5.0 Pet Changes

In the live letter they said pets would not longer be able to be targeted by enemies and players. What about the chocobo companion?

They were exclusively referring to Summoner "pets" also known as egi.

Edit: Whoops. Forgot SCH existed. This applies to SCH as well.

They said the SCH pet as well falls under this, the fairy will not be targetable (except for directing it to do stuff). The Chocobo essentially functions as an AI party member, it's not a pet.

Does that mean that Topaz Carbuncle and Titan-egi are useless now? I used to summon these to help out lowbies when the tank leaves early.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Does that mean that Topaz Carbuncle and Titan are useless now? I used to summon these to help out lowbies when the tank leaves early.

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It was implied that they will have new abilities, probably giving the summoner defensive buffs/healing so they can still solo as effectively as before

But.... Titan-chan was my distraction so I could run away from high leveled mobs ;-;

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Originally Posted by noxen

But.... Titan-chan was my distraction so I could run away from high leveled mobs ;-;

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You monster!

A noble sacrifice has to be made! And Titan-chan is the most noble Egi there is uwu

Chocobo's aren't pets, they're companions.

This change was purely for SMN/SCH/MCH (Also, if you're optimistic, BST)

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Does that mean that Topaz Carbuncle and Titan-egi are useless now? I used to summon these to help out lowbies when the tank leaves early.

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They mentioned that Tank pets will be changed. Likely to be something that can still be useful for survival, possibly actually allowing Topaz Carbuncle/Titan-Egi to be used in Duties without being as big of a DPS loss (If at all) and provide SMN some much needed survivability (Given that Physick is garbage and Drain is being removed)

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Originally Posted by noxen

A noble sacrifice has to be made! And Titan-chan is the most noble Egi there is uwu

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#nochickennuggetleftbehind

As for on-topic: the changes look good. But I am wondering how Titan will be handled. It wouldn't really feel the same if Titan was just sitting on the sideline cheering the WoL on. Look at me Titan... I'm the tank now!

I remember using Titan to solo various FATEs and unsynced AAR Trials when I was going through the game for the first time. It felt so satisfying!

But as soon as Demi-Bahamut came online, and I actually learned something resembling a Summoner rotation, I quickly realised how... out of place Titan really was in the SMN kit. It's too squishy to tank anything that might require tanking, it can't seem to hold aggro even against its own summoner, leading to a lot of ping-ponging, and it basically locks you out of using Bahamut, because amongst the many things no Summoner wants during their burst phase, losing their tank is pretty high up on the list.

So honestly I think this change is for the better. Pets-treated-as-characters are probably some kind holdover from the FFXI days, or something, that the devs tried to fit into AAR at the same time as they were reworking it into a modern MMO, but could never reconcile the two objectives. My guess is that after three expansions (counting AAR where Arcanist was first added) worth of iteration and trying to make pets work in various disjointed ways (egis, demis, proc-batteries, support-bots), SE probably came to the conclusion that it was about time to pick one consistent direction and stick to it. At first glance, it seems that they've chosen to capitalise on the Demi mechanics.

And personally I'm really excited for what it means not only for Summoners but the game as a whole! I find it very interesting that DRK and MCH are suddenly also getting their own pets after such a long time of Yoshi expressing adamant dislike for pet classes. Perhaps if this works out, it might open doors for future pet classes after all?

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Does that mean that Topaz Carbuncle and Titan-egi are useless now? I used to summon these to help out lowbies when the tank leaves early.

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"Now"? I'm confused.

I hope we can still target out egis, or else I wont be able to /pet my carbuncle, and that's unacceptable!

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Does that mean that Topaz Carbuncle and Titan-egi are useless now? I used to summon these to help out lowbies when the tank leaves early.

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They will have a new function as an attack-type egi. In the Live Letter, Titan-egi's special ability was referred to as "Earthen Armor," possibly being some kind of defensive cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Len

Titan-egi's special ability was referred to as "Earthen Armor," possibly being some kind of defensive cooldown.

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I speculate this will give SMN their own version of Manaward, could be just for themselves or for the party but we'll see!

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Originally Posted by Kurando

I speculate this will give SMN their own version of Manaward, could be just for themselves or for the party but we'll see!

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What if it's...the return of Stoneskin! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Len

What if it's...the return of Stoneskin! :cool:

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*White Mage has left the channel*

Titan-Egi/ Topaz- Carby was my tank when I was leveling from 10-70. I remember using the pet as a tank alot when doing FATES. I wonder what this means for Summoner and Arcanist, while the ARR content is easy, monsters in Heavensward and Stormblood dont die as fast.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Titan-Egi/ Topaz- Carby was my tank when I was leveling from 10-70. I remember using the pet as a tank alot when doing FATES. I wonder what this means for Summoner and Arcanist, while the ARR content is easy, monsters in Heavensward and Stormblood dont die as fast.

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That's a point, a number of the Arcanist quest relied on Topaz Carbuncle tanking, did they not? Same with some quest instances involving Alphinaud and his Carbuncle... I guess NPC Carbuncles can still play by old rules while ours change?

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Originally Posted by Nalien

That's a point, a number of the Arcanist quest relied on Topaz Carbuncle tanking, did they not? Same with some quest instances involving Alphinaud and his Carbuncle... I guess NPC Carbuncles can still play by old rules while ours change?

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Indeed. Atleast Summoners can use Chocobo as a tank after they reach level 30. I we should be getting more information tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Len

They will have a new function as an attack-type egi. In the Live Letter, Titan-egi's special ability was referred to as "Earthen Armor," possibly being some kind of defensive cooldown.

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They actually said that is the pre 5.0 ability and it is and that pet hotbars are removing and coming to player actions as group action for the 3 different egis to share. I'd doubt it'll work the same way, as a defensive cooldown with what they said in the live letter.

Well, we know what this means for SCHs. XD No more Fairy pulls and Fairy's accidently waking up the dragon(hopefully).

https://i.redd.it/nr8i14p1ysf21.png

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Originally Posted by Nalien

That's a point, a number of the Arcanist quest relied on Topaz Carbuncle tanking, did they not? Same with some quest instances involving Alphinaud and his Carbuncle... I guess NPC Carbuncles can still play by old rules while ours change?

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The arcanist and summoner or Scholar quests are going to be no more. There will be role related quests to be done at around 50 or so I think, but there are going to be no more individual job quests.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

The arcanist and summoner or Scholar quests are going to be no more. There will be role related quests to be done at around 50 or so I think, but there are going to be no more individual job quests.

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Role quests are a lvl70-80 thing. Old job quests aren't going away.