https://m.imgur.com/fNZjzxH
In game, they look absolutely nothing like this..
How come Miqotes/In-game models don’t look this good?
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04-03-2019, 03:28 AMCraftOsHow come Miqotes/In-game models don’t look this good?
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04-03-2019, 03:30 AMShougun
Was going to come in with "Because they're not Hrothgar" but then I saw it's art and now I can't choose how to respond. >:(
What is it in the art that you see that isn't something a miqote can/can't do in game? -
04-03-2019, 03:49 AMMsQi
Not sure what you are expecting.
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04-03-2019, 03:52 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
Ahh yes, 2d art is definitely replicatable in a 3d game.
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04-03-2019, 03:55 AMTheodric
It's all subjective, I suppose. I'm not a huge fan of Miqo'te to begin with, though I'd say they look better in-game than in the seasonal event artwork - mostly because the seasonal event artwork has a habit of putting characters in weird poses that just look uncomfortable to be in.
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04-03-2019, 04:00 AMCraftOs
Oh, I’m sorry. All I mean is that the art doesn’t look very similar to the game models, face-wise. That face art looks more like out of something from black desert online in my opinion.
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04-03-2019, 04:07 AMMsQiSo, more human? Stylistic preference?Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftOs
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04-03-2019, 04:11 AMEfryePromotional artwork is very rarely comparable to the in-game art style, in my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftOs
I have to agree though, to a certain degree. Most female Miqo'te faces don't look very appealing to me either. In fact, most of XIV's female faces in general don't look appealing to me. -
04-03-2019, 04:16 AMCraftOsYeah haha, I’m a fan of how black desert models their characters! It’s so strange how SE’s big titles like FFXV look similar to that art style look, but FFXIV doesn’t do it. Hopefully in the next FF mmo (maybe XVI?) it’ll be like that more.Quote:
Originally Posted by MsQi
I totally agree. Unfortunately though, I don’t see SE changing this game’s graphics very much, even after PS5 comes out. Yoshi and his team just don’t seem that interested. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Efrye
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04-03-2019, 04:20 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
I'm not a fan of the black desert faces. They look like they tried to be too real, and it just looks like... Fakey, to me.
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04-03-2019, 04:24 AMSigma-AstraI'm not entirely sure why you'd expect hand-drawn art and a 3D model to look exactly the same when they're using different mediums to work with and thus, have different limitations on what can or can't be done...Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftOs
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04-03-2019, 04:26 AMVahlnir
I would love to see certain races look like some official art or fan art but...for the most part it's not exactly reasonable. We are comparing apples to oranges here.
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04-03-2019, 04:58 AMRecaldy
Look up Star Ocean 4's 3D models versus their anime art portraits. Going from anime to 3D doesn't look too great...unless its GranBlue.
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04-03-2019, 05:06 AMValkyrie_Lenneth4s faces weren't that bad.. 5 tho....Quote:
Originally Posted by Recaldy
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04-03-2019, 09:01 AMSated
I like the art more too, but it's a lot easier to make adjustments to art than models.
The miqo'te in the art looks older than the models, and is much more shapely.
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04-03-2019, 10:52 AMEnlaIt's the eyes and symmetry. The faces look /too/ nice while straddling the line of hyper-realism which is what triggers the uncanny valley effect. The eyes don't help either. They're not bad but there's a level of blankness to them that just enhances that feeling. It's actually why I prefer FF14's models. They straddle stylism and realism quite well, which helps them side step those very issues because it isn't making our stupid brains try and play 4D chess against themselves in an attempt to reconcile the lack of errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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04-03-2019, 11:04 AMDuskaneI mean it is just not with ff14 styleQuote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...JO8blkRLbvWu63 -
04-03-2019, 11:09 AMAristotle
It's more accurate to say that the artwork you linked is off-model compared to the in-game characters.
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04-03-2019, 12:59 PMTsukino
They invite guest artists to do the event art usually, though I don't recognize that N.M signature on this one.
Elezen in game wish they looked this good:
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04-03-2019, 01:26 PMEnlahttps://i.imgur.com/pIsbnVl.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino
Excuse you. We're perfect the way we are, giraffe necks and all. D:< -
04-04-2019, 08:50 PMGulaTales has done it perfectly in every one of their 3D games. Especially Vesperia. Xillia onwards still has a good style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
http://oi65.tinypic.com/1620boz.jpg -
04-04-2019, 09:50 PMFriske
The art I've seen through this thread so far are mostly stylised, anime influenced pieces of art that wouldn't even fit FF14's current art style. The closest they've come to that style for races are through Lalafells, but they've made them a distinct race with their own lore, and even those don't even look heavily chibified. I'm sure the artists all have a consistent direction for how the characters should look ingame, but when it comes to official art, they're allowed to add a little bit of their own style and flair to the piece. It varies on the artist, but big anime eyes, long flowing glossy hair, glamourous figures are probably all drawn and used as inspiration, but they wouldn't be accurately depicted in the game.
Here's how much FF14 art varies between each other
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04-04-2019, 10:34 PMGula
Especially for cats and lizards, I find that some artists aren't really considering what they look like in game and are doing their own thing. I don't mean that in a negative sense, just that they just aren't following the limitations of in game options. Something about the eyes and face shape in the Hatching art that looks her look more mature or older than what people can make in engine. Roe on the other hand, when we do get some attention, are spot on.
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04-04-2019, 10:36 PMLacan
Unpopular opinion, but I don't really think that art looks that great. I wish Yoshida would come back.
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04-04-2019, 10:45 PMIscahThat looks like a phenomenally uncomfortable position to be in.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftOs
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04-04-2019, 10:53 PMAramina
While the art is ok as far as art goes. I do not not not not want my character to look like that.
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04-04-2019, 11:00 PMJandorJust looks like she's leaning on a table to me :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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04-04-2019, 11:11 PMIscahHer waist looks really unnaturally bent. She isn't just leaning forward, she's doubled over at the hips and then curving upwards again at the waist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jandor
...seriously, I just tried it to see how you'd get into that position. No way that's "just leaning on a table". It actually hurts. -
04-05-2019, 12:36 AMGula
Its the artist forsaking comfort for a cute way to lean over a table. She looks like the way pin up girls pose.
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04-05-2019, 12:42 AMCanadane
The seasonal artwork has always been a bit more... interesting than the ingame models.
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04-05-2019, 12:44 AMJandorI don't know, doesn't look that bad to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
Her top seems to fan out quite a bit near her waist, seems normal enough to me when that's factored in though. /shrug -
04-05-2019, 01:58 AMShougun
Just because we're commenting on her position, I think the tail pushing her clothing up makes her butt look higher and more unnatural than it is.. I think if you took out the ruffle in the clothes and the tail lifting it a bit that then it would look more normal (still a bit arch backed but nothing too weird- imo).
On top of having a tail and clothes pushing things out, we have it's the whole cat theme so it would make sense to build in a light arch in pose (since that's a stereotypical cat trademark, the whole curvy thing).
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Originally Posted by Canadane
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/..._v66SCU0M4.png :3 -
04-05-2019, 02:44 AMCanadane
I’m very certain one or two people at SE has a thing for legs when doing artwork.
I’m okay with this.