do Waste Not, Steady Hand, Inner Quiet (and Advanced Touch if a good or excellent pops), then enough synths to bring progress within one careful synth II of complete, Then I go on with the touches, and try to fit in a Byregot's Blessing before the CP is gone.
If I have a 70 or 80 durability, I'll usually refresh SH with Steady Hand II so I can continue with Hasty Touch after the CP is gone.
(I most always run out of CP before durability.)
(I don't have Comfort Zone yet, my alch is only 36, but I'm leveling it in beast tribes now.)

I've tried the crafting simulator, on a level 58 recipe, it gave me about 18% max. On a level 54 (beet soup), 0% start quality, it got 100% in 17 steps, (I've never had anything take that many steps.) I need to make the soup for the next class quest, so I'll try it once I get the materials.

Edit: Tried the crafting simulator, with half HQ materials. Ran out of CP at around 20% each time, even though the sim said I should have 100% at the end. (Made it about 1/2 through the sequence) Tried several times, and finally got one to go HQ at 21%
One big problem with the simulator is that it completely ignores condition events.