Competing with bots...

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05-19-2019, 12:53 PM
mjorge1991

Competing with bots...

Hello guys,

This is not a post to complain about bots that spam click on placard. I just want to know if there is any way i could make my clicking faster. By that i mean either setting macros on my mouse razer naga or any little bit that could make it faster for me to click on it. I have lost already three houses to bots. I know it might not make a difference. Just looking to find something that might make my life easier.

Thank you.
05-19-2019, 02:05 PM
ern815

I was just thinking how do people know whether it is a player or a bot thats clicking on the placard?
05-19-2019, 02:25 PM
mjorge1991

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Originally Posted by ern815

I was just thinking how do people know whether it is a player or a bot thats clicking on the placard?

Usually they will be AFK and they will stay much longer after the property has been sold. Their character will click on placard attempt to buy and then look away.
05-19-2019, 03:04 PM
Blue_Myu

Quote:

Originally Posted by ern815

I was just thinking how do people know whether it is a player or a bot thats clicking on the placard?

There is a script that's an open secret people can download and run that automates the clicking process.

I had a friend use it to get his house because a lalafel we were both competing with earlier admitted to using it for over 20 hours.
I will not name and shame them, but they shared me the code and said how stupidly easy it was.
TBH if you know BASIC, you can reprogram the code so that not even FF could tell you were using it to buy the house.

That's how messed up this system is.
05-19-2019, 06:50 PM
supergiz

Pretty sure setting up macros on your mouse is also not allowed, regardless of how undetectable that would be.

So basically at this point with the housing system you are either spending up to 30 plus hours glued to your PC clicking on a sign while peeing in a bottle and pooping in a sock. All the while sleep deprived.

That or luck out after emergency maintenance and find one that's open. Or be on a low population server.
05-19-2019, 09:37 PM
Numenor1379

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Originally Posted by supergiz

Pretty sure setting up macros on your mouse is also not allowed, regardless of how undetectable that would be.

So basically at this point with the housing system you are either spending up to 30 plus hours glued to your PC clicking on a sign while peeing in a bottle and pooping in a sock. All the while sleep deprived.

That or luck out after emergency maintenance and find one that's open. Or be on a low population server.

Or you use a script to automate the idiotic system we have now.
05-21-2019, 05:40 AM
Blue_Myu

Quote:

Originally Posted by supergiz

Pretty sure setting up macros on your mouse is also not allowed, regardless of how undetectable that would be.

So basically at this point with the housing system you are either spending up to 30 plus hours glued to your PC clicking on a sign while peeing in a bottle and pooping in a sock. All the while sleep deprived.

That or luck out after emergency maintenance and find one that's open. Or be on a low population server.

Technically? Yes it wouldn't be allowed by just about every standard of the game. That's why I don't use it, as tempted as I am. It was just something a friend of mine showed me and used themselves to buy their house. It's what I've seen others do.

The script is so simplistic and just requires a tweek of code and it will suddenly look much more human-like in behavior to the point where automated systems could not pick it up.

I just think it's stupid with how easy they made it to game the system. Worse yet, it feels almost required unless you want to sit at a computer for up to 22 hours (I've heard anyways.)
05-23-2019, 01:39 PM
Mist_16_reporting_in

Gotta love how some of you encourage the use of automation on the official forums. Amazing.
05-23-2019, 02:21 PM
Blue_Myu

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Originally Posted by Mist_16_reporting_in

Gotta love how some of you encourage the use of automation on the official forums. Amazing.

Name a way someone can currently get a house on a populated server without waiting for up to 22 hours competing with random people for the entire duration, including that one that walks in and takes it because you had to go to the bathroom.

Is botting the right answer? Obviously not, it's against the TOS, but what is someone to do if they want a house and want to, say, get this really weird thing called sleep?
05-23-2019, 03:00 PM
Mist_16_reporting_in

Breaking news, you can purchase an FC house off someone for ~15m. 15m is what people paid for small FC houses back in the days anyway so it's not like you're being ripped off considering it is the smart thing to do, unless you really don't care about wasting your free time.
05-23-2019, 03:08 PM
xJimmehx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mist_16_reporting_in

Breaking news, you can purchase an FC house off someone for ~15m. 15m is what people paid for small FC houses back in the days anyway so it's not like you're being ripped off considering it is the smart thing to do, unless you really don't care about wasting your free time.

That (Selling houses) is against the ToS. You can be banned for it.
05-24-2019, 12:52 PM
GU099

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Myu

Name a way someone can currently get a house on a populated server without waiting for up to 22 hours competing with random people for the entire duration, including that one that walks in and takes it because you had to go to the bathroom.

Is botting the right answer? Obviously not, it's against the TOS, but what is someone to do if they want a house and want to, say, get this really weird thing called sleep?

Bruh you should see how many houses go up for sale on servers like balmung, cactuar, gilgamesh, etc everyday throughout the day. Houses moving in and out all week for the right price.
05-24-2019, 04:57 PM
Blue_Myu

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Originally Posted by GU099

Bruh you should see how many houses go up for sale on servers like balmung, cactuar, gilgamesh, etc everyday throughout the day. Houses moving in and out all week for the right price.

I've seen the houses on Cactaur. I've been tempted to migrate, but I give the same excuse as so many others have. Friends.

"Well you're giving up a house for friends" some might say.

...to which I counter, why must it be that way in the first place?
05-25-2019, 05:08 AM
Mist_16_reporting_in

Quote:

Originally Posted by xJimmehx

That (Selling houses) is against the ToS. You can be banned for it.

Here is the ToS you speak of. Take not the last time it was updated was 2013. That's 2.0 era for you. Housing wasn't available back then.

This is what you end up with when you search for these words:

https://i.imgur.com/qKdDtml.png
https://i.imgur.com/sx9aSZ7.png
https://i.imgur.com/DxxncC7.png

You people need to start getting your information right :rolleyes:
05-25-2019, 08:29 AM
GU099

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Myu

I've seen the houses on Cactaur. I've been tempted to migrate, but I give the same excuse as so many others have. Friends.

"Well you're giving up a house for friends" some might say.

...to which I counter, why must it be that way in the first place?

You have server travel now. It's only saying goodbye if you leave the data center. You wouldn't be losing anything.:D
05-25-2019, 08:42 AM
Blue_Myu

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Originally Posted by GU099

You have server travel now. It's only saying goodbye if you leave the data center. You wouldn't be losing anything.:D

The datacenter that I am on has almost all housing filled up all the time, at least if the Census forum has anything to go by.

It's the newest datacenter that has houses open.
05-28-2019, 04:14 PM
van_arn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mist_16_reporting_in

Gotta love how some of you encourage the use of automation on the official forums. Amazing.

Square is the one encouraging automation here, make no mistake.
05-28-2019, 04:19 PM
xJimmehx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mist_16_reporting_in

Here is the ToS you speak of. Take not the last time it was updated was 2013. That's 2.0 era for you. Housing wasn't available back then.

This is what you end up with when you search for these words:

https://i.imgur.com/qKdDtml.png
https://i.imgur.com/sx9aSZ7.png
https://i.imgur.com/DxxncC7.png

You people need to start getting your information right :rolleyes:

I dont care what it says. People have been reported and banned because of it. Roll youre eyes all you want.

Edit: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-this-thread
Even though it seems to say selling for a high amount of gil is punishable offense. I know of people who have gotten banned for trying to sell homes at the original price. Keep searching. You will find it. It seems like half the devs "dont care" and "half do." I wouldn't risk it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beckett

You can no longer flip houses unless you're selling to someone that doesn't understand the way the new timers work. The seller can in no way guarantee that the buyer will actually be able to purchase the plot the relinquish, since it won't be available for sale until a random timer finishes.

Even if you dont get banned. If theres a random timer on the demo.. \o/

Edit2:
-Free Company Housing was released in Patch 2.1.
-Personal Rooms for Free Company houses were released in Patch 2.3.
-Personal Housing was introduced in Patch 2.38.
05-31-2019, 11:12 AM
Drkdays

Breaking news, selling houses is also against ToS, is it not?