sometimes you think you might want to fanta but you don't want to plop down money for it. i propose once a month you be able to acquire 1 (one) trial fantasia that would basically give you a short period of time (3 hours? 6 hours?) to try your new appearance out and see if you *really* want to fanta or not.
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05-08-2019, 08:32 AMgrinkdaboyTrial Fantasia
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05-08-2019, 08:52 AMNuna
Just make an alt to try out a new look and delete the char when you're done?
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05-08-2019, 08:53 AMSated
I'd be happy being able to preview the changes on my character like at the aesthetician, instead of having to get naked and log out. I feel like it should be done through the bell anyway, and have it note on the UI which changes cost gil and which would require a fantasia to complete.
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05-08-2019, 09:00 AMvan_arn
Create new character on different server.
Save appearance.
Behold, your trial fantasia. -
05-08-2019, 09:43 AMgrinkdaboybut what about your glamour?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuna
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05-08-2019, 09:50 AMFredco191Depending on your outfits you’ll be able to try them on via the market boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinkdaboy
But considering that you won’t be able to test every emote out on a new character to check the animations, a trial Fantasia would be good. -
05-08-2019, 11:00 AMYamimarik
I'd love for a trial Fantasia, even if it had a super strict cool-down and even if it was for only 30mins-1hr.
To those saying "Make an alt." An alt does not grant you access to all the various hairstyles you have collected over the course of your play time. You don't have access to see different emotes you have collected being used by various races. Even just swapping from one gender to another, there are glamours you can trade into the Calamity Salvager (or the NPC near it) that allows you to have the other gendered clothing. There are many variables and factors in switching over race/genders when using Fantasia. And a lot of it you can't really participate with when using alt. characters. -
05-08-2019, 02:15 PMHakaseNyan
I'd prefer changing Fantasia to allow you up to 24 hours to make as many changes as you want.
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05-08-2019, 02:55 PMHalivel
Or, maybe instead of actual fantasia, making something like aesthetician, but without possibility to apply changes? Make it a little instance where you can try all your hairs and check emotes, with option to try on clothes as well. Probably too hard and not worth to implement, though..
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05-08-2019, 08:09 PMFhaerron
Nope.
Considering how many people wasting fantasia's for just a skin color or eye color and then imediatly using another one again because they don't like it, only to use one yet again because it doesn't match with the glamour plate 3 ...
SE makes way to much profit out of it.
I guess I am the weird one to think this behaviour of certain people is weird.
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05-08-2019, 08:12 PMTheodricTo be fair, you can't test out every hairstyle or emote that way. You can only do so on your main character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuna
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05-08-2019, 08:47 PMLaylaTsarra
Fantasia should have a 24 hour cool down where you can go back and make changes if you're not happy. The idea that it's a one time thing whether you're happy with your skin color, voice, facial options and so on and can't change them without another fantasia is ridiculous. After the cool down you're stuck with what you got but making that possible would be well received in my opinion.
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05-08-2019, 08:49 PMBurningskull
I wish we got one free Fantasia every year we stay subbed for.
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05-08-2019, 08:53 PMSeraphorBuy a Retainer Fantasia. You can dress them in any of your gear (that they can also equip) to try out glamours, and I expect they can use any hairstyles you've unlocked too, although I haven't tested that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theodric
Then, you can see what they look like in the world, or at least in cities and housing wards, instead of the awful character creator lighting.
I just wish Shadowbringers came with a free fantasia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
I'd have expected it to be listed in the pre-order or game description if it did, but nada.
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05-08-2019, 08:55 PMHalivelI'm actually surprised that there is no Fantasia with Shadowbringers expansion. It was a bonus item with Heavensward, and it's a bit weird that new expansion, while having new races, doesn't have additional Fantasia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
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05-08-2019, 08:58 PMHalivelThey can't. Also you will be unable to test emotes and movings. But for testing glamour - yes, it's an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
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05-08-2019, 08:59 PMSeraphorThat seems like a pointless omittance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halivel
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05-08-2019, 09:31 PMBurningskull
Only the collector's edition came with a free fantasia in Heavensward. The standard edition didn't.
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05-08-2019, 10:29 PMDevonEllwoodMaybe like in the inn rooms?Quote:
Originally Posted by Halivel
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05-09-2019, 12:40 AMHighMarshal
I would rather have character creation lighting that is actually what we have in game so that my color choices turn out the way I want them to.
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05-09-2019, 02:18 AMAmalahRoseI've lost count of how many times I've done that. Then when I think I'm happy, I've ended up going to places with some really ugly lighting conditions in the Heavensward areas and beyond, and started to regret my choice. It happened to me yesterday, during a thunderstorm in Rhalger's Reach. Some of the lighting in newer areas is super fugly at times and unfortunately a newly created alt cannot go there to test it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuna
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05-09-2019, 02:42 AMIscahI'm not sure why you need to worry about basing your character design on how they might look in one specific weather condition in a specific zone. You can never control for that. It might affect every single character equally.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmalahRose
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05-09-2019, 02:51 AMAmalahRoseTo me it matters. I end up in multiple terrible looking zones everyday and they bother me greatly, so I like to minimize my annoyance if I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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05-09-2019, 04:16 AMwereotterIn general that's a good baseline... but it doesn't help if you also want to see how gear from old quest rewards, raids, high end tomestones, or items in your armoire might look on your character after you've made it. It would be nice to even be able to keep gear equipped while your reskinning your character, and if you're wearing something the new one can't wear because of gender lock, the item just goes invisible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuna
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05-09-2019, 04:57 AMDPZ2Might be worth a shot. Everything I end up doing in-game appears to be either (1) when it is raining or (2) at night or (3) both.Quote:
Originally Posted by HighMarshal
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05-09-2019, 05:21 PMMrKusakabeHah! I know what you mean! I will never understand how people have no principles or taste that settles. The only things I changed was my hair and eye colour when I slowly transisted from archer to black mage. I put my wild, blonde hair into the Papalymo hairdo and my eyes became red. Later, as my Lalafell aged a bit, I added the white portions to the hair to reflect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fhaerron
Before I left for my 4-year hiatus, I was in charge of keeping our Lalafell-only linkshell "clean" by browsing Lodestone mugshots and remove Non-Lalafell. It was baffling how many people changed back and forth, sometimes so quick that I removed them because the Lodestone did not refresh their mugshots as quickly as they used Phantasias.
I am always a midget. Yordles, Lalafell, Asura, Mascu, Goblin. Why would I suddenly want to turn into something else and pay for that?!
Absolutely strange. These are probably the same people that want to bail from contracts or pricey purchases. As I work in retail, it just makes my eyes roll when they return perfectly fine, un-opened appliances because "they changed their mind".....
Sincerely,
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05-09-2019, 05:43 PMAlphaFox
I know I plan to use a Fantasia (still have the one I got from Heavensward) but I do agree its a bit of greedy to not offer 1 as they know a fair amount of people will swap to one of the two new races, even if its only temporarily.
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05-09-2019, 06:54 PMSeseraI changed my character lightning to 100 and gamma to 60 a month ago and since I haven't been bothered by my character's look. Might want to give it a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmalahRose
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05-09-2019, 09:08 PMHalivelI can't say for all, but I used fantasia few times and can explain for myself. 1st time I used fantasia I did it to change my Miqo'te face, because wanted to make him older than he was in the start. But I changed races later, too. Sometimes you just want to try something fresh. Sometimes you start to wonder what if other race will suit you better with emotes and poses. I played as male Elezen for a short time and as male Au Ra for one year, but in the end returned to male Miqo'te because he suits me more. I tried to change my character to female twice, cause I'm female irl, but... in the end... just no. Maybe because I didn't play with female characters in MMO for 10 years, or maybe because of something else, I can't play them here, so I gave up on this idea. For now I don't plan use fantasia again because there is nothing what suits me more than male Miqo'te, but if suddenly in future they will add something and it will touch me in a way "yes, this is me" - I will use fantasia then.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKusakabe