Do vegans IRL eat non-vegan food in FF XIV?

Honest question. If someone identifies as a vegetarian/vegan in real life, would they refuse to eat animal products in XIV too? Would they be able to level culinarian at all? What about gear that appears to be made out of leather?

I ask because I have a vegan friend I'm trying to recruit to the game and wasn't sure if this would be an issue for them.

My opinion is this:

If someone can't separate fantasy from reality then I really don't know what to tell them. One is not like the other. I'm not a vegan in real life and I eat in real life...but I hardly ever eat in FF XIV.

In Role Play they might avoid meat dishes; but in Final Fantasy, they do not have a choice. When your best raid food has meat in it, are you really going to go to a lesser dish to avoid fictional meat? That would be ridiculous.

Vegans don't have to worry. They have lalas to feed on.

I am not a vegan, but I know the point of veganism is not using anything that was made by animal suffering (I won't say anything more about THAT because... yeah). As long as they're not hardcore-rp'ing their veganism there should be no problem since no actual animals are being harmed, only a bunch of data in the shape of one. Whether that counts as supporting animal cruelty or something, I don't know...

Hey, wasn't you the guy who also thought the servers will go down until we get male Viera?

Not sure if trolling or...

Whatever. Veganism is in general a protest against livestock farming. But there are no real animals in FF14, so no animals come to harm. The meat is just pixels, like everything else here. When your friend has a problem with "eating" pixel meat, then what would he do when he has to kill some animals for a quest? Or people? Well, I guess it's okay to kill the animals, since you hunt them down in the wild instead of putting them into a tiny box where they have to live their entire life under horrible conditions...

Do you guys remember the quest where you had to kill some Chocobos? :O

I imagine it could be said something like as a male do you refuse to play a female, or a female play a male, or if you're not a killer do you mind playing as a hitman in... Hitman?

They should, probably, be okay :3. Just don't show them the shark-fin soup :P.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I remember that thread!

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Just don't show them the shark-fin soup :P.

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I remember that thread!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

but I hardly ever eat in FF XIV.

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But you need to eat to do big damage.

I’m vegan, have been for eight years. The ethical position of veganism is to avoid harming, killing or otherwise exploiting animals for human purposes. There are no real animals in ff14. Only code. Therefore no animals are being harmed.

Honestly, if they really manage to have issue with it, then killing all the digital animals is probably the bigger concern.

But they shouldn’t. Because it’s just code.

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Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm

But you need to eat to do big damage.

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Not really. I do just fine.

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Originally Posted by RubixCube

I’m vegan, have been for eight years. The ethical position of veganism is to avoid harming, killing or otherwise exploiting animals for human purposes. There are no real animals in ff14. Only code. Therefore no animals are being harmed.

Honestly, if they really manage to have issue with it, then killing all the digital animals is probably the bigger concern.

But they shouldn’t. Because it’s just code.

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Bravo, not all hope has been lost you can tell the difference from real and not real, I started to believe that nobody could tell the difference anymore.

People keep mixing fictional and real life together and its becoming a super huge problem now days.

The food effect rarely make the difference between the clearing and not outside patch week. To make food better it would need to be part of the meta 8 weeks after a patch. And at that point who is using food in pugs

Eorzea people also have options to choose vegemeat, soymilk, and fake leather.

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

The food effect rarely make the difference between the clearing and not outside patch week. To make food better it would need to be part of the meta 8 weeks after a patch. And at that point who is using food in pugs

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Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by RubixCube

There are no real animals in ff14. Only code. Therefore no animals are being harmed.

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It's highly likely that the computer that runs the code has non-vegan parts in it though; in the glues and plastics, and gelatin is often used in metal processing for batteries :/

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

The food effect rarely make the difference between the clearing and not outside patch week. To make food better it would need to be part of the meta 8 weeks after a patch. And at that point who is using food in pugs

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Not true at all, I've lived plenty of AoEs with 1-2k HP, that HP came from food. I've seen plenty of 1-2% enrages that could have been avoided if everyone had food. You're assuming people will play perfectly, but that's not how raids go for the majority of the playerbase.

Depends OP, I'm I allowed to wish for a girlfriend on these forums?

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Honest question. If someone identifies as a vegetarian/vegan in real life, would they refuse to eat animal products in XIV too? Would they be able to level culinarian at all? What about gear that appears to be made out of leather?

I ask because I have a vegan friend I'm trying to recruit to the game and wasn't sure if this would be an issue for them.

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Why would you even care about such useless subject?

Sorry didn't meant to be disrespectful if you want tell your vegan friend that the game platform works over a code source that give the world this shape but the animal NPCs do not represent the real animals they are just based on the real animals forms so is as if she/he will be hunting a representation of a non existing animal, the only that literally represent real life species are the minions or mounts.

Unlike some other MMO FFXIV does not have the system where your character has to eat/drink to stabilize their character HP bar so your friend doesn't have to worry if he/she feeds his character or not.

I don't have Vegan powers. :(

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

And at that point who is using food in pugs

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Uhm, I do. And see people who use it quite often.

Game meat does not contain meat. It is made of pixels. Animals are also pixels. Your character is also pixels.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

It's highly likely that the computer that runs the code has non-vegan parts in it though; in the glues and plastics, and gelatin is often used in metal processing for batteries :/

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That’s true, and there tends to be discussion on vegan forums about this and how to deal with hidden products. Unfortunately, in modern society, the use of animal products is pervasive. Animal products are used in everything from construction to the making of some sugar. The stance of veganism is to minimise harm as much as possible. I can’t avoid computers. Not only do I use one for work but nearly every thing relies on them nowadays. Trains, public utilities, shop tills... it’s simply impossible to avoid it. However, I can avoid killing and eating animals, exploiting them for bodily functions (dairy), using them for my clothing (fur, silk, wool) and otherwise avoid supporting or purchasing things that include animal products, where possible. By doing that, I still have a significant impact. And I think the rise of vegan products and the growing support for it reflects that.

My point to op still stands though, because if they avoid the use of computers, they can’t play ff to start with. Let alone worry about its code.

I've been vegan for years now. In-game meat, fur, animal products etc don't bother me.
It's a video game, and has Zero bearing on real life. If any vegan refused to play games/watch movies that had anything that could be considered "non-vegan" then they wouldn't have very much entertainment to consume.
Plus, I'm vegan, but my character isn't nessisarily.